Do you think Fiverr should have an option to recommend services we could create?

[cyaxrex]

You miss the point man. What you want is winner gig ideas that will give you more $$ for free. If you want that, browse the site, put it the work and be creative, you will find those on your own.

Arguing with people that clearly don’t want this is just a waste of time. What I recommend you to do is to check gig categories and you can create a list with all kinds of ideas. You can even come up with your own. And then match those ideas to your skills, see what you can do or not. Put in the work, don’t expect an algorithm to do that for you.

What I recommend you to do is to check gig categories and you can create a list with all kinds of ideas. You can even come up with your own. And then match those ideas to your skills, see what you can do or not. Put in the work, don’t expect an algorithm to do that for you.

But how will the OP know if that will be profitable? 😱

Obviously, I’m being sarcastic. 😉

[uk1000]

What I recommend you to do is to check gig categories and you can create a list with all kinds of ideas. You can even come up with your own. And then match those ideas to your skills, see what you can do or not. Put in the work, don’t expect an algorithm to do that for you.

But how will the OP know if that will be profitable? 😱

Obviously, I’m being sarcastic. 😉

It’s true though. Both could be profitable but if I can earn 10x more from Y instead of X when I have the skills for both it wouldn’t be worthwhile doing X when I should be doing Y which would be much more profitable. Yes I could look on the site but that won’t tell me the profits really (you can’t tell how much a gig has sold from just the prices on a gig page or what other costs were involved which decreased profits) or how much work/time was put into it really or whether I have the same skills as particular seller. It’s not general enough either really (you don’t want to take info from specific gigs, but instead use info from services in general/can I do particular service not a specific gig title).

[cyaxrex]

It’s true though. Both could be profitable but if I can earn 10x more from Y instead of X when I have the skills for both it wouldn’t be worthwhile doing X when I should be doing Y which would be much more profitable. Yes I could look on the site but that won’t tell me the profits really (you can’t tell how much a gig has sold from just the prices on a gig page or what other costs were involved which decreased profits) or how much work/time was put into it really or whether I have the same skills as particular seller. It’s not general enough either really (you don’t want to take info from specific gigs, but instead use info from services in general/can I do particular service not a specific gig title).

Yes I could look on the site but that won’t tell me the profits really (you can’t tell how much a gig has sold for just the prices on a gig) or how much work/time was put into it really.

I’m starting to think you are just trolling now. Your profit in any gig depends on how you price it, your working methods, and your time management skills. That you can’t seem to grasp this is a bit flabbergasting.

[uk1000]

Yes I could look on the site but that won’t tell me the profits really (you can’t tell how much a gig has sold for just the prices on a gig) or how much work/time was put into it really.

I’m starting to think you are just trolling now. Your profit in any gig depends on how you price it, your working methods, and your time management skills. That you can’t seem to grasp this is a bit flabbergasting.

Not really. For some services people expect to pay a low price (eg. rotoscoping isn’t a high paying service really. People don’t expect to pay a high amount for it). Those same or similar (or totally different) skills could be used for different, more productive/more profitable service(s) that charge a much higher price that people would be willing to pay. Some services aren’t really profitable/profitable enough even if you increased the price.

[misscrystal]

It sounds like more of a problem with being hamstrung by a generalized anxiety about making a mistake more than anything else. I’m sympathetic to that. I can imagine even with some recommendations by fiverr, there would still be the anxiety over the whole affair.

Anxiety can keep people trapped and not moving in life or doing anything. It’s good to at least recognize it for what it is. When you start saying what if this happens, or what if that happens, I better not do anything until I get something else to rely on, then you can start to think about how anxiety might be affecting you.

[cyaxrex]

Not really. For some services people expect to pay a low price (eg. rotoscoping isn’t a high paying service really. People don’t expect to pay a high amount for it). Those same or similar (or totally different) skills could be used for different, more productive/more profitable service(s) that charge a much higher price that people would be willing to pay. Some services aren’t really profitable/profitable enough even if you increased the price.

Those same or similar skills could be used for different, more productive/more profitable service that charges a much higher price that people would be willing to pay.

All you are forgetting is anyone who sells anything successfully has created a gig, incrementally increased their prices as they have built social proof, and gets sales today for something they sell for $50, because buyers trust their reviews and portfolio.

You can complete a skills test which is a match for what that seller offers. However, it will always be ten times harder for you to charge the prices they do and get sales, because you don’t have the social proof they have.

Fiverr might recommend you sell something. However, you will never sell that something as well as someone else without having the social proof they have already built around their brand. They might make $50 a day. However, fewer buyers will be willing to take a chance on your gig. In this case, you might make $50 a week.

