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I just find it odd that it only applies to v/o, while basically every creative industry could well charge for rights. Yet I only see v/o artists doing it. I don't see how what they do is different from a logo designer, copywriter, etc. I find it much more elegant to just forget rights altogether and price each project individually according to the client.

Precisely. That doesn't make sense. I can get a client that runs a tv ad that will make him 10k in revenue, and they pay broadcast rights. Then a client that will make 1 million with the video on their website, and they'll pay less since they only need commercial rights. Means of distribution are irrelevant, the only thing that matters is ROI. TV is not inherently more valuable than a website, or than a personal project for that matter. It's about value. And value/roi doesn't even have to be monetary. I can do a non commercial project that has extremely high value for the client. Shouldn't they pay more? According to the "rights" structure, they don't need to pay any, since it's not commercial. Hm.

I understand pricing for value. Yet in my experience (and I've ordered quite a few v/o) none of them do it. They all charge a flat fee for the rights, regardless of the project. That's what doesn't make sense. If that's the idea, may as well just include that flat fee in the basic price. The only differences I've seen were in terms of the extension of the rights (commercial, broadcast, etc.). That doesn't address the project size or revenue potential, just means of distribution, and those mean nothing. You can get a small client wanting a tv ad, and a big client wanting a video for their website. The first one will have to pay more rights for broadcast than the second, since commercial rights are usually cheaper - even though a voice on coca-cola's website is worth way more than the same voice on a tv commercial for some random unknown business.

Well, the extra for "commercial rights" has a fixed price. I suppose that can be a limitation on Fiverr, I also run into that with gig prices. But all voice over artists I've ordered from, I just order the extra for commercial rights without even needing to discuss the project, so there's no price elasticity in my experience. This is your pricing for rights. Is this not accurate and can vary wildly?

So it makes no sense to charge a flat commercial rights fee. I charge my clients according to their size, as in the potential revenue they can make with my service. It's pricing for value. A flat commercial rights fee doesn't address that, you'll charge the same fee to a small operation or a Fortune 500 company. What.

Ok, let me rephrase. Commercial rights should be included by default, since it's the most common. Give a discount to personal projects if you wish. I only see this with voice overs. I don't see logo designers charging commercial rights for a company logo vs a personal logo. A logo is a logo, a recorded voice is a recorded voice. The work is the same. If anything, it makes sense to charge more the more the client will make from it. So, a voice over for a Fortune 500 company must cost more than a voice over for a mom and pop shop. That is what makes sense. But no - commercial rights on gigs are always a flat fee. Makes no sense. Should be proportional to results.

Please let me know the % of your work that is eulogies and the like. You are way out of line with that aggressiveness. Sure, there are cases of people ordering voice overs with non commercial purposes. They are a minority.

I don't really understand the whole commercial rights deal with voice over artists, always looks to me like a bait and switch. Why don't they all price their service including the rights by default? There, problem solved. I've yet to see someone wanting a voice over to then never use it publicly, so rights are a necessity 99% of the time. May as well just include that in the base price and avoid that situation.

@mjensen415 seriously though, you titled this "repeat buyers, repeat rewards". What are the repeat rewards? What do we get? Because I see no rewards, and I'm quite curious. Are there rewards or not?

It should be horizontal, not vertical. It should go without saying, but people always surprise me with their ineptitude.

You can ask for a review upon delivery, you can't ask for a specific or positive review. This was confirmed by a Fiverr success manager and is current practice by multiple TRS and PRO sellers. To give you an example, this exact wording has been confirmed to be totally fine to use on a delivery message: "When you close the order, if you could go ahead and rate it and answer any Fiverr surveys, that would be really helpful for us!"

Ahahahahah no. At least an "expert" won't, doesn't matter if it's new here or not. Pay peanuts, get monkeys.

I'm just saying that if your post is about a big order, and you post a screenshot, then it should show the value, no? If not, why post a screenshot at all? To show what?

What do you mean, thank you for your reply? I said your post doesn't make sense, and you thank me? Learn to read, dude.

"Repeat business; repeat rewards" hmm... can anybody tell me what the "rewards" are? I don't see any rewards. Unless you count a badge as a "reward", but come on. A badge is not a reward. You know what a reward is? Lower fee (for example 10% instead of 20%) on repeat clients. Fiverr - put your money where your mouth is and offer real rewards instead of worthless badges. Thanks.

"Got a big deal!" Decides to post about it. Posts screenshots and hides the only relevant information (namely, the size of the deal), so ends up showing absolutely nothing of interest. Wut. Can you even explain why the screenshot? To show us you have 6 days to deliver? We all know what an order page looks like lmao I clicked this thread fully expecting to satisfy my curiosity in regards to the order value. My disappointment is immeasurable.

There's no fees when withdrawing money to PayPal. The "fees" that people see are currency conversion fees. I always take the money from Fiverr to PayPal in USD, and keep it there in USD (you need a USD account on PayPal, you can just create one). I do it on the desktop exclusively, the app is weird (for instance, in the app there's a confirmation e-mail that I have to click in order to initiate the transfer, in the desktop version I click withdraw and I get it immediately, no confirmation needed). Sellers - always use the desktop version for everything except simple messaging with clients, the mobile app is garbage and missing a ton of features. Then I accumulate, wait for a good exchange rate, and trade a lot of $ for € when convenient. What I haven't been able to find so far is a way to send USD from PayPal to another system (Revolut, for example) to exchange it for €, since the currency conversion fees in PayPal are ridiculous bs. If anybody knows how to do it, please let me know. 2.5% really adds up. Probably will have to look into a way to buy cryptos with USD from PayPal, to then use that to convert, since they don't allow me to withdraw dollars to anywhere else, but they do allow me to make purchases in dollars (in ebay, for example).

You need about 100 5 star reviews. That would leave you at 209 reviews, 1035 total stars (203*5 + 4*4 + 3*1 + 1*1). Dividing 1035 by 209, you get 4,952, which should be enough to round to 5.

Agreed. English proficiency > technical skills in your field in terms of revenue potential long term (provided the first is under a certain threshold and the later over a certain threshold, of course). Communication will impact every facet of your business in a way that hard skills simply can't.

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Stop spamming the forum with nonsense.

Really? I don't get mails for spam contacts. In either case, if you're absolutely sure you replied to every first message in the last 60 days within 24 hours, the response rate must be 100%. If it's not, contact CS right away, screenshot everything, and let them know it's a bug.

Check the spam folder in messages. I hear they can sometimes count against your response rate (clear bug). Contact CS explaining what's happening.

Excellent take! The problem with most sellers complaining is that they aren't willing to wait. They read somewhere that Fiverr was a good way to make quick money, so they desperately chase every single lead, and then they don't understand when it doesn't work for them.

In my case the two single negative reviews come from the country where the vast majority of buyers come from. It's basic statistics, a numbers game.