sijozed Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 I was away for the longer weekend and Fiverr had taken my money and paid it to the contractor without my permissions. The reason quoted was that THREE DAYS no communication had occurred. FIVERR TOOK MONEY FROM ME WITHOUT MY PERMISSION. Does anyone else think this is theft? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catwriter Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 It’s not theft. As stated in Fiverr’s Terms of Service, if the buyer does nothing for 3 days after the seller delivers, the order will be automatically marked as complete. When you created your account, you had to check the box stating that you have read the terms and that you accept them.Anyway, the seller doesn’t have your money yet. Sellers have to wait for 2 weeks after the order was marked as complete to be able to withdraw their funds. If the seller didn’t deliver as advertised, you still have time to complain to Customer Support. Or, you can message your seller and ask them to modify the order is something isn’t right.Here are the terms that you have accepted when you created your account:https://www.fiverr.com/terms_of_serviceIf you wish to contact Customer Support, you can submit a ticket to them here: https://fiverr.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/requests/new Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misscrystal Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 In addition to what catwriter said, was there a reason you think he should not be paid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sijozed Posted February 19, 2018 Author Share Posted February 19, 2018 It’s not theft. As stated in Fiverr’s Terms of Service, if the buyer does nothing for 3 days after the seller delivers, the order will be automatically marked as complete. When you created your account, you had to check the box stating that you have read the terms and that you accept them.Anyway, the seller doesn’t have your money yet. Sellers have to wait for 2 weeks after the order was marked as complete to be able to withdraw their funds. If the seller didn’t deliver as advertised, you still have time to complain to Customer Support. Or, you can message your seller and ask them to modify the order is something isn’t right.Here are the terms that you have accepted when you created your account:https://www.fiverr.com/terms_of_serviceIf you wish to contact Customer Support, you can submit a ticket to them here: https://fiverr.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/requests/newDear Cat Writer,You feel that some 25 pages of fine print and some 8000 words, regularly chanced is something that ANY of your users read?Really?If you write it in the terms of service or not, it is theft.Mod Note: Email signature removed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sijozed Posted February 19, 2018 Author Share Posted February 19, 2018 In addition to what catwriter said, was there a reason you think he should not be paid?It is not a question of paying or not paying; it is a question of Fiverr using my money. I have already paid this person severaltimes and, had it not been for this, I would have paid a few more times. But, if my being absent from my PC for three days has meloosing my money, than this will not happen.The contract was for 6 to 7 days, the seller delivered early and I was not back from my weekend.Dodgy practices like this just make the site unusable!Mod Note: Email signature removed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misscrystal Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 It is not a question of paying or not paying; it is a question of Fiverr using my money. I have already paid this person severaltimes and, had it not been for this, I would have paid a few more times. But, if my being absent from my PC for three days has meloosing my money, than this will not happen.The contract was for 6 to 7 days, the seller delivered early and I was not back from my weekend.Dodgy practices like this just make the site unusable!Mod Note: Email signature removedIt is not a question of paying or not paying; it is a question of Fiverr using my money. I have already paid this person severaltimes and, had it not been for this, I would have paid a few more times. But, if my being absent from my PC for three days has meloosing my money, than this will not happen.I don’t understand why you did not want the writer to be paid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misscrystal Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 It is not a question of paying or not paying; it is a question of Fiverr using my money. I have already paid this person severaltimes and, had it not been for this, I would have paid a few more times. But, if my being absent from my PC for three days has meloosing my money, than this will not happen.The contract was for 6 to 7 days, the seller delivered early and I was not back from my weekend.Dodgy practices like this just make the site unusable!Mod Note: Email signature removedif my being absent from my PC for three days has meloosing my money,How did you lose money? You paid for something and it was delivered to you.If you were not at your computer at the time how does that mean you don’t have to pay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnsartstudionew Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 What is your delivery time ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sijozed Posted February 19, 2018 Author Share Posted February 19, 2018 if my being absent from my PC for three days has meloosing my money,How did you lose money? You paid for something and it was delivered to you.If you were not at your computer at the time how does that mean you don’t have to