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Indeed, that would be better, I tend to waste time on trying to leave feedback in vain, when it's been a while since a "10-days-later feedback" suddenly pops up, especially if it's a regular customer who ordered recently, and I think it's a new feedback, while it was one from 10 days ago...

Are you sure about this? I think you can still respond to the feedback that the customer left on your profile, just not leave a feedback on the customer's profile. I have the feeling that I have missed leaving feedback myself in a few cases over the years, when there was too much going on, but could still leave a response to the feedback I got, when it auto-popped up after the 10 days.

Definitely. And, since it doesn't count towards response rate, there should be some easily visible reminder like that red clock symbol on those conversations, it's too easy to not notice that there are still messages that you didn't "really" respond to, as it is. I turned mine off, after a few instances where it had kicked in, due to the above, and also, because it's really hard to write up a single reply that's suitable as first response to anything you get, while still being kind of meaningful. So far, Quick Responses, or simply waiting until I can respond in person, serve me better.

Real one is actually really easy here, you just put a "no ads" sticker on your postbox, and Abracadabra, only bills in the mail henceforth ... -_- Yes. I've also sent support some ideas for how to reduce the spam, when it really blew up, and while they replied that they are awesome, they also replied along the lines of basically, "if your profile is great, you'll get spam, we can't keep them from spamming you, although some sellers aren't allowed to spam". (Don't ask me, why *some* sellers, I didn't bother digging deeper, probably just some typo.) Try, "Everyone else.", to a higher or lower degree, depending on category, profile, etc. Fiverr is trying their best, I guess, and lately, often, once I get to click spam messages, they are already gone, or that's because other people are faster with reporting them. In any case, I'd recommend preparing a few Quick Responses to use for every spam scenario to securely keep up your response rate, send that first, then click Spam or Report, depending, anf forget about it. But it is super annoying, granted, even with QR, it steals our time, bit by bit.

I don't quite get the difference between Quick Responses and this Insta Reply beta: Does this mean that the Insta Response will be sent automatically, when a person messages? If so, you really can only say "Hello", as anything else might sound stupid, depending on what the person actually wrote. It also would seem a bit dangerous, as it doesn't count as a reply for the Response Rate, depending on how it will look in the chat window, as you may wrongly think you already sent a reply to that message, when you peek at your chat window. But I guess, hope, that the notification and pink dot and everything won't be affected by that Insta Response, or will it... anyone tried it out already and can say more? And will it be automatically sent to everyone, including existing customers? That would be weird, too. And if not – where is the different to using Quick Responses...?

From what a customer told me, yes. I have only cancelled one order myself as a buyer, and that was one of the seller never delivered situations, with that auto-1*star-feedback from Fiverr in my name, and I don't think I got an option to leave private feedback there, but that makes sense, of course, in that special constellation. That, I don't know. If the user didn't get banned, Fiverr might consider them okay, after all, and then, they'd not really have reason to disregard the negative feedback, "suspicious" isn't "guilty". But if they cancelled it due to that reason, that might contain not sending out the private feedback form. Not sure what if they'd already have left the private feedback, I guess it depends on how the system works, private feedbacks may get cancelled along with the order, or not.

Unfortunately, that sounds rather probable. Misreading of Gigs as BRs by new users is no new thing, but with BR gone, it makes sense that it would only increase, as Gigs now are the only thing visible to them now, so they'll be even more prone to misread them as BRs, and those who are aware that they aren't, might still think hopping on the "ask other sellers to 'share' their orders" train will get them somewhere.

Wouldn't a sleazy competitor who wants to leave a bad private review just order the cheapest Basic Gig in an unsuspicious way, though, so you'd never know? Maybe some kind of pay it forward act, or a YT person looking for reactions would do a "just send a random pic", or a seller starting out and wanting to experience the ordering process from the other side, but doesn't really need anything specific. But, could still be a competitor move, I tend to believe that no matter how improbable, suspicious, or pain stupid it is, it can happen here (elsewhere, too, of course).