People don’t pay me $40 to write a 500-word article because a multiple choice quiz says I’m good at what I do and Fiverr has recommended I set that price. They buy from me because I have 1,400 reviews, and my prices reflect how I have tailored my services to meet the needs of my target market during 5-years familiarizing myself with that market.

The longer you put off building the same kind of social proof, the harder it is always going to be for you to sell anything.

[lenasemenkova]

Instead of this rather useless feature for most people, Fiverr should add a way to stop people from buying multiples unless we want to. I work alone myself, so gig multiples bring tons of work at the same deadline. That would be a feature I would want and it makes sense for a lot of people working on the website.

As for your request, clearly most people don’t want it. And Fiverr will never do it, because they won’t use data from sellers to offer information or guidelines to others.

I told you above. If you want to find recommendations just browse the website itself or your category, you will easily find all kinds of ideas. Instead it seems you want Fiverr to do that for you…

Not everyone will be creative and that’s fine. You don’t need Fiverr to find the type of gig that suits your skills. If you can’t figure out the type of gig you want to offer on your own, then it’s clear you shouldn’t be offering it in the first place so…

To make fiverr work for you long-term, you have to make a product out of something you can do a) good, b) fast, c) without stressing about it much. It’s really this simple. Figuring out what this is on your own is part of the process and an important one at that.

Fiverr should add a way to stop people from buying multiples unless we want to.

Yes, please. It’s such a disaster that I had to disable my extra fast deliveries feature.

[misscrystal]

I can think of a family member who could never be self employed, or a freelancer, because they like the security of going to the same workplace every day, collecting the same paycheck every week, and having the same benefits they can rely on. This kind of worklife would be unbearable to them. Never knowing what may or may not work, not knowing if or when they will earn some money, or how much, would drive them insane.
So this is not something for everyone to be comfortable with. This relates to what I was saying about anxiety. Some are simply paralyzed with fear over this way of working.

Also for some their entire ego is at stake here.

[terrygrantvo]

Yes I could look on the site but that won’t tell me the profits really (you can’t tell how much a gig has sold for just the prices on a gig) or how much work/time was put into it really.

I’m starting to think you are just trolling now. Your profit in any gig depends on how you price it, your working methods, and your time management skills. That you can’t seem to grasp this is a bit flabbergasting.

cyaxrex:

Yes I could look on the site but that won’t tell me the profits really (you can’t tell how much a gig has sold for just the prices on a gig) or how much work/time was put into it really.

I’m starting to think you are just trolling now. Your profit in any gig depends on how you price it, your working methods, and your time management skills. That you can’t seem to grasp this is a bit flabbergasting.

Jan… Marsha… I think the two of you should just meet each other in the alley behind the school and duke it out. It’s the only way to be sure who’s right.

[miiila]

There’s mixing and mastering, but that’s in music. It’s the closest of the current categories. For god’s sake, there isn’t even sound design in the voice over section! I have so many audio-related categories I could suggest. The problem is right now those categories don’t exist and there isn’t an easy way to suggest them. So far as I understand, that’s what this thread was all about. I understand the need to verify skills (I in fact very much agree with it, but I think we need to be able to suggest new categories of products to sell).

I tend to agree with Cy.

Apart from that, Fiverr kind of does what you suggest. They introduced new sub-niches and even smaller specialisation choices into categories and subcategories, or even whole new categories, the gaming one a while ago and just now the new “architecture and building store”.

I’m pretty sure they do put all their data to use in the way they think most profitable/best.

Sellers who are attentive and actively looking for new opportunities, and have the time and resources for more gigs, will notice such changes/recommendations and act.

Delivering everything to all sellers on a silver platter, no matter their level, entrepreneurial talent, etc. might indeed be counterproductive, as the main goal obviously is to serve buyers better.

So, I’d say they kind of do what you suggest but on a macro level (offering the opportunity to those who “listen” and have some self-motivation and perhaps the skills to go along with it) instead of on a micro level (putting opportunities right in front of everyone, including people who wouldn’t recognize an opportunity if it bit them in the nose, and those with no defined skills who constantly ask “which gigs are the most profitable” instead of finding, or creating, opportunities based on their skills).

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I have so many audio-related categories I could suggest. The problem is right now those categories don’t exist and there isn’t an easy way to suggest them.

Hm, I know there was an option to suggest new stuff when I created or edited (don’t remember which) a gig some time ago and chose from some sub-thing or other. If there is no such option in your category, write your suggestions up, add some compelling reasons why it would be beneficial to Fiverr to offer them and send them to support, asking them to pass it on to the relevant team?