pay?I did not authorise payment! Anything taken from my escrow account without my authorisation is theft; plain and simple. Terms and Conditions can not take away ANY LEGAL RIGHTS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sijozed Posted February 19, 2018 Author Share Posted February 19, 2018 What is your delivery time ?Delivery time was 6 days; delivery occurred in three. When i did return all was done and dusted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sijozed Posted February 19, 2018 Author Share Posted February 19, 2018 It’s not theft. As stated in Fiverr’s Terms of Service, if the buyer does nothing for 3 days after the seller delivers, the order will be automatically marked as complete. When you created your account, you had to check the box stating that you have read the terms and that you accept them.Anyway, the seller doesn’t have your money yet. Sellers have to wait for 2 weeks after the order was marked as complete to be able to withdraw their funds. If the seller didn’t deliver as advertised, you still have time to complain to Customer Support. Or, you can message your seller and ask them to modify the order is something isn’t right.Here are the terms that you have accepted when you created your account:https://www.fiverr.com/terms_of_serviceIf you wish to contact Customer Support, you can submit a ticket to them here: https://fiverr.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/requests/newI do not want my money back; i will decople my paypal account from Fiverr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newsmike Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 I do not want my money back; i will decople my paypal account from Fiverr.I do not want my money back; i will decople my paypal account from Fiverr.That’ll show em. 20 chars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonbaas Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 I did not authorise payment! Anything taken from my escrow account without my authorisation is theft; plain and simple. Terms and Conditions can not take away ANY LEGAL RIGHTS.I did not authorise payment!In fact, you DID authorize payment at the very instant you placed an order. Sellers are entitled to be paid for the work you hire them to do. And the Fiverr Terms of Service state that orders are automatically completed (unless you respond first – which you apparently did not do) three days after delivery.Your order is complete. The seller gets paid. That’s how Fiverr works.Your complaints on this matter are, therefore, 100% invalid. The TOS makes them invalid.Please reread the TOS. That is the single-most important part of buying/selling here on Fiverr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eoinfinnegan Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 Have you spoken to the seller?If you have worked with them before then they are likely to not have an issue in discussing this with you. The auto-complete after 3 days is pretty standard.You cant expect sellers to never be paid if you dont ever respond.However, making statements like “Fiverr took my money” just make you sound ill-informed or unprofessional. It’s not theft, it is nothing like theft. You agreed to a price and terms, thats what you paid and the terms have been kept to. At this stage you need to see if the seller will show some good will and make a revision or whatever the issue is. Your attitude in doing this will go a long way towards dictating how it will go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fonthaunt Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 Delivery time was 6 days; delivery occurred in three. When i did return all was done and dusted.Delivery time was 6 days; delivery occurred in three.So, you ordered a gig, the seller delivered as promised and even did so earlier than the deadline. The average buyer would be thrilled and maybe even tip the seller for early delivery. I don’t understand your issue.Physical products are the same way for the most part. If you buy a t-shirt on Amazon, you pay up front even though you’ve only seen a picture of the shirt. The seller on Amazon might have a standard shipping time of 7 days but perhaps they live near you and your shirt arrives in 3 days and the UPS person leaves the box on your doorstep. If you are on vacation when it arrives, you still paid for it.When you get home and find that the shirt came early, you don’t accuse Amazon of theft. The only difference on Fiverr is that your product is digital so you don’t even have to worry that a neighbor might take it from your doorstep if it does come early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misscrystal Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 I’ve never heard of anyone saying they lost their money because an order was delivered early when they were on vacation, and therefore blaming fiverr for stealing their money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sijozed Posted February 19, 2018 Author Share Posted February 19, 2018 I’ve never heard of anyone saying they lost their money because an order was delivered early when they were on vacation, and therefore blaming fiverr for stealing their money.Well, you have learned something new today; celeb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misscrystal Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 Well, you have learned something new today; celebI learned that there is literally no limit to how strange people can be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newsmike Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 I learned that there is literally no limit to how strange people can be.Ahhh yes. I love this place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sijozed Posted February 19, 2018 Author Share