newsmike

You do not understand the revision system at all. It is not unfair, but it does require you to communicate effectively and act like a business person. For example, if your gig comes with 1 free revision, then when someone asks for the first revision, you are required to provide it. If they request additional revisions beyond that, you simply tell them that the gig came with one free revision, which they have received and that you would be happy to provide any additional revisions at a good price. Then tell them how much. I include zero revisions in my gigs, so when someone asks for a revision, I always respond with an offer. I never understand the mentality of people who can't grasp this concept. It would be like a restaurant owner saying, "I hate when they order more food." Revisions are a revenue generator after the ones included in the gig. The buyer can always ask for more work, it is up to you as a professional to manage what is included in the original order and what is additional. Why is this so hard to understand?

It goes beyond that. Have you stopped to consider it is in everyone's interest to call out dishonesty? If one speaks English like a 3 year old, yet lies and claims "English/Fluent" on their profile, they are absolutely lying and dishonest. Plus, if they will lie about that, what else might they lie about to get sales. That is the point. Not correcting grammar, flagging obvious dishonesty.

If we are doing the Lion and The Expert, you must complete the trilogy with William Shatner's Voice Over session. It is payback for the other two.:

Paul McCartney found that out the hard way when Michael Jackson outbid him for the Beatles catalog, allowing Jackson to license Hey Jude for a toilet paper commercial had he wanted to.

Do your friends happen to have the same IP as you?

Are you able to actually be awake and active 24 hours per day? If not, is it dishonest to try to fool people in thinking that you are?

Yes, clearly. Don't worry that anyone will confuse your logic with mine.

In your example, candidate should be applying at a school, not wasting an employer's time. This is why we don't call med students, Doctors.

We can't tolerate any swindling here. Oh look...

You can probably extend the delivery, but I'm pretty sure if you go past the deadline and are "late" you still take the ding to your delivery metrics and visibility. So it may still sink you even though you get extra time. I don't know because I don't deliver orders late.

No, the Forum has nothing to do with your business on the main site.

So your theory is that rather than raising the bar and recruiting more actual PRO sellers, promote a lot of people who yesterday were not qualified or interested in order to make it appear that they have lots of PRO sellers? Wrong direction, but who is surprised? Taking bets on whether the newly minted "PROS" will be the loudest as if they had earned it and been properly vetted, despite the fact that it is nothing more than window dressing.

Yeah, that is highly questionable. The fact that they are awarding to people who didn't even have an interest in it and have volumes of poor reviews is certainly concerning. That's why "real PRO's" may have to note that in their descriptions.

Yes, now it is just as meaningless as the "Fiverr's Choice" badge. People with hundreds and hundreds of poor reviews for shoddy and incomplete work being given PRO is not a good look. Amazing reading the complaints on some of these newly minted "PROS." It makes my point that they have lowered the bar.

I would hope so, but apparently they are not vetting any longer. There was a review of clients of note, an interview, you had to provide a video and more. Now if they give it to people who didn't even want or apply for it, the PRO badge becomes meaningless. Race to the bottom, just like when they launched Fiverr Business with a pay wall, then caved on that immediately, and now how many posts have we seen where absolute scammers carry the "Fiverr Business" badge?

Interesting point, but I hope we don't see a day where we have PRO sellers at $5 like we have some TRS sellers now. I would expect that if we did, it would be from those who were simply awarded the status as opposed to having earned it through serious vetting. Someone who never even applied for PRO and just had it handed to them may be more likely to view it as a lark, and undercut the people who have been holding the price all along. Depending on how it goes, I may add some verbiage to my description explaining that I was an original PRO seller from back when there was actual vetting, and draw a distinction between the looser definition. But need to see how bad it gets first.

Absolutely true. It makes you wonder why they decided to lower the bar for PRO status, which seems a move in the wrong direction. But I guess we'll have to wait and see how it plays out.

I don't see it.

Yeah, this is how the sort should have been for quite some time. I just hope they don't go crazy with this new initiative of simply promoting sellers who up till now could not qualify for PRO to that status merely to fill the ranks as we've seen some claiming, even folks who never applied. If we just make everyone PRO then it has no meaning. I still think that sellers should have to earn PRO. It was originally sold as the top 1%, but if we lower the standards, then what's the point?

Something has changed in the algorithm, as instead of the usual potpourri of seller levels on page 1, right now in VO, every single seller is TRS or PRO, with 2 exceptions, both of whom are L2. Encouraging.

Are you saying we should not be concerned with the image of Fiverr and sellers who reflect poorly on the site? That people don't expect great quality form Amazon, they expect the whole spectrum of quality, from top tier to absolute crap, and it is up to you to sift through to find the right sellers and products?

Agree, and you know what, I believe that @smashradio and @vickiespencer hit it on the head with the fact that we see a tremendous amount of sellers here who lie about it, claiming fluency or native levels. So we have probably been worn down over the years by the thousands of forum posts in what is 3rd grade English, yet the profile says English: Native/Bilingual. We'll never fix it, but it does not build the image of quality for Fiverr.

True, but if you are running an English speaking website and allow such sloppiness it it smacks of either laziness, or a lack of attention to quality. It has nothing to do with the % of English speakers on the planet, it has to do with the fact that this is supposedly an English speaking website. Quality is quality, attention to detail is attention to detail.

I just realized what is probably going on. Wanna bet they are letting AI vet and promote people to PRO? Hence the inability to spot poor English skills. We know they are gaga over AI.

Social media was originally a requirement, but no longer. That was when they first launched PRO and the people doing the vetting could not imagine that anyone could be successful in any field without a TikTok account and 10,000 swooning bots posting likes. Again, problematic of dev folks running areas they know nothing about.