[misscrystal]

I tend to agree with Cy.

Apart from that, Fiverr kind of does what you suggest. They introduced new sub-niches and even smaller specialisation choices into categories and subcategories, or even whole new categories, the gaming one a while ago and just now the new “architecture and building store”.

I’m pretty sure they do put all their data to use in the way they think most profitable/best.

Sellers who are attentive and actively looking for new opportunities, and have the time and resources for more gigs, will notice such changes/recommendations and act.

Delivering everything to all sellers on a silver platter, no matter their level, entrepreneurial talent, etc. might indeed be counterproductive, as the main goal obviously is to serve buyers better.

So, I’d say they kind of do what you suggest but on a macro level (offering the opportunity to those who “listen” and have some self-motivation and perhaps the skills to go along with it) instead of on a micro level (putting opportunities right in front of everyone, including people who wouldn’t recognize an opportunity if it bit them in the nose, and those with no defined skills who constantly ask “which gigs are the most profitable” instead of finding, or creating, opportunities based on their skills).

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I have so many audio-related categories I could suggest. The problem is right now those categories don’t exist and there isn’t an easy way to suggest them.

Hm, I know there was an option to suggest new stuff when I created or edited (don’t remember which) a gig some time ago and chose from some sub-thing or other. If there is no such option in your category, write your suggestions up, add some compelling reasons why it would be beneficial to Fiverr to offer them and send them to support, asking them to pass it on to the relevant team?

There are lots of gigs under the subjects people need to post gigs in but they can’t have a separate category for each and every thing. So in this case there is the audio engineering category, with lots of gigs under the heading sound effects. And voila under that sub category is the subject of “sound design”, containing many gigs offering that, which is the one the other poster wanted as a separate category.

[uk1000]

I tend to agree with Cy.

Apart from that, Fiverr kind of does what you suggest. They introduced new sub-niches and even smaller specialisation choices into categories and subcategories, or even whole new categories, the gaming one a while ago and just now the new “architecture and building store”.

I’m pretty sure they do put all their data to use in the way they think most profitable/best.

Sellers who are attentive and actively looking for new opportunities, and have the time and resources for more gigs, will notice such changes/recommendations and act.

Delivering everything to all sellers on a silver platter, no matter their level, entrepreneurial talent, etc. might indeed be counterproductive, as the main goal obviously is to serve buyers better.

So, I’d say they kind of do what you suggest but on a macro level (offering the opportunity to those who “listen” and have some self-motivation and perhaps the skills to go along with it) instead of on a micro level (putting opportunities right in front of everyone, including people who wouldn’t recognize an opportunity if it bit them in the nose, and those with no defined skills who constantly ask “which gigs are the most profitable” instead of finding, or creating, opportunities based on their skills).

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I have so many audio-related categories I could suggest. The problem is right now those categories don’t exist and there isn’t an easy way to suggest them.

Hm, I know there was an option to suggest new stuff when I created or edited (don’t remember which) a gig some time ago and chose from some sub-thing or other. If there is no such option in your category, write your suggestions up, add some compelling reasons why it would be beneficial to Fiverr to offer them and send them to support, asking them to pass it on to the relevant team?

So, I’d say they kind of do what you suggest but on a macro level (offering the opportunity to those who “listen” and have some self-motivation and perhaps the skills to go along with it) instead of on a micro level (putting opportunities right in front of everyone, including people who wouldn’t recognize an opportunity if it bit them in the nose, and those with no defined skills who constantly ask “which gigs are the most profitable” instead of finding, or creating, opportunities based on their skills).

But the categories or subcategories they create have nothing to do with a particular sellers skills even if there might be profit in them/demand for them. Some might be more to do with splitting a particular category to help people find stuff but there might be very little profit per hour worked in some subcategories created (people expect to pay little for a lot of work in them) when the sellers would be much better off financially using their skills in a different category/subcategory.

instead of on a micro level (putting opportunities right in front of everyone, including people who wouldn’t recognize an opportunity if it bit them in the nose, and those with no defined skills

But according to the original post, the recommendation will use the skills (eg. skill test results) and other data (such as previously created gigs and their performance and the categories/subcategories they’re in) to create the recommendations. It wouldn’t really be able to recommend to those who it had none of this info for (eg. no defined skills). It might encourage sellers to sellers to take some skills tests and/or create existing gigs so it could recommend much better. If there’s better ways of determining a seller’s skills they could use those (such as other, different types of skills tests), but my suggestion could be a good starting point. They could always refine it later.