Posted February 19, 2018 Delivery time was 6 days; delivery occurred in three.So, you ordered a gig, the seller delivered as promised and even did so earlier than the deadline. The average buyer would be thrilled and maybe even tip the seller for early delivery. I don’t understand your issue.Physical products are the same way for the most part. If you buy a t-shirt on Amazon, you pay up front even though you’ve only seen a picture of the shirt. The seller on Amazon might have a standard shipping time of 7 days but perhaps they live near you and your shirt arrives in 3 days and the UPS person leaves the box on your doorstep. If you are on vacation when it arrives, you still paid for it.When you get home and find that the shirt came early, you don’t accuse Amazon of theft. The only difference on Fiverr is that your product is digital so you don’t even have to worry that a neighbor might take it from your doorstep if it does come early.It must be so easy to be so simple! My artist would receive her payment any which way. That is not the issue. The issue is of a contract and i had not accepted the work needing further adjustments as per agreement. Now my artists is a good operator and said she would do these anyway. But, Fiverr closing the what is between me and her is not one no matter if it is written somewhere in the 8000+ word TaC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misscrystal Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 It must be so easy to be so simple! My artist would receive her payment any which way. That is not the issue. The issue is of a contract and i had not accepted the work needing further adjustments as per agreement. Now my artists is a good operator and said she would do these anyway. But, Fiverr closing the what is between me and her is not one no matter if it is written somewhere in the 8000+ word TaC.So don’t blame fiverr because you were on vacation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fonthaunt Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 It must be so easy to be so simple! My artist would receive her payment any which way. That is not the issue. The issue is of a contract and i had not accepted the work needing further adjustments as per agreement. Now my artists is a good operator and said she would do these anyway. But, Fiverr closing the what is between me and her is not one no matter if it is written somewhere in the 8000+ word TaC.Fiverr closing the whatYou could have read the “Accepting Deliveries” part of the Buyer Help Center which is less than 500 words. It also says: "Notes:After three days, your order will autocomplete.If you click Request Revision, you can simply write a message to your seller and explain what you would like revised."Regardless, your seller agreed to help you with the revision and you will still get what you paid for, so there is still no problem. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eoinfinnegan Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 8100+ words of terms and conditions.Yes, everyone reads them.But hey, no problem. I disagree with this method of stealing and will no linger subject myself to it. The job was meant to take 6days than I would have three days to review it; it was submitted early and thus my 7 day holiday did not allow me to review the JobFiverr deciding it’s one dollar earning more important than a decent standard.Conditions or not, it is simply a bad way of operating, no matter how often Fiverr people refer to the overly long and complex TaCas a legitimisation of a very wrong process.Now, either see this as customer feedback or waste more time on trying to convince someone of needing to read such long terms andConditions every time Fiverr decide to change them.Think people think!Good bye and sorry to the Fiverr artists who loose work because of draconian and autocratic TaC as Fiverr employees.Sijo Robert ZShaolin Kung Fu MordiallocWEB Site - https://www.shaolin.com.auFacebook - https://www.■■■■■■■■■■■■/Shaolin.com.au/alternate e-mail address;sijo@kungfu.networkMob - 0458 742 654Fiverr deciding it’s one dollar earning more important than a decent standard.Why is it always the $5 buyers who demand that the whole system change to suit them?Conditions or not, it is simply a bad way of operating, no matter how often Fiverr people refer to the overly long and complex TaCIt is how Fiverr operates and what you agreed to.The 3 day completion thing has been around unchanged for years. The ToS is written in easy to understand language and broken up into sections so you only need read those relevant to buying.My artist would receive her payment any which way. That is not the issue.No, because if you decided to stay on holiday for another week or perhaps decided that your $5 order was not important to you any more then the order would never close so the seller would never get paid.The issue is of a contract and i had not accepted the work needing further adjustments as per agreementThe agreement is that you you request changes within 3 days of delivery or it autocompletes. There isnt actually any issue here, just a person who doesn’t understand or wont accept that the fault is theirs.Once again, I have to highlight that your whole complaint, rant and unreasonable demands here are about $5… I hate to imagine what would happen if something serious happened to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misscrystal Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 This was a $5 order? No wonder. 😏 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mianatifcd70 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 Dear your Money Is Not Waste Please contact fiver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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