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Probably so, but so is the language of business. They are damned polite at the Tokyo Hilton. The take away for me is that there are 3 separate issues here, language proficiency, etiquette and honesty. Language: A huge part of language is manner and intent, beyond which words are chosen. The hardest part of learning any language is conjugating the verbs. I'm still trying to perfect my Italian verbs after years of study. This is not the problem on Fiverr as I see it. If someone walks up and says "Please, I sit here?" with a polite manner and a nice attitude, I don't consider them rude or unintelligent. I understand, but they have communicated and I have understood. I'm not expecting everyone to be proficient, and fortunately we can communicate with just basic levels as such. This works for everyday life, however, in a business sense, when doing business on an English platform, that is a different issue entirely. Back to Tokyo. I can assure you that a traveler from Germany, UK, Italy, Sweden, anywhere can be accommodated to some point, because any high end international hotel will insure that front end customer service people are both polite and have been selected to be diverse enough in languages to handle most developed nations and their travelers. Then there's Fiverr, who looks the other way and allows even the most obvious fakers and scammers to claim "English - Fluent/ Native/Bilingual", when they can't pass 2nd grade English. Fiverr looks the other way. Etiquette: This does vary greatly across cultures, but again, in business, there is a minimum bar that IRL would be observed as a common point. As @visualstudios said, "when in Rome," which does apply. But there is also the reality that every country has it's polities and its barbarians. Rome has plenty of pickpockets and purse snatchers. Point is that Fiverr should have some eye on the behavior of whom they allow to sell here, thereby letting that person represent Fiverr. Key word is "should." Honesty: This is the interesting part to me. I don't subscribe to the theory that honesty is malleable or debatable, even across cultures. A shoplifter is a shoplifter in Brooklyn, Tehran and Belgrade. I have yet to find a any major culture that does not, on paper, state that theft, deceit and fraud are acceptable. What I do find is plenty of people who try to explain it away via relativism. "But they are a poor country" "They don't have the same opportunities" "That's not considered bad in their culture" That may all be fine, until you find that you have been the victim of such fraud. So, relating this to my first point, it is perfectly fine to be shaky in a second language. You may be able to function well. It is not, however, OK to claim to falsely claim fluency in order to mek sell. It is not OK to falsely claim to be a "Digital Marketing Expert" to mek sell. We've all seen the many ridiculous fabrications. Remember one guy who claimed to be the CEO of Fiverr? Yet his gig was approved. It took being caught on the forum to remove that. Fiverr, as a business should care about who is representing them when someone visits the site expecting professional freelancers. A better slogan might be, "Fiverr, Hire a great freelancer once you cull through the counterfeits." But I don't think they'll go with it. So I end up where I have been many times. Realizing that Fiverr alone can control the quality of who is allowed to sell under their banner. Doing so could be as simple as having AI crawl through every gig that lists English as fluent/native/bilingual and comparing it to what is actually in their communications. Easy to pause those gigs. Or if they wanted to take the even easier route there is always the pay wall, which would remove the vast majority of such sellers. But when I suggest that, I find even my forum friends clutch they wallets tightly and yell, "Burn him, for he is witch." So, will Fiverr ever address any of this? History suggests otherwise.

That would explain it if the impressions were still high but sales had dropped. The problem here is that Fiverr is just not exposing our gigs, so no impressions.

Any you'd care to mention? Many here have been looking for options.

Don't think you'll see it. We got an official email stating that we had lousy private reviews, but only an unofficial admission that they were sent by mistake, and only after we all had to ask individually for that. No formal email ever came stating that they were fixing our strike in the SQL database because they are not.

They probably are not. While we are sitting here sidelined because of what was most likely a mistake that flagged us with a strike in their SQL database, there are still plenty of sellers on page 1, who are getting impressions and sales. So Fiverr has no real incentive to help us because they are still getting 20%, just not from us.

Did you know it is prohibited and actually kinda creepy to pass off AI written text as your own in the forum? It is considered dishonest because here's how you actually write: "I'll be offer. I'll offer support after selling your order as well." That's funny since you incorrectly claim to be fluent in English.

ChatGPT did a good job on this.

@breals You know how the Swiss are. Writes like this: "how can I get client and orders" Apparently one can be "fluent" in English without knowing about the plural tense. Yes, actually posts this:

But you claim to also be a "social media marketer? What's up with that?

And who at Fiverr is approving these gigs? Like this one and underwear writer? Maybe late shift in Tel Aviv gets lonely?

No, really my completion rate is 410% because I finish orders from the future, before they are even placed.

I assumed underwear models were not easily offended.

I would just tell them NO. Not posing in your underwear might help also. @vickiespencer Serious content writing just got more competitive. Here's my new gig video, cause professionalism. 🤣

Here's you and me trying to clean up the Swiss exparts:

So help me understand. You are simultaneously trying to take money from people as a content creator, and at the same time you are here asking how to improve your gigs? Maybe you should try to sell a service that you actually know how to provide.

You have managed to break 2 forum rules in 1 post. First is posting AI written content, and in perhaps a global first, plagiarism of someone else's AI generated content. Take a bow.

Don't pass off ChatGPT written content as your own, it is dishonest.

The wisdom of killing a successful seller based on the review of someone who has no idea how the platform works. Stunning. We now take you to the Delta Airlines conference room: We've decided to ignore customer satisfaction reviews from our "Million Miler Club" members, and instead will act on the advice of people who slept in the airport and bought a last minute coach seat for $39.

I never expected a solution this quickly. But I really thought that in the last 27 hours someone would have said. "We see you all, we hear you all, standby." If I don't respond to an inbox message inquiry within 24 hours on Easter I get a ding. No recourse. They could respond within the same time frame they hold us to.

I was thinking of posting a link to it in the SP section of the forum.

Precisely. In normal times SM's are terrific for helping get a new seller up to speed. This however is an unusual event where many of the most successful sellers who have driven millions in sales have been reduced to invisibility. Most likely, most of us don't put as much demand on our SM's as we once did because as success grows there is less need. But when something like this happens, of course we turn to them not for routine advice, but to address the sudden, simultaneous drop in many seller's metrics. TBH, the email that "accidentally" went out stating that we all had lousy private feedback at the same time is still not sitting right with me. It feels like the system mistakenly flagged and penalized all of us, and even though SM's admitted that it was a mistake, it feels like no one has let us out of the penalty box. We all agree that the SM's hands are tied, but the question becomes, is that right given what's happening to so many at the same time and in the same way? So far the suggestions have been off target, generic and vague. I still hold out 24 hours after posting this that some SM will respond, indicating that they are having a meeting to help us. We need more than what we get from ChatGPT, as demonstrated upstream in this thread. Again, I don't blame the SM's, however, even an acknowledgement of this thread would be nice,. But I feel that we deserve some level of actual intervention since we are paying good money for someone to "manage our success."

@miiila Brilliant idea. Guess what? ChatGPT gives the same "non answer answers," and 100% free!

You don't write like this in your profile. Let's have a round of applause for ChatGPT.