[donnovan86]

So, I’d say they kind of do what you suggest but on a macro level (offering the opportunity to those who “listen” and have some self-motivation and perhaps the skills to go along with it) instead of on a micro level (putting opportunities right in front of everyone, including people who wouldn’t recognize an opportunity if it bit them in the nose, and those with no defined skills who constantly ask “which gigs are the most profitable” instead of finding, or creating, opportunities based on their skills).

But the categories or subcategories they create have nothing to do with a particular sellers skills even if there might be profit in them/demand for them. Some might be more to do with splitting a particular category to help people find stuff but there might be very little profit per hour worked in some subcategories created (people expect to pay little for a lot of work in them) when the sellers would be much better off financially using their skills in a different category/subcategory.

instead of on a micro level (putting opportunities right in front of everyone, including people who wouldn’t recognize an opportunity if it bit them in the nose, and those with no defined skills

But according to the original post, the recommendation will use the skills (eg. skill test results) and other data (such as previously created gigs and their performance and the categories/subcategories they’re in) to create the recommendations. It wouldn’t really be able to recommend to those who it had none of this info for (eg. no defined skills). It might encourage sellers to sellers to take some skills tests and/or create existing gigs so it could recommend much better. If there’s better ways of determining a seller’s skills they could use those (such as other, different types of skills tests), but my suggestion could be a good starting point. They could always refine it later.

Here we go again lol!

@uk1000, this is the type of task that you can do on your own. If you are skilled enough, you will find ways to expand your skills on your own. You don’t need an algorithm for that. If you can’t figure out the type of skill you can share on your own, then offering that service might not be a good idea in the first place.

You can easily find gig ideas if you know how and where to look. This type of system doesn’t work on a platform where you choose what to sell. As someone else said above, we are freelancers, not employees and no one tells us what to do. If you want gig ideas, browse the site and take the time to put in some work, establish lists, etc. It’s lazy to expect everything at once. Come on.

I never took a skill test on Fiverr and that’s because I don’t need it. I am confident in my work and I know what skills to take on myself. This type of idea you share seems to be targeted towards people that are uncertain or which will sell anything just to make $$ on Fiverr. That will only encourage even more low quality gigs on the website and buyers turning away from the site itself because they had bad experiences.

Use your current skillset, create gigs around it and it will be much better. No one should rely on AI to let them know what skills they have… if you’re not able to find your own skills then offering a service here might not be the best idea. I believe it’s important for someone to be confident in their skillset and expand it naturally on their own. The last thing we need on the site is more low quality gigs created by people just to get negative reviews and push buyers away…

[cyaxrex]

Here we go again lol!

@uk1000, this is the type of task that you can do on your own. If you are skilled enough, you will find ways to expand your skills on your own. You don’t need an algorithm for that. If you can’t figure out the type of skill you can share on your own, then offering that service might not be a good idea in the first place.

You can easily find gig ideas if you know how and where to look. This type of system doesn’t work on a platform where you choose what to sell. As someone else said above, we are freelancers, not employees and no one tells us what to do. If you want gig ideas, browse the site and take the time to put in some work, establish lists, etc. It’s lazy to expect everything at once. Come on.

I never took a skill test on Fiverr and that’s because I don’t need it. I am confident in my work and I know what skills to take on myself. This type of idea you share seems to be targeted towards people that are uncertain or which will sell anything just to make $$ on Fiverr. That will only encourage even more low quality gigs on the website and buyers turning away from the site itself because they had bad experiences.

Use your current skillset, create gigs around it and it will be much better. No one should rely on AI to let them know what skills they have… if you’re not able to find your own skills then offering a service here might not be the best idea. I believe it’s important for someone to be confident in their skillset and expand it naturally on their own. The last thing we need on the site is more low quality gigs created by people just to get negative reviews and push buyers away…

I never took a skill test on Fiverr and that’s because I don’t need it.

I don’t understand how people have the time for skills tests and Learn courses. August was my worst month ever on Fiverr barring my first ever month in 2014. I spent that time finally perfecting my greenscreen/chromakey skills so that I could improve the quality of the video work I offer on Fiverr. Then I started learning how to build games in Unreal Engine, as this seems to be a lucrative niche to tap.

Oh, and learned how to render building mock-ups in Auto CAD! - Not to mention revamped all of my Fiverr gigs.

There result? New sales on new gigs I’ve created and new sales starting to drip into older video gigs as a result of my improved product. - And I still didn’t get everything I wanted to get done accomplished in August.

Having freelanced since late 2012, I find it incomprehensible how some people who say they want to do the same completely lack initiative.