There are no auto orders, it's always a person who orders your Gig, but you probably mean that someone ordered your Gig without sending a message first and chatting with you, and did not send any requirements. (If someone ordered and did send you what you'd need to do the job that you say you will do in your Gig, then you can't "remove" the order, you can ask the person to cancel via the Resolution Center.) If the order is still in the Incomplete Status, i.e., the buyer did not sent requirements and the clock isn't ticking, you can cancel the order without an impact on your Order Completion Rate, once a week has passed. Or you can remind them to send the requirements, while you're waiting for that week to pass, who knows, maybe they will. You will find all the rules you might ever need in Fiverr's rule books: https://www.fiverr.com/support/seller https://www.fiverr.com/terms_of_service https://www.fiverr.com/content/payments-terms-and-conditions https://www.fiverr.com/privacy-policy https://www.fiverr.com/community/standards https://www.fiverr.com/cp/shutterstock-terms-of-service https://www.fiverr.com/business/terms_of_service https://www.fiverr.com/intellectual-property Happy reading.

From around 7 years of Fiverr forum experience, I think that most persons who don't have anything additional to say, will still add a reply. That someone doesn't have anything to say, typically doesn't mean that they won't say anything, not just on the FF 😉 But a few more, including the shocked face, would come in handy, there are lots of us who asked only semi-jokingly for other reaction emoji in the one or other topic... also, it's 6 already, so, since we're over the magic number 5 anyway, a few more wouldn't hurt, and usually, people will tend to towards the same one(s), so, even if it were 9 instead of 6, it might still not be too crowded in the phone app view (although the current number of 6 may have been found the max for that reason...).

So they are not just fake writers, but fake readers too? Amazing!

I got mine tested and one pair of "real" glasses at the optician, which I use at home, and a few at the drugstore for €3 a pop, to have in the coat pocket or bag for outside. I do prefer the "real" ones for when I read a book, but don't want to carry them around and maybe damage or lose them just to decipher the fine print on food packaging or such on the go, or in case I have to read and sign something. The cheap ones are pretty good, too, the difference is there but not as earth shattering as the price difference would suggest, and they certainly are perfectly fine for shorter reading. I'd still recommend one "real" pair, though, for people who read "real" books for more than a few minutes in one go, or need them to work (luckily, I don't need them to work, thanks to a big external monitor).

Logging in this morning: 2 briefs = 2 Telegram scam messages = 100% spam. 😐 Yesterday, it was 100% "I don't offer this service" (not at all, not even vaguely), although there may have been a Telegram scam message thrown in there too, I don't remember, it's hard to say, as I get those both in Briefs and Messages. AI, you need to step up your game, or I won't send you a Christmas card this year.

Oh, I know, a Ghibli creation, Howl's Floating Prison, wasn't it! 😉

Hm. Not sure about that. I get loads of them, including in Briefs. Might depend on category, country, or whatever else. But yes, hit the Report button, preferably, or the app's Block button when you get so many that you sometimes want to use the phone app and not log into your pc just to press Spam or Report. I really hope this Telegram storm will end, some day, I don't want to start a collection of "creative spellings of Telegram", after all, but reply to actual clients or leads, and do my work, after all. 😑

Well, I did convert quite a few BRs to orders, and still went through them from time to time, but zero so far through Briefs, because briefs almost exclusively are for things I clearly don't offer, or super vague (and most probably spam/scam, in the end), or super unrealistic/unreasonable, just like BRs. And BR was "less intrusive", I could go and browse when I wanted, while Briefs send notifications (about things I clearly don't offer), including about briefs with Telegram spam, by the way, but the % of spam probably was higher in BR, that's right. If BR worked well for some sellers and buyers (as one wrote above), it might be just fine to keep both, but I don't know how much manual interference, peoplepower, etc. is needed, and Fiverr probably has data, vision, and whatever else is needed to handle this the best way possible, and hopefully, Briefs will evolve to something that's more useful than BR to everyone. So far, though, surprising as it may be, I actually have to say that BR, with all its negatives, has been more useful to me. Maybe, hopefully, it's just a question of fine-tuning and time until Briefs will work well for everyone/all categories.

