dhani2020 Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 Hey mates,I need your opinion on below incidenceI am new to fiverr i came here to develop one softwareI found one seller who willing to do my task ,but he said he needs to buy few apis to complete project but to buy them he need advance fund, i was not ready to make any advance payment so after long discussion we agreed that he will deliever an empty delivery which I will accept and after 10 days he will deliver my software I checked few blogs where fiverr team mentioned funds are safe with fiverr within 14 days so i agreed his termaDuring this 10 days period of journey ,i tried to contact seller in between but there was no response , on 10th day when he not responded I immediately raised ticket to support teamThey assured me that they will look into this matter and asked everything regarding order and discussions.After 4 days of time ,when it was 14th day of delivery i again asked support team that what happened to my ticket,they said they are looking into it but funds are safeAfter taking 10 days of review they are telling my order can not be cancelled because its not meeting canceling requirementsWithout telling any specific reason they just trying to close this matter.Order value was $100 and i raised complaint on 10th day of delivery, i did follow upsI have not received my softwarePlease tell me if anythings else can be done here or some one from fiverr fourm gone through with same situationRegardsDHANI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonbaas Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 Hey mates,I need your opinion on below incidenceI am new to fiverr i came here to develop one softwareI found one seller who willing to do my task ,but he said he needs to buy few apis to complete project but to buy them he need advance fund, i was not ready to make any advance payment so after long discussion we agreed that he will deliever an empty delivery which I will accept and after 10 days he will deliver my software I checked few blogs where fiverr team mentioned funds are safe with fiverr within 14 days so i agreed his termaDuring this 10 days period of journey ,i tried to contact seller in between but there was no response , on 10th day when he not responded I immediately raised ticket to support teamThey assured me that they will look into this matter and asked everything regarding order and discussions.After 4 days of time ,when it was 14th day of delivery i again asked support team that what happened to my ticket,they said they are looking into it but funds are safeAfter taking 10 days of review they are telling my order can not be cancelled because its not meeting canceling requirementsWithout telling any specific reason they just trying to close this matter.Order value was $100 and i raised complaint on 10th day of delivery, i did follow upsI have not received my softwarePlease tell me if anythings else can be done here or some one from fiverr fourm gone through with same situationRegardsDHANIPlease tell me if anythings else can be done here or some one from fiverr fourm gone through with same situationWe cannot answer this question because we do not have insight or access to your account. The only people who can resolve this issue for you are Customer Support.As far as your seller, it would have been a big red flag to me if a seller told me that he needed to buy more software to complete an order he was trying to get customers for. That tells me that the seller has no idea how to do what he is promising, and is likely trying to cheat you. You should NEVER be hiring a seller here on Fiverr who requires an advanced down payment on a job. A seller’s prices should always be clearly marked on his/her gig page. Those are the prices you pay, and any other prices would be add-on services to improve the scope of the listed service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creative_ed Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 I’m sorry to hear about your experience.My advice is contact support about this again, say that you are pretty sure that you have been scammed and that the seller in question asked you money in advance and you complied, thinking it was common practice on that area of work, but the seller did not deliver anything at all and stopped responding.You can always try to state that there was verbal agreement of which the seller did not comply, possibly making the order refundable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhani2020 Posted May 22, 2020 Author Share Posted May 22, 2020 I’m sorry to hear about your experience.My advice is contact support about this again, say that you are pretty sure that you have been scammed and that the seller in question asked you money in advance and you complied, thinking it was common practice on that area of work, but the seller did not deliver anything at all and stopped responding.You can always try to state that there was verbal agreement of which the seller did not comply, possibly making the order refundable.Thank you Creative_edI will definitely again raise concern to support team as you suggestedDo you think because support team delayed to look into matter and 14 days gone so they dont have any answer to me that why they are making excuses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariashtelle1 Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 Thank you Creative_edI will definitely again raise concern to support team as you suggestedDo you think because support team delayed to look into matter and 14 days gone so they dont have any answer to me that why they are making excuses14 days gone so they dont have any answer to me that why they are making excusesI’m actually very surprised that they didn’t take any action.First of all, that’s a lesson for you to follow fiverr rules and never ever mark orders complete without receiving actual work.Secondly, ask fiverr support to escalate your ticket and tell them that seller sent you empty delivery which is violation of fiverr TOS and with that your order IS eligible to be cancelled. And attach screenshots from your order with empty delivery.Don’t write long messages. The shorter the better. Only facts and screenshots.Please let us know the response you will get after that email. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhani2020 Posted May 22, 2020 Author Share Posted May 22, 2020 Please tell me if anythings else can be done here or some one from fiverr fourm gone through with same situationWe cannot answer this question because we do not have insight or access to your account. The only people who can resolve this issue for you are Customer Support.As far as your seller, it would have been a big red flag to me if a seller told me that he needed to buy more software to complete an order he was trying to get customers for. That tells me that the seller has no idea how to do what he is promising, and is likely trying to cheat you. You should NEVER be hiring a seller here on Fiverr who requires an advanced down payment on a job. A seller’s prices should always be clearly marked on his/her gig page. Those are the prices you pay, and any other prices would be add-on services to improve the scope of the listed service.Yeah right,and i will be remembered for next timeBut do you thing any alternative for now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhani2020 Posted May 22, 2020 Author Share Posted May 22, 2020 14 days gone so they dont have any answer to me that why they are making excusesI’m actually very surprised that they didn’t take any action.First of all, that’s a lesson for you to follow fiverr rules and never ever mark orders complete without receiving actual work.Secondly, ask fiverr support to escalate your ticket and tell them that seller sent you empty delivery which is violation of fiverr TOS and with that your order IS eligible to be cancelled. And attach screenshots from your order with empty delivery.Don’t write long messages. The shorter the better. Only facts and screenshots.Please let us know the response you will get after that email.Thank you so much Mariashtelle1 for information ,i will do the same and post here again once i received from team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonbaas Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 Yeah right,and i will be remembered for next timeBut do you thing any alternative for nowYeah right,and i will be remembered for next timeBut do you thing any alternative for nowWhy are you trying to get me to give you an answer different than the one I have already provided? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhani2020 Posted May 22, 2020 Author Share Posted May 22, 2020 Yeah right,and i will be remembered for next timeBut do you thing any alternative for nowWhy are you trying to get me to give you an answer different than the one I have already provided?No i am not trying, thank you for your answer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jigraphicexpert Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 Hi! Fiver team always support both parties and provide them equal rights and do not transfer funds before delivery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake_hopkins Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 Hey mates,I need your opinion on below incidenceI am new to fiverr i came here to develop one softwareI found one seller who willing to do my task ,but he said he needs to buy few apis to complete project but to buy them he need advance fund, i was not ready to make any advance payment so after long discussion we agreed that he will deliever an empty delivery which I will accept and after 10 days he will deliver my software I checked few blogs where fiverr team mentioned funds are safe with fiverr within 14 days so i agreed his termaDuring this 10 days period of journey ,i tried to contact seller in between but there was no response , on 10th day when he not responded I immediately raised ticket to support teamThey assured me that they will look into this matter and asked everything regarding order and discussions.After 4 days of time ,when it was 14th day of delivery i again asked support team that what happened to my ticket,they said they are looking into it but funds are safeAfter taking 10 days of review they are telling my order can not be cancelled because its not meeting canceling requirementsWithout telling any specific reason they just trying to close this matter.Order value was $100 and i raised complaint on 10th day of delivery, i did follow upsI have not received my softwarePlease tell me if anythings else can be done here or some one from fiverr fourm gone through with same situationRegardsDHANIhe said he needs to buy few apis to complete project but to buy them he need advance fundFirst red flagwe agreed that he will deliever an empty delivery which I will accept and after 10 daysSecond red flagi tried to contact seller in between but there was no responseThird red flagThe only thing you can do now is see what CS say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk1000 Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 Please tell me if anythings else can be done here or some one from fiverr fourm gone through with same situationWe cannot answer this question because we do not have insight or access to your account. The only people who can resolve this issue for you are Customer Support.As far as your seller, it would have been a big red flag to me if a seller told me that he needed to buy more software to complete an order he was trying to get customers for. That tells me that the seller has no idea how to do what he is promising, and is likely trying to cheat you. You should NEVER be hiring a seller here on Fiverr who requires an advanced down payment on a job. A seller’s prices should always be clearly marked on his/her gig page. Those are the prices you pay, and any other prices would be add-on services to improve the scope of the listed service.As far as your seller, it would have been a big red flag to me if a seller told me that he needed to buy more software to complete an order he was trying to get customers for.…A seller’s prices should always be clearly marked on his/her gig page. Those are the prices you pay, and any other prices would be add-on services to improve the scope of the listed service.I assume this was told to the buyer before the order was made though.The price was probably custom due to the specific order requirements needed by the buyer. eg. without knowing exactly what software requirements the buyer needs, the seller might not know what APIs he needs for it (and those APIs might cost the seller).The seller shouldn’t have just delivered an empty order though (just for the buying the APIs bit) and that shouldn’t have been what was agreed to do if it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surajrenuka Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 best way I can see here is you can share your delivery screenshot to CS and tell them that you received nothing in return and ask to check your delivery file…thats empty.Delivering Empty file just to mark order as complete or to stop timer is agains fiverr TOS…that can help…even if you both agreed, seller broke the rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk1000 Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 best way I can see here is you can share your delivery screenshot to CS and tell them that you received nothing in return and ask to check your delivery file…thats empty.Delivering Empty file just to mark order as complete or to stop timer is agains fiverr TOS…that can help…even if you both agreed, seller broke the rule.Yes I agree they need to deliver either the work (whether as an attachment or link) or something showing proof of work done. For a normal gig anyway (maybe a tip gig would be different). Really the seller should have sent an offer for the software price which included the price of anything he had to buy for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhani2020 Posted May 22, 2020 Author Share Posted May 22, 2020 best way I can see here is you can share your delivery screenshot to CS and tell them that you received nothing in return and ask to check your delivery file…thats empty.Delivering Empty file just to mark order as complete or to stop timer is agains fiverr TOS…that can help…even if you both agreed, seller broke the rule.Hey Surajrenuka,Thank you for your suggestion, I did the same but now CS team is telling they can not able to cancel because its not meeting canceling T&CAnd they are not telling what are those T $ C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariashtelle1 Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 Hey Surajrenuka,Thank you for your suggestion, I did the same but now CS team is telling they can not able to cancel because its not meeting canceling T&CAnd they are not telling what are those T $ CI did the same but now CS team is telling they can not able to cancel because its not meeting canceling T&CIs that their latest response after our comments? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhani2020 Posted May 22, 2020 Author Share Posted May 22, 2020 I did the same but now CS team is telling they can not able to cancel because its not meeting canceling T&CIs that their latest response after our comments?Yes, what they now telling is , they still not cancel the order but they will try to contact with seller and ask him to deliver my productBut they not cleared my doubt like if seller again not delivered will they cancel this timeWhat if seller delivered but my software wil have bug, m I able to ask for correction to sellerThing is today is 26th day of delivery and i guess seller already requested for withdrawal of $100 which will be cleared in next 4 days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coerdelion Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 Sorry this happened to you - it sounds pretty worrying.The problem is that you agreed with the seller that delivering an empty order was acceptable, which is what you got.Unfortunately, you are learning the hard way that these things can happen and that in future, you’ll need to buy your own apis in order to supply them to the seller.Good luck with CS - they really are overwhelmed at the moment. You can ask to escalate the ticket, since you haven’t received the second part of the order, due 10 days later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surajrenuka Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 Yes, what they now telling is , they still not cancel the order but they will try to contact with seller and ask him to deliver my productBut they not cleared my doubt like if seller again not delivered will they cancel this timeWhat if seller delivered but my software wil have bug, m I able to ask for correction to sellerThing is today is 26th day of delivery and i guess seller already requested for withdrawal of $100 which will be cleared in next 4 daysif CS will help you to get your order that is good because at last you spent $100 to get that thing done…yes of course you can ask for revisions if they does not meet to the order description.my question is, Is that seller still relies you ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
destiny_sales1 Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 It happens sometimes. But anyways, am sorry for your bad experience. As a buyer, you shouldn’t mark any job without the seller actually completing the project. And sometimes, it might be very frustrating to request for a refund after the order had been marked as completed.Contact support again to escalate the matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catwriter Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 The price was probably custom due to the specific order requirements needed by the buyer. eg. without knowing exactly what software requirements the buyer needs, the seller might not know what APIs he needs for it (and those APIs might cost the seller).This is the second post suggesting I see in less than 24hs suggesting a seller is a scammer (which in this case they might very well be) for doing practices that may sound fishy out of context but are perfectly normal in some areas.Although whenever I come across this I always send a link with instructions so the buyer can buy whatever third party assets themselves, because:I’m not getting paid to do soA buyer should hold all the licenses themselvesThis way they won’t have to pay Fiverr’s 20% markupSo the problem here was creating an order for something that could’ve easily (I’m assuming) be done by the buyer himself.Unfortunately, you are learning the hard way that these things can happen and that in future, you’ll need to buy your own apis in order to supply them to the seller.If there’s one thing to learn from this is that if a seller needs something just ask what it is that they need, what they need it for, where you can get it yourself and how you can supply that to them so they can finish the order.That should make it easier on both you and the seller.Edit: Just to clarify although I quote you @uk1000 my answer was not directed at you and I agree with your postThis is the second post suggesting I see in less than 24hs suggesting a seller is a scammer (which in this case they might very well be) for doing practices that may sound fishy out of context but are perfectly normal in some areas.They might be normal in some areas, but they’re not normal on Fiverr. That’s not how Fiverr works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikavoice Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 Hello @dhani2020!Welcome to Fiverr, I’m sorry you had a BAD experience from the jump. Rest assured this platform has many amazing Sellers. The best thing you can do is share your side of the story with Fiverr Customer Service. If what you’re saying here happened. The Seller’s communication was POOR.I can only speak from experience. Fiverr CS has always been kind, professional whenever I had a query. Sometimes, I received contradicting responses but in the end they always came to a conclusion that worked for me. Some times things went my way and sometimes it didn’t. But that’s life. I can’t have my 🍰 cake and eat it, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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