I’m also now wondering if @uk1000 is really just going to sit there waiting for this new system (based on freelance industry derided skill tests) to be implemented before they ever create a new gig?

All this is like talking to a wall. - Scratch that, walls have echos so this is worse.

[uk1000]

Here we go again lol!

@uk1000, this is the type of task that you can do on your own. If you are skilled enough, you will find ways to expand your skills on your own. You don’t need an algorithm for that. If you can’t figure out the type of skill you can share on your own, then offering that service might not be a good idea in the first place.

You can easily find gig ideas if you know how and where to look. This type of system doesn’t work on a platform where you choose what to sell. As someone else said above, we are freelancers, not employees and no one tells us what to do. If you want gig ideas, browse the site and take the time to put in some work, establish lists, etc. It’s lazy to expect everything at once. Come on.

I never took a skill test on Fiverr and that’s because I don’t need it. I am confident in my work and I know what skills to take on myself. This type of idea you share seems to be targeted towards people that are uncertain or which will sell anything just to make $$ on Fiverr. That will only encourage even more low quality gigs on the website and buyers turning away from the site itself because they had bad experiences.

Use your current skillset, create gigs around it and it will be much better. No one should rely on AI to let them know what skills they have… if you’re not able to find your own skills then offering a service here might not be the best idea. I believe it’s important for someone to be confident in their skillset and expand it naturally on their own. The last thing we need on the site is more low quality gigs created by people just to get negative reviews and push buyers away…

If you want gig ideas, browse the site and take the time to put in some work, establish lists, etc. It’s lazy to expect everything at once. Come on.

I’m not expecting “everything at once” and I don’t know why you’re insulting other users and calling them “lazy” just because they would like a feature you don’t want or don’t want them to have.

I never took a skill test on Fiverr and that’s because I don’t need it

The skills tests are also (maybe mostly) to show buyers. If you don’t take a skills tests you don’t allow them to compare your skills to other sellers in your category/subcategory/service type. Maybe you don’t want the buyers to see your scores.

if you’re not able to find your own skills then offering a service here might not be the best idea.

This isn’t really about finding skills it’s about using skills to create the best service from them instead of wasting time on services with skills someone has but the services just aren’t profitable/or are hardly profitable at all. But yes new skills could be created and current ones adjusted. But telling people they shouldn’t be offering a service here, just because they would like a feature that would help isn’t that helpful.

This type of idea you share seems to be targeted towards people that are uncertain or which will sell anything just to make $$ on Fiverr. That will only encourage even more low quality gigs on the website

Or maybe you just don’t want the increased competition because of such a feature so you don’t want the feature implemented for people who it might help.

[cyaxrex]

If you want gig ideas, browse the site and take the time to put in some work, establish lists, etc. It’s lazy to expect everything at once. Come on.

I’m not expecting “everything at once” and I don’t know why you’re insulting other users and calling them “lazy” just because they would like a feature you don’t want or don’t want them to have.

I never took a skill test on Fiverr and that’s because I don’t need it

The skills tests are also (maybe mostly) to show buyers. If you don’t take a skills tests you don’t allow them to compare your skills to other sellers in your category/subcategory/service type. Maybe you don’t want the buyers to see your scores.

if you’re not able to find your own skills then offering a service here might not be the best idea.

This isn’t really about finding skills it’s about using skills to create the best service from them instead of wasting time on services with skills someone has but the services just aren’t profitable/or are hardly profitable at all. But yes new skills could be created and current ones adjusted. But telling people they shouldn’t be offering a service here, just because they would like a feature that would help isn’t that helpful.

This type of idea you share seems to be targeted towards people that are uncertain or which will sell anything just to make $$ on Fiverr. That will only encourage even more low quality gigs on the website

Or maybe you just don’t want the increased competition because of such a feature so you don’t want the feature implemented for people who it might help.

Or maybe you just don’t want the increased competition because of such a feature so you don’t want the feature implemented for people who it might help.

Lol. The way you are making it sound, the people who would benefit from this feature would need another one which uses it for them so they don’t mentally over exert themselves.

I don’t think it is right to say anyone is afraid of the competition. However, everyone should be afraid of over-saturation in profitable gig niches. This and the fact that your system would depend on data from successful sellers being given away like UN brain food aid to people who want to be their competitors.

[donnovan86]

If you want gig ideas, browse the site and take the time to put in some work, establish lists, etc. It’s lazy to expect everything at once. Come on.

I’m not expecting “everything at once” and I don’t know why you’re insulting other users and calling them “lazy” just because they would like a feature you don’t want or don’t want them to have.