For anyone whose attention span isn't long enough to follow the more entertaining posts but wants to know what is going on (in about half of all forum threads), I recommend referring back to the first comment in this thread, as seen above, which already covers it quite perfectly, and minimistically, even poetically-haikuesque. Too many posts contain too little information and too much heartbreak too* help. *yes, I know, too little proper spelling, too, but little to looked so lost in all the too's company, that I took pity and compromised my sense of spelling for its sake

Just? Just?! You're soooo well ahead of the curve with that alone already! 😉

I could swear I remember those 3 questions having been a topic already. Doesn't matter much, either way, if nothing comes up with search, at least not easily, I tried searching as well, maybe it's too buried, unsearchable, or old, or we're searching not well enough, I was just wondering if it's really something new. But maybe I just mixed something up, or had a prophetic dream 🙂

I bet you they are, I'd certainly read it once, twice, or thrice. And sounds like high time for Fiverr 5.0; just skip the 4, as it's two years already, and the 4 is an unlucky number in some countries, anyway. But I understand your reservations, getting told you're gate-keeping in exchange for sharing observations, and conclusions, and adding actual content and lively discussions to the forum, is a bad deal.

Hm, I'm pretty sure we've discussed this on the forum before, anyone? Or I may have answered those when I bought a Gig myself. Maybe it's random, or they do it by rota, like towards the end of a year, or every x years or so, it might be data for their communication about current trends, or for trend prediction.

Only if that information is necessary to get the job done, and only on the order page, though, not in the chat, which means you'd have to place an order first, before you can obtain a sellers personal information which is needed to do the job (an example being you obtaining a seller's email, so you can add them to some platform you do your projects on, or giving the seller your info that you want them to design a calling card with, etc., not a seller's ID card). What kind of average order amount are we talking about here?

Exactly. And even if this weren't against Fiverr's terms (ask support to get a definitive answer), you know, I'm pretty sure that the sellers who would oblige wouldn't be the ones you'd want to work with. The most probable thing that will happen if you ask sellers who are actually worth hiring, is that you'll get reported and blocked, IMO. Maybe you'd score a few who are very desperate, naive, don't know Fiverr's terms, and aren't able to get hired without jumping through random not-even-buyer-yet's hoops. Yeah, I'm not happy about that either, and it's certainly worth a discussion, that I'd love to see with Fiverr staff involvement, and you can only hope that at least basic security management is in place, so that the fewest possible number of people could get their hands on the fewest possible data needed, however, a platform management policing its own platform is a completely different thing from what OP is asking about. I do understand your wish for more security, though, OP, but this isn't the way to go about it.

Don't give anyone your ID, unless it's Fiverr, during their ID verification process. Don't give anyone photos, unless your Gig is about that, or maybe about being a fashion model or something of that kind (but even then, there should be photos in your Gigs, and if they want specific ones, they should pay for them, obviously; if you want to gift photos to someone, think of your mom, she'll be happy and won't do bad things with them, apart from showing them to everyone she knows). They might want to set up a little account or two somewhere with you data and photos, and scam people, rather using your good name and trustworthy smile than theirs. I would report them to Fiverr, it's way too suspicious, and in the improbable case that it's nothing nefarious, they can explain to Fiverr then why they are asking people on their platform for their IDs and photos.

Yes, they were! I even had to turn off the lights and hide when the bell rang with an ominous urgency, and I realized in horror (appropriately) that it's the last of October, and it can't be anyone else than children asking for treats, because I have no friends, and fiends wouldn't ring the bell at such an ungodly time. And I had been too busy to notice it's Halloween, or to go to my favourite food haunt to buy sweets. I also didn't have any left, I ate everything, because, too busy, and because strawberry Pocky goes too well with coffee. However, you demand painted faces, you get a painted face, it's just not from this year sadly, this was in 2018, pre-Covid, and luckily, I had just remembered to take at least one pic in the hallway, before heading out, as I always forget to take pics, once outside and having fun scaring people. What I obviously hadn't remembered, was where the hll I'd put that blue lipstick. I was an evil mermaid, or a water witch, or a kappa, or something. Ok. Enough fun. Back to work. And it's a holiday here today, where I am, even. Boohoo. 👻And you, did you paint your face, or dress as... a barista? Coffee bean? Frappuccimoccalatteconpannacontodowithtuttifruttisauceventi to really scare people?