nafeysolutions Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 Hello friends,I have a question… do you think the buyers who get into long chatswith you and tell you to send a sample before are more serious orothers are better who place a direct order…Sometimes after sending a sample i feel that I have been fleeced andthe buyer could be a hoax … just trying to extract a free template from me…I am a graphics designer… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uxreview Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 I prefer buyers who talk to me first. That’s a good way for me to vet them and see if they are serious about revamping their website or not.I’ve paused all my gigs with out of office message and take orders on when I’ve talked to them.It won’t probably work with smaller orders.Regarding samples, you should show your past work so it’s almost 0 effort for you. If that’s not enough tgen they can move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nafeysolutions Posted July 26, 2018 Author Share Posted July 26, 2018 I prefer buyers who talk to me first. That’s a good way for me to vet them and see if they are serious about revamping their website or not.I’ve paused all my gigs with out of office message and take orders on when I’ve talked to them.It won’t probably work with smaller orders.Regarding samples, you should show your past work so it’s almost 0 effort for you. If that’s not enough tgen they can move on.But what about the chance theyjust extract a template from you and fly away! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uxreview Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 But what about the chance theyjust extract a template from you and fly away!How would they?I show my past work that I’ve built for someone else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nafeysolutions Posted July 26, 2018 Author Share Posted July 26, 2018 How would they?I show my past work that I’ve built for someone elseSometimes they demand an initial skeleton draft … and I make it for them… because I am a new seller and I am ( frankly speaking ) desperate… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nafeysolutions Posted July 26, 2018 Author Share Posted July 26, 2018 Sometimes they demand an initial skeleton draft … and I make it for them… because I am a new seller and I am ( frankly speaking ) desperate…and sometimes they say . … your past work doesn’t fulfill our requirement’ can you make something ’ a quick draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyaxrex Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 The majority of people who ask me for writing samples don’t even speak English.i.e: hello,could you provide some article that you had wrote,we project need find someone who can write high quality article about blockchain,thanksFollowed by:ha,you can not give away the sample you have been wrote,emmm,which mean you cannot approve yourself, just like POWHow would this person be able to ascertain the quality of any sample I send?Regardless of the gig niche discussed, buyers who need to chat and/or would like to see samples are often the worst to work for. In the majority of cases, they are resellers of your services who don’t know what they really need or even how to interpret their end clients requirements.Discussion & Sample Request Buyers to AvoidIf a buyer wants a discussion but starts asking several questions already covered in your gig description, they just want a discounted rate. If you say no, they will move on. In this case, don’t waste your timeAlways avoid buyers who say they have lots of work for you if you are the right personNever give samples to other Fiverr sellers or buyers from countries on the secret These People are a Nightmare to Work with ListAvoid any discussion with a buyer who can’t say what they want. i.e: “I need content.” Followed by: “It’s for my website.” - (When you explain that you need more information)When to Engage in DiscussionIf a buyer starts a conversation with something like: “Hi, we are a new Stockholm teddybear company and we need a logo for our website,” it will be worth your while entering into further dialog.The client knows what they want and they know how to clearly communicate their brief. What they might not know is how logo design works and this is where you fill in the gaps for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uxreview Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 Sometimes they demand an initial skeleton draft … and I make it for them… because I am a new seller and I am ( frankly speaking ) desperate…I’ve ordered more logos than I can remember from Fiverr and I’ve never asked for a free draft.I pay for mockups, but usually portfolio is enoughIt’s not a rule, but asking for a free draft is often the first red flag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sophiascribe Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 I think we should communicate with the buyers before they place the order as it is a clear cut communication and set up the right expectations among both seller and the buyer.But there are some buyers too, that often go to the gigs directly and place the orders directly without discussing anything with the sellers (that can be a pain at times). Some buyers ignore or don’t read the Gig description carefully and place the “less amount order” for a bigger task. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nafeysolutions Posted July 26, 2018 Author Share Posted July 26, 2018 I’ve ordered more logos than I can remember from Fiverr and I’ve never asked for a free draft.I pay for mockups, but usually portfolio is enoughIt’s not a rule, but asking for a free draft is often the first red flagThanks uxreview… that was what i was trying to establish…and the fact is…I NEVER GOT an order after these chats…I always got orders … when they were just there… directly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nafeysolutions Posted July 26, 2018 Author Share Posted July 26, 2018 The majority of people who ask me for writing samples don’t even speak English.i.e: hello,could you provide some article that you had wrote,we project need find someone who can write high quality article about blockchain,thanksFollowed by:ha,you can not give away the sample you have been wrote,emmm,which mean you cannot approve yourself, just like POWHow would this person be able to ascertain the quality of any sample I send?Regardless of the gig niche discussed, buyers who need to chat and/or would like to see samples are often the worst to work for. In the majority of cases, they are resellers of your services who don’t know what they really need or even how to interpret their end clients requirements.Discussion & Sample Request Buyers to AvoidIf a buyer wants a discussion but starts asking several questions already covered in your gig description, they just want a discounted rate. If you say no, they will move on. In this case, don’t waste your timeAlways avoid buyers who say they have lots of work for you if you are the right personNever give samples to other Fiverr sellers or buyers from countries on the secret These People are a Nightmare to Work with ListAvoid any discussion with a buyer who can’t say what they want. i.e: “I need content.” Followed by: “It’s for my website.” - (When you explain that you need more information)When to Engage in DiscussionIf a buyer starts a conversation with something like: “Hi, we are a new Stockholm teddybear company and we need a logo for our website,” it will be worth your while entering into further dialog.The client knows what they want and they know how to clearly communicate their brief. What they might not know is how logo design works and this is where you fill in the gaps for them.Thanks for these tips…I have saved them and will make good use of them.God bless you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nafeysolutions Posted July 26, 2018 Author Share Posted July 26, 2018 I think we should communicate with the buyers before they place the order as it is a clear cut communication and set up the right expectations among both seller and the buyer.But there are some buyers too, that often go to the gigs directly and place the orders directly without discussing anything with the sellers (that can be a pain at times). Some buyers ignore or don’t read the Gig description carefully and place the “less amount order” for a bigger task.Logically speaking… I think its a healthy activity…But practically…I think I HAVE BEEN fleeced a few times without my even realizing it… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nafeysolutions Posted July 26, 2018 Author Share Posted July 26, 2018 I think we should communicate with the buyers before they place the order as it is a clear cut communication and set up the right expectations among both seller and the buyer.But there are some buyers too, that often go to the gigs directly and place the orders directly without discussing anything with the sellers (that can be a pain at times). Some buyers ignore or don’t read the Gig description carefully and place the “less amount order” for a bigger task.without discussing anything with the sellers (that can be a pain at times). Some buyers ignore or don’t read the Gig description carefully and place the “less amount order” for a bigger task.… Yes I agree it can be a pain… they resort to complaining later… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nafeysolutions Posted July 26, 2018 Author Share Posted July 26, 2018 I think we should communicate with the buyers before they place the order as it is a clear cut communication and set up the right expectations among both seller and the buyer.But there are some buyers too, that often go to the gigs directly and place the orders directly without discussing anything with the sellers (that can be a pain at times). Some buyers ignore or don’t read the Gig description carefully and place the “less amount order” for a bigger task.I had a buyer once… .who ordered ‘critical analysis’ on myplain and simple proofreading gig… and then became rude and threatenedwith a bad review… I had to cancel that order to save my skin…my order completion rate is suffering ever since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sophiascribe Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 I had a buyer once… .who ordered ‘critical analysis’ on myplain and simple proofreading gig… and then became rude and threatenedwith a bad review… I had to cancel that order to save my skin…my order completion rate is suffering ever since.You are right!We as sellers, have to take care of too many things:Buyer reviewsCustomer satisfactionOrder completion/cancellation rateOn-time delivery/modification requests Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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