I never took a skill test on Fiverr and that’s because I don’t need it

The skills tests are also (maybe mostly) to show buyers. If you don’t take a skills tests you don’t allow them to compare your skills to other sellers in your category/subcategory/service type. Maybe you don’t want the buyers to see your scores.

if you’re not able to find your own skills then offering a service here might not be the best idea.

This isn’t really about finding skills it’s about using skills to create the best service from them instead of wasting time on services with skills someone has but the services just aren’t profitable/or are hardly profitable at all. But yes new skills could be created and current ones adjusted. But telling people they shouldn’t be offering a service here, just because they would like a feature that would help isn’t that helpful.

This type of idea you share seems to be targeted towards people that are uncertain or which will sell anything just to make $$ on Fiverr. That will only encourage even more low quality gigs on the website

Or maybe you just don’t want the increased competition because of such a feature so you don’t want the feature implemented for people who it might help.

As @cyaxrex said, the system will basically bring data from successful sellers so others can see it. I welcome competition with open arms, but not low quality gigs made just to earn a quick buck and push customers away.

In one of my sub-categories there are 21000+ gigs, so I don’t mind if 3000 more come, it’s not like it will make any major difference. What matters is quality, and the system you want relies on private data that Fiverr will never use.

It would be great in real life for an entrepreneur to have a tool where it will automatically say what type of business will be the most profitable. Just like in real life, on Fiverr you learn from mistakes and by expanding based on your personal skillset.

Also @uk1000, I am not insulting anyone. A person that expects information for free without working for it will always be lazy. Hard work is what pays off, not expecting someone else to do that for you. It’s just my opinion, feel free to have your own, but it’s a public forum and the great thing is that I am allowed to share what I think. My intent is to help others by making them expand their reach. Not wasting time on expecting someone else to do that for them. I even offered some pointers in a previous post. Needlessly picking on every point I made shows that you really want this supposed feature to appear, I don’t see why as It would just bring downsides for the platform. More low quality gigs, buyers leaving due to bad experiences. Sure, it might work for some people, but as always most people will abuse it. And that’s not something that we need, even more issues.

[uk1000]

As @cyaxrex said, the system will basically bring data from successful sellers so others can see it. I welcome competition with open arms, but not low quality gigs made just to earn a quick buck and push customers away.

In one of my sub-categories there are 21000+ gigs, so I don’t mind if 3000 more come, it’s not like it will make any major difference. What matters is quality, and the system you want relies on private data that Fiverr will never use.

It would be great in real life for an entrepreneur to have a tool where it will automatically say what type of business will be the most profitable. Just like in real life, on Fiverr you learn from mistakes and by expanding based on your personal skillset.

Also @uk1000, I am not insulting anyone. A person that expects information for free without working for it will always be lazy. Hard work is what pays off, not expecting someone else to do that for you. It’s just my opinion, feel free to have your own, but it’s a public forum and the great thing is that I am allowed to share what I think. My intent is to help others by making them expand their reach. Not wasting time on expecting someone else to do that for them. I even offered some pointers in a previous post. Needlessly picking on every point I made shows that you really want this supposed feature to appear, I don’t see why as It would just bring downsides for the platform. More low quality gigs, buyers leaving due to bad experiences. Sure, it might work for some people, but as always most people will abuse it. And that’s not something that we need, even more issues.

A person that expects information for free without working for it will always be lazy

Are you also calling sellers who use Fiverr’s skills recommendation lazy or buyers who use Fiverr’s recommended gigs feature? Or other site’s (such as Amazon’s) recommended products feature? What about sellers who use apps like “Buzz Sumo” to get recommendations for trending topics to write about? Are you also calling them lazy for getting that info instead of researching it some other way?

[donnovan86]

A person that expects information for free without working for it will always be lazy

Are you also calling sellers who use Fiverr’s skills recommendation lazy or buyers who use Fiverr’s recommended gigs feature? Or other site’s (such as Amazon’s) recommended products feature? What about sellers who use apps like “Buzz Sumo” to get recommendations for trending topics to write about? Are you also calling them lazy for getting that info instead of researching it some other way?

Man, what you are saying with this feature is to have people magically expect gig ideas based on successful sellers.

Using Buzz Sumo means you are researching. That means you are actually trying to find general information based on social shares and other stuff.

In the case of Fiverr this means relying on internal search and personal data, things that no website will share. Fiverr already has recommendations like Amazon, it recommends other gigs if people don’t like the one they are seeing at this time. These are useful.

