How do you handle the forum junk?

[ozan_erdi]

Hey everyone.

I have a problem and some of you veterans may be handling it. Please share if you do.

Now we know there is a myth slumbering around "be active on forum to get orders". We also know that, its is the biggest joke played on the desperate and new people. So there are just hundrends of topics that are meaningless, and thousands of meaningless answers in them. 

"ı got my 1 order, i got my 2nd order, i got my 3rd order, i got my first 5 star, hello i am new, hello i can do bla bla" Things like that. Which is mostly written for the hopes of getting some order, and that is hard to stop.

And thousands of answer like "thank you, useful information, valuable opinion, i am also new, be active on forum, i hope it goes well"  And these answers are keeping those meaningless topics alive. Some of those answers does not even makes sense.

And this happens in every category. Forum is full of junk and nobody can learn anything from those topics. 

Some of them might be tryng to share their happiness, some of them are tryng to get orders with false hopes. I tried helping them, but its no use. Because there are too many of them. But overall, i understand them. They may not now how forums work generally and just try to earn some bucks, their intentions are pure. So im not tryng to s**t on them here. But it doesnt matter what their intents are, they are not doing good for the sake of the forum. Its all filled with junk now.

So my question is this;

How do you handle this? How do you reach to the information you might need? Only option i see is "most replies" filter. But that filter may lead to 3 years old topics that would not be reliable now. 

Thank you

[mariashtelle1]

1 hour ago, ozan_erdi said:

How do you handle this?

I can’t handle this anymore. 
that’s why there is a huge frustration growing among regular visitors. And not only for us but because new people who come to the forum also wouldn’t be able to find their answers because of all spam. 
 

Here is the official reply so you can save this screenshot and share it with others to raise awareness 

[leannelrivers]

1 hour ago, ozan_erdi said:

Some of those answers does not even makes sense.

The new ranking system has likely caused an increase in this kind of forum activity. There is the ever-present myth that forum activity somehow helps sellers get orders or better ranking. 

[vibronx]

We can't really do anything. Unfortunately, it seems that all of these useless posts are being viewed by Fiverr as engagement and not as spam, so it is very doubtful that anything is going to be done about it. It is up to us to decide if we still want to keep participating in the forum under these circumstances or not. I am still mulling it over. Had a two-week boycott of the forum that ended today. I will either stop posting entirely or change the way I participate.

Also, I will add that I do agree with information being harder to find on the new forum. But perhaps that is just because I am still not used to it and the new search system?

Moreover, I will also argue that the intentions of the people spamming are not always pure if you look at their profiles and see the amount of content they have stolen.

[dev_tanmoy]

2 hours ago, ozan_erdi said:

Hey everyone.

I have a problem and some of you veterans may be handling it. Please share if you do.

Now we know there is a myth slumbering around "be active on forum to get orders". We also know that, its is the biggest joke played on the desperate and new people. So there are just hundrends of topics that are meaningless, and thousands of meaningless answers in them. 

"ı got my 1 order, i got my 2nd order, i got my 3rd order, i got my first 5 star, hello i am new, hello i can do bla bla" Things like that. Which is mostly written for the hopes of getting some order, and that is hard to stop.

And thousands of answer like "thank you, useful information, valuable opinion, i am also new, be active on forum, i hope it goes well"  And these answers are keeping those meaningless topics alive. Some of those answers does not even makes sense.

And this happens in every category. Forum is full of junk and nobody can learn anything from those topics. 

Some of them might be tryng to share their happiness, some of them are tryng to get orders with false hopes. I tried helping them, but its no use. Because there are too many of them. But overall, i understand them. They may not now how forums work generally and just try to earn some bucks, their intentions are pure. So im not tryng to s**t on them here. But it doesnt matter what their intents are, they are not doing good for the sake of the forum. Its all filled with junk now.

So my question is this;

How do you handle this? How do you reach to the information you might need? Only option i see is "most replies" filter. But that filter may lead to 3 years old topics that would not be reliable now. 

Thank you

yeah, you are totaly right.

when i should ask any one "what should i do for getting my first order?"

then all reply came same like stay online more time, shere your gig on social media. i know this is not the right way to get order.

i should have to ask you "i will crieate my gig using popper seo and it rank on page 4 on that particular keyword between almost around 8000 seller then it have any possibality to rank on page 1 ?" 

thanks advance 🙂 

[ozan_erdi]

2 hours ago, vibronx said:

We can't really do anything. Unfortunately, it seems that all of these useless posts are being viewed by Fiverr as engagement and not as spam, so it is very doubtful that anything is going to be done about it.

They are even giving badges on the forum for engagement for saying "welcome to fiverr". So people think they achievend something. All those badges and marks and stuff...

I have seen posts that someone says "hello i am here" and 20 answers bellow just saying "welcome, stay active" None of those people have even done 1 order and still tryng to push other people to do the same failed method.

It looks like a creepy rehabilitation group with someone says "hey my name is bob and i am addicted" and the group collectively says "welcome bob" Thats what the forum is about right now. 

2 hours ago, mariashtelle1 said:

Here is the official reply so you can save this screenshot and share it with others to raise awareness 

 

That is a nice proof. But we need some sort of missionary mission, goes door by door and posts this. Even then, i do not think most people would think its true because the idea of "getting money just by posting on the forum" is very strong. And it does not risk anything. At worse, your post would be deleted.

Those people are desperate, not very knowledgable about forums of the platforms. And has a lot of patience. I have seen people saying "i have been active on forum for 6 months, no order yet" 

Fiverr needs to step up and teach people by force, that the gig impressions are not related to forum at all. Like a course or quiz while creating an account. So people will learn what it takes to get orders regularly. But i guess its not gonna happen.

2 hours ago, vibronx said:

Moreover, I will also argue that the intentions of the people spamming are not always pure

I know, im just tryng to be kind. And believe me, i am tryng very hard.

 

 

[ozan_erdi]

Yeah,

Im sure saying "welcome to the forum" gives you orders.

Im sure some buyer would go and "hey! im gonna go check the forums, instead of the actual platform which i can clearly see a list of best sellers to see who has got the talent for me" And i am very sure, the same guy goes and says "Look at that guy over there, he says welcome to everybody, let me give him 30 dollars" Yeah, it happens like that right? So lets all go and say welcome to each other a billion times. And everybody gets rich. AMAZING!

We are talking about the forum junk created by the illusion of "post some stuff and you will get orders"

 

[ozan_erdi]

I am not talking about the constructive forum posts here. Surely people can get to know each other here and it may build into a business. But that happens how much? 1 in a billion? People are here mostly to work and learn. 

Just being active on forum and like  you said, writting "thanks" does not mean anything, it just creates a mass of junk that nobody can gain anything.

This is about the "good for nothing" posts that makes the forum unsuable. And the false knowledge of "posting here will get you orders"

Its the same chance that posting here will get you drinking buddies. Sure it can happen, but is it the right place to look for it? 

[ozan_erdi]

Take a look at this;

Now imagine everybody does this with their, 1st, 3rd, 5th, 7th, 10th and 15th order.

They dont even share any experience or information that might be useful to anyone. They just write this and leave, and under these topics, hundrends of people writting "congrulations"

Now who is gonna benefit from this forum?

[m_s_haque]

Nothing to do as It's official to share your experience here by the way Thanks for your information.

[catwriter]

On 7/13/2021 at 7:44 AM, ozan_erdi said:

How do you handle this?

I binge-watch series or read books instead of being on the forum. I'm currently watching the third season of Lucifer, and while he's often irritating, he's also fun, unlike the forum.

On 7/13/2021 at 7:44 AM, ozan_erdi said:

How do you reach to the information you might need?

Fortunately, recently I didn't need to. And when I do try to find information, I try with search, see what pops up, compare it with things I already know...which won't work for newbies, because they don't know enough.

But hey, we've been told that it's interaction that matters, not how we interact, so it looks like the problem is here to stay. Which is why I'll go back to watching Lucifer and leave badge-hunting and spamming to those who're into that kind of stuff.

By the way, what if it's really a part of a big plan? Let the blind lead the blind, make it difficult for newbies to get proper information (especially if they're new to freelancing and English isn't their first language), let people get themselves banned by following the wrong advice, and then Fiverr gets rid of at least some of the desperate folks who're just cluttering the main site with low-quality (and that's being generous) services?

[ozan_erdi]

22 minutes ago, catwriter said:

I binge-watch series or read books instead of being on the forum. I'm currently watching the third season of Lucifer, and while he's often irritating, he's also fun, unlike the forum.

Fortunately, recently I didn't need to. And when I do try to find information, I try with search, see what pops up, compare it with things I already know...which won't work for newbies, because they don't know enough.

But hey, we've been told that it's interaction that matters, not how we interact, so it looks like the problem is here to stay. Which is why I'll go back to watching Lucifer and leave badge-hunting and spamming to those who're into that kind of stuff.

By the way, what if it's really a part of a big plan? Let the blind lead the blind, make it difficult for newbies to get proper information (especially if they're new to freelancing and English isn't their first language), let people get themselves banned by following the wrong advice, and then Fiverr gets rid of at least some of the desperate folks who're just cluttering the main site with low-quality (and that's being generous) services?

To be honest, my idea that those people who is tryng hard to get jobs on forums will leave in the long run (sad but true)

And, luscifer is a bad show man. I hate it with all my heart. We got one of the strongest entities in the world, goes around and hangs in casinos, catches criminals and doesnt forget to look like a jerk. CMON MAN! THATS THE IDEA? But, if you like it you like it.

[catwriter]

55 minutes ago, ozan_erdi said:

We got one of the strongest entities in the world, goes around and hangs in casinos, catches criminals and doesnt forget to look like a jerk.

The show is based on a character from the Sandman comic.