fltaslimun Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 Successfully send 100 buyer request. I write unique request for every buyer. But the result is I do not receive even a single message from any single buyer. I have to say, fiver is very compitative for the newbies. Still hopeful for some better luck.Note: My gigs are based on digital marketing. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montaaz Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 can you share some of your “unique” offer?I am sure there is a problem if you sent 100 offers with no single message. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bthrive Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 don’t lose your hope in starting you have to face this kind of issues sometime. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fltaslimun Posted December 26, 2020 Author Share Posted December 26, 2020 can you share some of your “unique” offer?I am sure there is a problem if you sent 100 offers with no single message.Here is the last reply“Hi sir, I understand your plan fully. How I will work: At first I will create a local twitter account and submit my details. After setup the account I will tweet daily 20 image or 40 image in 5 session or 10 session. There will be 30 minutes break between the two sessions. I will continue it 30 days and tweet a total number of 6000 tweets for 50$. I have some extra plan for you also. Let’s have brief discussion in the inbox. It’s going to be a cool deal! Thank You, Sir” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronouk Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 My feeling about “Sending customized buyer request” is:It does not work. Yes, the straightforward answer is, IT DOES NOT WORK. This is just a theoretical suggestion that everybody likes to utter because it feels nice, and it gives you the vibe of being a knowledgeable and sensible person. But it’s unworthy advice.You see a buyer request; you take time to understand his/her need, then you write a buyer request based on that, and by that time, your submission may be fell behind hundreds of other offers. Most of the buyer does not want or does not have time to read hundreds of request. So, the scenario is, if the buyer is patient enough to read hundreds of offers before lending the job to anybody, only then you might have the chance of getting that job, otherwise not.So, that “send customized buyer request to everybody based on their need” is just worthless empty advice, like many advice out there. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montaaz Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 Here is the last reply“Hi sir, I understand your plan fully. How I will work: At first I will create a local twitter account and submit my details. After setup the account I will tweet daily 20 image or 40 image in 5 session or 10 session. There will be 30 minutes break between the two sessions. I will continue it 30 days and tweet a total number of 6000 tweets for 50$. I have some extra plan for you also. Let’s have brief discussion in the inbox. It’s going to be a cool deal! Thank You, Sir”I have no knowledge in your niche, but 6000 tweets for $50?? Also, I suggest you install “Grammarly” it will helps you write better in English. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awaisalijanjua Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 I send 250 up unique buyer requests then only one single message receive from buyer. For new sellers it is difficult to get orders. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montaaz Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 My feeling about “Sending customized buyer request” is:It does not work. Yes, the straightforward answer is, IT DOES NOT WORK. This is just a theoretical suggestion that everybody likes to utter because it feels nice, and it gives you the vibe of being a knowledgeable and sensible person. But it’s unworthy advice.You see a buyer request; you take time to understand his/her need, then you write a buyer request based on that, and by that time, your submission may be fell behind hundreds of other offers. Most of the buyer does not want or does not have time to read hundreds of request. So, the scenario is, if the buyer is patient enough to read hundreds of offers before lending the job to anybody, only then you might have the chance of getting that job, otherwise not.So, that “send customized buyer request to everybody based on their need” is just worthless empty advice, like many advice out there.If you spend, let’s say, 1 minute reading the request, 3 minutes thinking about if you can actually do the job, 3 minutes writing an excellent offer, for a project with $5 budget, then my friend this is your mistake.Try to seek a buyer request with a reasonable budget, because a client with a low budget will not spend enough time reading all offers, but a client with good budget will definitely do.If sending a generic offer to all buyer request is helpful for for, then congratulations. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fltaslimun Posted December 26, 2020 Author Share Posted December 26, 2020 I have no knowledge in your niche, but 6000 tweets for $50?? Also, I suggest you install “Grammarly” it will helps you write better in English.Buyer budget was fixed. Just went according to the buyer wish. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronouk Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 If you spend, let’s say, 1 minute reading the request, 3 minutes thinking about if you can actually do the job, 3 minutes writing an excellent offer, for a project with $5 budget, then my friend this is your mistake.Try to seek a buyer request with a reasonable budget, because a client with a low budget will not spend enough time reading all offers, but a client with good budget will definitely do.If sending a generic offer to all buyer request is helpful for for, then congratulations.A buyer with a good budget will not go for a newbie(generally). And, I do not send a generic buyer request to everybody. Instead, I do the same as the post writer wrote. What I wrote is about my personal experience. Just like post writer, I also already sent more than a hundred requests and did not get a single reply from anybody.Oh, I have Grammarly. In fact, I have Grammarly premium. So, I am well aware of my grammatical correctness. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk1000 Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 My feeling about “Sending customized buyer request” is:It does not work. Yes, the straightforward answer is, IT DOES NOT WORK. This is just a theoretical suggestion that everybody likes to utter because it feels nice, and it gives you the vibe of being a knowledgeable and sensible person. But it’s unworthy advice.You see a buyer request; you take time to understand his/her need, then you write a buyer request based on that, and by that time, your submission may be fell behind hundreds of other offers. Most of the buyer does not want or does not have time to read hundreds of request. So, the scenario is, if the buyer is patient enough to read hundreds of offers before lending the job to anybody, only then you might have the chance of getting that job, otherwise not.So, that “send customized buyer request to everybody based on their need” is just worthless empty advice, like many advice out there.You see a buyer request; you take time to understand his/her need, then you write a buyer request based on that, and by that time, your submission may be fell behind hundreds of other offers.I think the default is for the most recent offer to be shown at the top of the list (sorted in descending order of date) to the buyer in their request. So if 100 people have sent an offer and you’re the 101st you’ll be shown at the top by default if they click to view the list after yours is posted (and if no other offers were added). 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krheate Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 My feeling about “Sending customized buyer request” is:It does not work. Yes, the straightforward answer is, IT DOES NOT WORK. This is just a theoretical suggestion that everybody likes to utter because it feels nice, and it gives you the vibe of being a knowledgeable and sensible person. But it’s unworthy advice.You see a buyer request; you take time to understand his/her need, then you write a buyer request based on that, and by that time, your submission may be fell behind hundreds of other offers. Most of the buyer does not want or does not have time to read hundreds of request. So, the scenario is, if the buyer is patient enough to read hundreds of offers before lending the job to anybody, only then you might have the chance of getting that job, otherwise not.So, that “send customized buyer request to everybody based on their need” is just worthless empty advice, like many advice out there.So, that “send customized buyer request to everybody based on their need” is just worthless empty advice, like many advice out there.I completely disagree! Sending a customized buyer request helps the buyer understand how you personally can help them. I’ve posted buyer requests before, and I always delete the copy and paste ones because the people who put those usually haven’t even read my request. But, this is my opinion, so you could be right, I don’t really know! I hope this helps! 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montaaz Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 A buyer with a good budget will not go for a newbie(generally). And, I do not send a generic buyer request to everybody. Instead, I do the same as the post writer wrote. What I wrote is about my personal experience. Just like post writer, I also already sent more than a hundred requests and did not get a single reply from anybody.Oh, I have Grammarly. In fact, I have Grammarly premium. So, I am well aware of my grammatical correctness.I got a $900 project from a buyer request when I was a “newbie” with 4 orders, $5 each. Don’t underestimate the buyer request section. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azadfardin01 Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 I got a $900 project from a buyer request when I was a “newbie” with 4 orders, $5 each. Don’t underestimate the buyer request section.So are you suggesting that we use personalized offers for high-budget projects and copy-paste some generic offer for the low-budget ones? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montaaz Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 So are you suggesting that we use personalized offers for high-budget projects and copy-paste some generic offer for the low-budget ones?That was not my point, I wanted to say that if you don’t get a reply on a project even if you spent a lot of effort writing a good offer, don’t blame the buyer request section. And I explained why some buyers don’t spend enough time reading the offers.One should never use a copy/paste generic offer. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronouk Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 My feeling about “Sending customized buyer request” is:It does not work. Yes, the straightforward answer is, IT DOES NOT WORK. This is just a theoretical suggestion that everybody likes to utter because it feels nice, and it gives you the vibe of being a knowledgeable and sensible person. But it’s unworthy advice.You see a buyer request; you take time to understand his/her need, then you write a buyer request based on that, and by that time, your submission may be fell behind hundreds of other offers. Most of the buyer does not want or does not have time to read hundreds of request. So, the scenario is, if the buyer is patient enough to read hundreds of offers before lending the job to anybody, only then you might have the chance of getting that job, otherwise not.So, that “send customized buyer request to everybody based on their need” is just worthless empty advice, like many advice out there.I already mentioned that in my previous reply:So, the scenario is, if the buyer is patient enough to read hundreds of offers before lending the job to anybody, only then you might have the chance of getting that job, otherwise not.That does not happen often. You just got lucky, that’s all. Congratulations. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bebyte Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 Find your unique sales point on which a buyer should order you. Think you are a buyer and why you are hiring a seller? If you get the answer of this question, you will get the best result from the offer you sent. Every time come down your perspective on a buyer’s perspective, not seller’s.thanks 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mohsinaj Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 Find your unique sales point on which a buyer should order you. Think you are a buyer and why you are hiring a seller? If you get the answer of this question, you will get the best result from the offer you sent. Every time come down your perspective on a buyer’s perspective, not seller’s.thanksGood reply on this post 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akhonzee Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 That was not my point, I wanted to say that if you don’t get a reply on a project even if you spent a lot of effort writing a good offer, don’t blame the buyer request section. And I explained why some buyers don’t spend enough time reading the offers.One should never use a copy/paste generic offer.your advice is very helpful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natore7 Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 I am also send 108 buyer request. But no order generat to buyer request. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
english_voice Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 From what I can understand, far too many sellers are too eager to please and simply follow the buyer’s description and price. The value of the job you described in one of your other posts is not $50 - it is probably closer to $500 or more.Also, the volume of tweets you described is more akin to spam than a marketing campaign. If you were simply following the job description, then it is your job as the ‘expert’ to advise and guide your client.To put it another way, the price was way too cheap (abuse on the part of the buyer and naivety on the part of the seller), and there was a lack of clarity around why the campaign would work (the buyer was either naive or looking for a better idea, and the seller failed to advise on an improved strategy).In summary, advise the buyer on how you would improve on what they want for a fair price. Don’t follow like sheep - be the shepherd. I’m confident that nearly every other respondent would have done the same as you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montaaz Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 I already mentioned that in my previous reply:So, the scenario is, if the buyer is patient enough to read hundreds of offers before lending the job to anybody, only then you might have the chance of getting that job, otherwise not.That does not happen often. You just got lucky, that’s all. Congratulations.I didn’t get lucky, the buyer’s budget was much lower than $900. I gave them a better offer, better suggestions, with much higher cost, and I got the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
english_voice Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 I didn’t get lucky, the buyer’s budget was much lower than $900. I gave them a better offer, better suggestions, with much higher cost, and I got the job.Well said. It is the seller’s place to advise on ways to improve on a job, and to price it appropriately. After all, the seller is the ‘expert’.Too many sellers are far too eager to secure a job at any cost. I can imagine how respondents to buyer requests fall into three categories:“Yes sir, I can do job sir. Give me job sir”. NO CHANCE!Those who quote the job description back at the buyer and follow the buyer’s price or go cheaper. SMALL CHANCE!Those who demonstrate ways to improve the job and can demonstrate a fair price for both the buyer and the seller. YES, RESULT!It’s not rocket science. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azadfardin01 Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 That was not my point, I wanted to say that if you don’t get a reply on a project even if you spent a lot of effort writing a good offer, don’t blame the buyer request section. And I explained why some buyers don’t spend enough time reading the offers.One should never use a copy/paste generic offer.I just wanted to say that this method does work, after like a week of trying and answering to buyer requests I got two clients in the same day (one actually with a €60 offer, whereas my premium package arrives at €39). So yeah, it’s really good advice and I’m glad I decided to follow it.Of course, you gotta find the right client with the right request that you know you can fulfill better than all the other sellers and write your best essay for him lol.But it definitely works, it just takes a lot (like, a lot) of patience. Thanks again for the suggestion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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