What we are talking about here is a feature for sellers that magically expect best selling gig ideas without work. Not sure why you are picking on me when I am just expressing my opinion. I guess you misunderstood what I said when it comes to lazyness and you are trying to undermine my idea.

When you create such a topic you have to expect people that don’t agree with the topic. And as you can see, the majority doesn’t… I am expecting other features to be introduced, if I want to expand my skillset I can do that on my own… But to each his own, feel free to ask for this, but some of the experienced, longtime sellers here might disagree with it as you can already see.

[donnovan86]

I am trying to have a civil, tranquil conversation here about this topic and I am allowed to express my ideas. However it seems you are clearly pro your idea and I won’t waste any more time trying to express mine. There are more important features we need on Fiverr than this, and I am sure others agree with me. This is a feature that won’t appear because it will rely on gig data and that’s not public. So… we are just wasting time here.

But good luck with your idea. I won’t continue to argue, especially when you are trying to pit my words against me. I just encouraged people to work hard to achieve what they want. If that’s bad then I apologize, won’t share any other tips 🙂

[uk1000]

I am trying to have a civil, tranquil conversation here about this topic and I am allowed to express my ideas. However it seems you are clearly pro your idea and I won’t waste any more time trying to express mine. There are more important features we need on Fiverr than this, and I am sure others agree with me. This is a feature that won’t appear because it will rely on gig data and that’s not public. So… we are just wasting time here.

But good luck with your idea. I won’t continue to argue, especially when you are trying to pit my words against me. I just encouraged people to work hard to achieve what they want. If that’s bad then I apologize, won’t share any other tips 🙂

I am trying to have a civil, tranquil conversation here about this topic

Then maybe don’t call people who want a feature (similar to ones that already exist on Fiverr like the skills recommendations or the gig recommendations for buyers) “lazy” or don’t keep suggesting they shouldn’t offer services on the site if they’d like a particular feature. Saying things like “Here we go again lol!” also isn’t being civil if you’re “laughing out loud” at what has just been said in the thread.

Also if the “most profitable/high profitability” bit is an issue they could just recommend services (general ones) that match a seller’s skills without the profitable part. The seller could then decide for themselves if they think it would likely be profitable for them (or more profitable than the services they have created already).

[donnovan86]

I am trying to have a civil, tranquil conversation here about this topic

Then maybe don’t call people who want a feature (similar to ones that already exist on Fiverr like the skills recommendations or the gig recommendations for buyers) “lazy” or don’t keep suggesting they shouldn’t offer services on the site if they’d like a particular feature. Saying things like “Here we go again lol!” also isn’t being civil if you’re “laughing out loud” at what has just been said in the thread.

Also if the “most profitable/high profitability” bit is an issue they could just recommend services (general ones) that match a seller’s skills without the profitable part. The seller could then decide for themselves if they think it would likely be profitable for them (or more profitable than the services they have created already).

I was laughing out loud at the fact that you continue to defend your idea and not allowing other people to have a different opinion. The simple fact that you shared a pool here shows the interest in it and invites people to comment. You should expect people that dislike your idea, whether it’s good or not.

Obviously I am not trying to insult anyone. But I clearly believe hard work always pays off. I am never a fan of having ideas fall right in front of me, I prefer to work hard and find them. To each his own. If anyone felt offended, I apologize, I am just trying to motivate people to work.

And to you dear sir, good luck with your idea.

[cyaxrex]

I am trying to have a civil, tranquil conversation here about this topic

Then maybe don’t call people who want a feature (similar to ones that already exist on Fiverr like the skills recommendations or the gig recommendations for buyers) “lazy” or don’t keep suggesting they shouldn’t offer services on the site if they’d like a particular feature. Saying things like “Here we go again lol!” also isn’t being civil if you’re “laughing out loud” at what has just been said in the thread.

Also if the “most profitable/high profitability” bit is an issue they could just recommend services (general ones) that match a seller’s skills without the profitable part. The seller could then decide for themselves if they think it would likely be profitable for them (or more profitable than the services they have created already).

Then maybe don’t call people who want a feature (similar to ones that already exist on Fiverr like the skills recommendations or the gig recommendations for buyers) “lazy”

It is lazy. You might be upset by someone saying that. However, your entire idea is based on the fact that you (as you yourself have said) won’t have to waste time figuring out what to sell for yourself.

You have said in previous posts that you do not want to waste time or risk getting a 1-star review after creating a gig which isn’t well received. A polite way of categorizing this kind of mindset might be to call it ‘risk-averse.’ However, if I wanted to use steroids to grown enough muscle to run a marathon without training or risking the occasional stumble, I think it would be fair for other athletes who do to call me lazy.

Like it or not, freelancing is a marathon and you don’t get anywhere without taking risks or putting in the actual leg time yourself. This rule is universal and this rule will still hold true even if your idea for an AI is ever implemented.

[uk1000]

I was laughing out loud at the fact that you continue to defend your idea and not allowing other people to have a different opinion. The simple fact that you shared a pool here shows the interest in it and invites people to comment. You should expect people that dislike your idea, whether it’s good or not.

Obviously I am not trying to insult anyone. But I clearly believe hard work always pays off. I am never a fan of having ideas fall right in front of me, I prefer to work hard and find them. To each his own. If anyone felt offended, I apologize, I am just trying to motivate people to work.

And to you dear sir, good luck with your idea.

I was laughing out loud at the fact that you continue to defend your idea and not allowing other people to have a different opinion.

I have defended my idea and given what I think is the case/facts but I’m not stopping anyone else from having a different opinion.

good luck with your idea.

Thanks.

It is lazy.

Working “smart” isn’t lazy. Using options available that would save time and likely increase profits and allow you to work smarter should be better than doing tons of manual work when it could better/more accurately be shown by the system. If it’s not lazy to help by using a spell checker and it’s not lazy to use that app that gives trending topics to write about, it doesn’t just mean that those who would want/benefit from an option like this are being lazy. If something is available or could be available that can speed up work/profits, using it is working smarter. It’s also not making the system do all the work for the seller, the system could help but the seller would still make the decisions themselves.

[cyaxrex]

I was laughing out loud at the fact that you continue to defend your idea and not allowing other people to have a different opinion.

I have defended my idea and given what I think is the case/facts but I’m not stopping anyone else from having a different opinion.

good luck with your idea.

Thanks.

It is lazy.

Working “smart” isn’t lazy. Using options available that would save time and likely increase profits and allow you to work smarter should be better than doing tons of manual work when it could better/more accurately be shown by the system. If it’s not lazy to help by using a spell checker and it’s not lazy to use that app that gives trending topics to write about, it doesn’t just mean that those who would want/benefit from an option like this are being lazy. If something is available or could be available that can speed up work/profits, using it is working smarter. It’s also not making the system do all the work for the seller, the system could help but the seller would still make the decisions themselves.

Working “smart”

Needing an app to recommend what services you should create is not smart, any more than having a smartphone makes you a Facebook savant.

Not creating and experimenting with gigs and doing your own research before such an app is created is also certainly not smart. You are also suggesting that doing a ton of manual work is silly when it could be done by an automated system because that system could do the job more accurately. That’s not smart, that’s wishful thinking sci-fi.

The ton of manual work you refer to helps you continually stumble upon new ideas and develop new talents and market insights. Not doing this puts you behind your competition and results in stagnating innovation.

The fact that you think this system would work shows that you don’t really know how selling works. The speeding up work and profits you keep mentioning would not be possible. You are overlooking the elephant in the room which is the fact that selling and marketing are skills themselves. You learn how to sell when you put in that ton of dumb manual work. Sales also depend on how sellers market gigs and learn how to build a rapport with your clients.

You choosing not to put in that effort is not smart and no matter how smart an AI, it cannot help anyone who lacks the motivation to help themselves.

As or the basic usefulness of skills tests which you seem to place great emphasis on, here’s what Fiverr’s biggest competitor has to say about the matter:

A few months ago we ran a test to evaluate the impact of removing skill tests, announced here. As a result of the data from the test, we will be removing skill tests from the platform on July 16th.

Our research found that clients don’t find skill tests important when making a hiring decision. They found profile introductions, portfolios, and job feedback to better showcase a freelancer’s skills and experience.

In the Community, many of you have pointed out that skill test scores can easily be manipulated by cheating, as many skill test answers can be found online. Additionally, we frequently hear that these skill tests – especially technical ones – quickly become outdated or irrelevant. This decreases the value and accuracy of skill test results to fairly reflect a freelancer’s proficiency in that skill.

Instead of continuing to provide development resources towards skill tests and asking freelancers to invest time on tests that don’t provide much additional value, we will be removing them altogether. This means starting July 16th freelancers will no longer be able to take skill tests, and prior skill test results will be removed from profiles.

So basically, your super-smart system would involve Fiverr pouring money into an avenue which as already been identified as sales incentive dead end by others. - One might argue that this wouldn’t be that smart.

If something is available or could be available that can speed up work/profits, using it is working smarter.

This is true. However, you are overlooking the best smart tool you can ever hope to own. Namely, this thing: