Should TRS offer any services at $5?

[gina_riley2]

I’m not sure what a bad buyer really is

I remember when working in sales, it would happen now and then that a certain salesperson would complain about a customer - that they were too fussy, wouldn’t make up their mind, took too long, asked too many questions etc - they said they were a bad buyer. What should be considered is that in the business I was in, an average sale would be around €10k on which we would make a gross profit of approx €4k. Built into the price was the fact that our salespeople were SUPPOSED TO spend several days with a client - going out to their home if necessary.

Those customers he referred to as bad, were actually quite right - they SHOULD make the most of our knowledge and expertise as they were going to pay for it.

A lot of complaints about “bad buyers” that I see on the forum are unjustified and I can see a certain number of them simply as having become frustrated with a poor quality service. Of course, depending on what they are paying, they may be expecting too much but I think there are often cases where a seller has underpriced a job, is not willing to do the work necessary at that price and therefore blames the buyer. The real issue there is that the seller underpriced it - the buyer may have been prepared to pay more but wasnt asked to. For things like a logo design, I can’t imagine how there could ever be one produced that does not require SOME modifications. Same with most graphic work. Unlike when buying writing services, most buyers cannot make adjustments themselves so they have to request modifications. This fact should be built into the price by the seller and if they dont then the issue is not that it is a bad buyer, it is a bad seller - or more accurately, a seller who is bad at business.

Those customers he referred to as bad, were actually quite right - they SHOULD make the most of our knowledge and expertise as they were going to pay for it.

The more I pay, the pickier I become, the more questions I ask and harsher my reviews. I don’t expect the moon and stars for $5 or $10. I think most of us are the same.

I agree with you in every respect.

The thing is that many folks want to become TRS or PRO just because they feel like they can charge more for delivering the exact same thing.

Charging less than when 1st starting out is acceptable but the price shouldn’t be based on the level but the type if gig and the quality.

Sellers want to get paid more and buyers want to pay less. The forum is dominated by sellers so it’s understandable that everyone talks negatively about the so called “cheap buyers.”

I think people forget everyone here is a buyer.

[uxreview]

I’m tired of the “Raise your price and you’ll get rid of bad buyers!”

Not ALL Buyers are bad, you’re like one of the well-known exceptions! 😉 However, I’ve noticed after increasing my rates the bargain basement ‘type’ sellers disappeared in the wind.

There are all types of buyers, and so all types of sellers can coexist happily.

I couldn’t agree more.

A lot of complaints about “bad buyers” that I see on the forum are unjustified and I can see a certain number of them simply as having become frustrated with a poor quality service.

There are bad 🍎 Sellers out there, making ‘us’ good sellers look like rotten 🍎. I’ve placed multiple orders over the past 2-weeks. Hit a snag with a few Sellers, that I would NEVER purchase a gig from again. Professionalism is lacking and the quality is subpar. Some folks have been here since the beginning of time. I guess they’ve gotten so comfortable with the way things are that changing or UPing their game is not an option. I mean, Fiverr has been around for like 8-years? The $5 mentality is a hard habit to kick!

I guess they’ve gotten so comfortable with the way things are that changing or UPing their game is not an option

Exactly. There are sellers who can’t be even bothered with questions. They handle their orders as fast food and that’s why $5 is fair price for them.

[newsmike]

Supply and demand, Mike. Gotta embrace it.

Indeed, but embracing supply and demand is not about a race to the bottom. It is about seeing who wants what and how much they are willing to pay for it. Some will willingly pay more for something which is presented better, where communication is increased, where follow-up and aftersales is available; others will never pay more for these things but get frustrated and be difficult to deal with as their expectations are unrealistic; still more will be satisfied with getting a bare bones service.

There are all types of buyers, and so all types of sellers can coexist happily. While I urge a lot of people to increase their prices, the bottom line is that some people shouldn’t because they don’t offer the service expected at that price point.

Getting lots of 5-star reviews for $5 work does not necessarily mean the work is worth $10. It means that people were happy with the service at that price point. Sellers should experiment with price increases, look into whether their service is worth what they want to charge, buy from others in their industry and see whether their service matches up to that of the higher prices sellers.

One thing is for sure - the vast majority of Fiverr sellers sell for less than market rates. However, Fiverr at this point is almost like a sub-market of its own where lower prices are the norm. This is changing gradually, led by the Pro sellers and those who are working towards that direction. Unfortunately, it seems like the ones who are slowest to change are the ones who should be leading it - those who have been here for 4+ years. They could make a dramatic difference by setting their prices higher. I mean, so many sellers have not increased their prices in 4-5 years - inflation alone should have added 20+% to the cost but it hasnt happened. Let’s not forget that Fiverr really began at a time of global recession and so price was THE ONLY factor people were concerned with - the world is different now.

Eventually, (if it hasnt happened already), those sellers will be left behind as the buyers with realistic expectations and higher budgets that Fiverr is now targeting will simply not buy from people with such low prices as they seem unrealistic. Buyers often reject a seller based on having too low a price - I know I do.

Unfortunately, it seems like the ones who are slowest to change are the ones who should be leading it

@eoinfinnegan has condensed this entire discussion to its essence. This is about the most accomplished sellers leading the race to the bottom.

[newsmike]

Those customers he referred to as bad, were actually quite right - they SHOULD make the most of our knowledge and expertise as they were going to pay for it.

The more I pay, the pickier I become, the more questions I ask and harsher my reviews. I don’t expect the moon and stars for $5 or $10. I think most of us are the same.

I agree with you in every respect.

The thing is that many folks want to become TRS or PRO just because they feel like they can charge more for delivering the exact same thing.

Charging less than when 1st starting out is acceptable but the price shouldn’t be based on the level but the type if gig and the quality.

Sellers want to get paid more and buyers want to pay less. The forum is dominated by sellers so it’s understandable that everyone talks negatively about the so called “cheap buyers.”

I think people forget everyone here is a buyer.

The thing is that many folks want to become TRS or PRO just because they feel like they can charge more for delivering the exact same thing.

Imagine that, people work their tails off to get to the highest levels, and then expect to charge more.

[newsmike]

I guess they’ve gotten so comfortable with the way things are that changing or UPing their game is not an option

Exactly. There are sellers who can’t be even bothered with questions. They handle their orders as fast food and that’s why $5 is fair price for them.

Exactly. There are sellers who can’t be even bothered with questions. They handle their orders as fast food and that’s why $5 is fair price for them.

I would imagine that if they offered such poor service that they would not answer a question, then they would have many poor reviews, which would then cause their rating to drop below 4.8. This would cause a demotion, which would place them in a group of sellers that we are not discussing. This conversation is about mature sellers with thousands of great reviews who could easily raise their prices, yet don’t.

[gina_riley2]

Should TRS offer any services at $5?

Why not? There are plenty of sellers offering a service that’s worth $5. Some of them are not even interested raising their prices because it takes them 10 minutes to do the job.

When it comes to VO, this is probably one of the safest services you can buy here. You can listen to the samples and if you provide your own script then there’s not much that can go wrong. When I hire a VO I start from the lower end as well. If I like the voice quality from the samples and they have at least a few decent reviews then I won’t bother to look further. I don’t care if the seller has 50 or 500 reviews. I usually don’t even look at the badge they have.

I only pay more if I need a specific accent or a higher quality.

However, if I need a logo design then I’m afraid to hire someone for $5. I can’t trust their portfolio because logos can be stolen. They can easily give me a template logo without me knowing about it (image reverse check can only do so much). Nowadays I won’t even hire someone for less than $40 to create a logo. I know there are no guarantees, but this seems a rather fair price here to get a logo that’s not stolen.

When it comes to VO, this is probably one of the safest services you can buy here. You can listen to the samples and if you provide your own script then there’s not much that can go wrong. When I hire a VO I start from the lower end as well. If I like the voice quality from the samples and they have at least a few decent reviews then I won’t bother to look further. I don’t care if the seller has 50 or 500 reviews. I usually don’t even look at the badge they have.

I do the exact same thing. This is one of the few categories that I never have to worry about it being stolen or plaigerized. I haven’t bought many but getting ready to buy a few more for my website.

There are some that have amazing singing voice that start at only $5 or $10.

[eoinfinnegan]

Those customers he referred to as bad, were actually quite right - they SHOULD make the most of our knowledge and expertise as they were going to pay for it.

The more I pay, the pickier I become, the more questions I ask and harsher my reviews. I don’t expect the moon and stars for $5 or $10. I think most of us are the same.

I agree with you in every respect.

The thing is that many folks want to become TRS or PRO just because they feel like they can charge more for delivering the exact same thing.

Charging less than when 1st starting out is acceptable but the price shouldn’t be based on the level but the type if gig and the quality.

Sellers want to get paid more and buyers want to pay less. The forum is dominated by sellers so it’s understandable that everyone talks negatively about the so called “cheap buyers.”

I think people forget everyone here is a buyer.

The thing is that many folks want to become TRS or PRO just because they feel like they can charge more for delivering the exact same thing.

That is exactly it although there are many differences between TRS and PRO. After all, a PRO’s service/product has been vetted which makes a big difference. A TRS might just be the very best at making logos which are worth $5. Ask them to create something worth $20 and they are stumped.

At the same time, if someone is TRS then CS will have had a look at their profile and checked their activity (somewhat - no idea how thorough that is) so there should be a level of security about their service but not necessarily on their product.

I know of some TRS SEO sellers (who were recently banned) and they delivered absolute rubbish which was useless for SEO and they got away with it for 6-7 YEARS! 140k+ sales!

Their product was not checked by Fiverr because that is not done for TRS assessment.

[newsmike]

The thing is that many folks want to become TRS or PRO just because they feel like they can charge more for delivering the exact same thing.

That is exactly it although there are many differences between TRS and PRO. After all, a PRO’s service/product has been vetted which makes a big difference. A TRS might just be the very best at making logos which are worth $5. Ask them to create something worth $20 and they are stumped.

At the same time, if someone is TRS then CS will have had a look at their profile and checked their activity (somewhat - no idea how thorough that is) so there should be a level of security about their service but not necessarily on their product.

I know of some TRS SEO sellers (who were recently banned) and they delivered absolute rubbish which was useless for SEO and they got away with it for 6-7 YEARS! 140k+ sales!

Their product was not checked by Fiverr because that is not done for TRS assessment.

I know of some TRS SEO sellers (who were recently banned) and they delivered absolute rubbish which was useless for SEO and they got away with it for 6-7 YEARS! 140k+ sales!

Amazing that they had such a volume of sales with a garbage product. Didn’t the quality reflect in their reviews or ratings? Or perhaps people just jump for low price/lots of orders in queue?

[gina_riley2]

The thing is that many folks want to become TRS or PRO just because they feel like they can charge more for delivering the exact same thing.

That is exactly it although there are many differences between TRS and PRO. After all, a PRO’s service/product has been vetted which makes a big difference. A TRS might just be the very best at making logos which are worth $5. Ask them to create something worth $20 and they are stumped.

At the same time, if someone is TRS then CS will have had a look at their profile and checked their activity (somewhat - no idea how thorough that is) so there should be a level of security about their service but not necessarily on their product.

I know of some TRS SEO sellers (who were recently banned) and they delivered absolute rubbish which was useless for SEO and they got away with it for 6-7 YEARS! 140k+ sales!

Their product was not checked by Fiverr because that is not done for TRS assessment.

That is exactly it although there are many differences between TRS and PRO. After all, a PRO’s service/product has been vetted which makes a big difference. A TRS might just be the very best at making logos which are worth $5. Ask them to create something worth $20 and they are stumped.

I think you may have misunderstood me.

Pros and TRS have been vetted so them charging more is not my issue.

What I’m saying is that some only want the title of PRO or TRS because they want justification to charge more. They don’t need a badge to raise prices, they can do that now, regardless of level.

Charge what you’re worth not what badge you may or may not hold.

[eoinfinnegan]

I know of some TRS SEO sellers (who were recently banned) and they delivered absolute rubbish which was useless for SEO and they got away with it for 6-7 YEARS! 140k+ sales!

Amazing that they had such a volume of sales with a garbage product. Didn’t the quality reflect in their reviews or ratings? Or perhaps people just jump for low price/lots of orders in queue?

Didn’t the quality reflect in their reviews or ratings? Or perhaps people just jump for low price/lots of orders in queue?

They got some bad ones but the majority of their clients simply dont have a clue about SEO. In addition, they told people that their service would take 40 days to take effect - reviews cant be left after 30 days! I had this out with the seller on another forum and I summarized it by saying -

None of your 100k reviews came from people who had actually seen results!

Basically, they would deliver and be nice, polite and complimentary so why wouldn’t the buyer leave a five star review?

[newsmike]

Didn’t the quality reflect in their reviews or ratings? Or perhaps people just jump for low price/lots of orders in queue?

They got some bad ones but the majority of their clients simply dont have a clue about SEO. In addition, they told people that their service would take 40 days to take effect - reviews cant be left after 30 days! I had this out with the seller on another forum and I summarized it by saying -

None of your 100k reviews came from people who had actually seen results!

Basically, they would deliver and be nice, polite and complimentary so why wouldn’t the buyer leave a five star review?

they told people that their service would take 40 days to take effect - reviews cant be left after 30 days!

Doesn’t TOS address the over 30 days to see results issue?

[eoinfinnegan]

they told people that their service would take 40 days to take effect - reviews cant be left after 30 days!

Doesn’t TOS address the over 30 days to see results issue?

Yep, and I have reported many gigs for exactly this reason.

Dunno if that’s what got them in the end or if it was something else.

[newsmike]

Yep, and I have reported many gigs for exactly this reason.

Dunno if that’s what got them in the end or if it was something else.

Found it:

Gigs may be removed by Fiverr for violations to these Terms of Service, which may include (but are not limited to) the following violations and/or materials:

Illegal or Fraudulent services

Copyright Infringement, Trademark Infringement, and violation of a third party’s terms of service reported through our Intellectual Property Claims Policy found here

Adult oriented services, Pornographic, Inappropriate/Obscene

Intentional copies of Gigs

Spam, Nonsense, or Violent Gigs

Gigs misleading to buyers

Reselling of regulated goods

Services that extend beyond 30 days of service duration

There goes my “$5 for lottery numbers GUARANTEED to hit in the next 5 years” gig.

[eoinfinnegan]

Found it:

Gigs may be removed by Fiverr for violations to these Terms of Service, which may include (but are not limited to) the following violations and/or materials:

Illegal or Fraudulent services

Copyright Infringement, Trademark Infringement, and violation of a third party’s terms of service reported through our Intellectual Property Claims Policy found here

Adult oriented services, Pornographic, Inappropriate/Obscene

Intentional copies of Gigs

Spam, Nonsense, or Violent Gigs

Gigs misleading to buyers

Reselling of regulated goods

Services that extend beyond 30 days of service duration

There goes my “$5 for lottery numbers GUARANTEED to hit in the next 5 years” gig.

So the thing is, TOS is a little obscure on what that actually means.

What if the service takes 10 days to complete but the results take 40 days?

I think the difference is very much in the wording. If you say something like “I will get you page 1 ranking” then the service is getting page 1 ranking (regardless of how you do it) and that has to happen within 30 days. If you say “I will give you 2.5 bazillion backlinks” and explain the reason for backlinks is to get high search results then the service is providing the backlinks. The RESULT of the service is a separate thing.

[uxreview]

Exactly. There are sellers who can’t be even bothered with questions. They handle their orders as fast food and that’s why $5 is fair price for them.

I would imagine that if they offered such poor service that they would not answer a question, then they would have many poor reviews, which would then cause their rating to drop below 4.8. This would cause a demotion, which would place them in a group of sellers that we are not discussing. This conversation is about mature sellers with thousands of great reviews who could easily raise their prices, yet don’t.

I would imagine that if they offered such poor service that they would not answer a question, then they would have many poor reviews, which would then cause their rating to drop below 4.8.

It’s not always the case. I can see Eoin already explained it with SEO example.

I had a similar experience with TRS who was selling template logos without licenses. Reporting him made no difference and I wasn’t able to leave a review because they canceled the order and I didn’t care to leave my money on the table to give a negative review. He doesn’t have a cancellation problem either because he gets plenty of orders and most customers are happy to pay $5 even for a below average service.

Some TRS sell their service for $5 because it’s worth only $5 🙂

[misscrystal]

The level of communication and customer service a buyer can expect is one of the main things that separates the best sellers from the worst.

I have heard of someone in my own category with the highest prices of all, who does not answer questions as soon as the order is delivered.

My clients know that they can get a reasonably prompt answer to anything at any time.

[newsmike]

I would imagine that if they offered such poor service that they would not answer a question, then they would have many poor reviews, which would then cause their rating to drop below 4.8.

It’s not always the case. I can see Eoin already explained it with SEO example.

I had a similar experience with TRS who was selling template logos without licenses. Reporting him made no difference and I wasn’t able to leave a review because they canceled the order and I didn’t care to leave my money on the table to give a negative review. He doesn’t have a cancellation problem either because he gets plenty of orders and most customers are happy to pay $5 even for a below average service.

Some TRS sell their service for $5 because it’s worth only $5 🙂

It’s not always the case. I can see Eoin already explained it with SEO example.

And it caught up with them and they were banned.

[fastcopywriter]

I’d rather get orders at $10 than no orders at $50

That’s the point, the misconception that business stops at higher rates. If that were the case then how do you explain that there are tons of sellers priced way higher? Surely if they were not making more than when they were priced at $5, they would revert.

Supply and demand, Mike. Gotta embrace it.

Nah, the sweatshop mentality is not for me.

That’s the point, the misconception that business stops at higher rates.

It’s not a misconception. The rules of supply and demand rule the world. If you make something expensive, only rich people buy it, and sometimes not even they since the rich are often smarter with money than others. The rich tend to be more demanding buyers and put up with less BS. This month I only made $520 on Fiverr, so why would I buy anything for $500? Even $50 is too much for me.

how do you explain that there are tons of sellers priced way higher?

Simple, some people refuse to work for less than a certain amount. I for example hate working for $5, I will lower my prices to $5 only in moments of desperation, and when sales pick up, it’s back to $10 again. I follow the market, others don’t care about the market, they simply price it at what they think it’s worth, and if they only get few orders, they’re happy.

Others know how to market their gigs online and are driving a lot of traffic.

Still, you can’t have one-size-fits-all rule because each seller is different from the rest, so what works for one might not work for the other. I know a competitor who has shirtless pictures of himself in his gig images, he’s an old guy, very ballsy, and only wants to deal with American clients. He also insists on a telephone conversation.

Should I follow him? Absolutely not. I hate talking to strangers on the phone, I want a GLOBAL audience, and since you’re not paying me for my body, you have no right to see me in a bathing suit.

This competitor has his way of doing business, I have mine. You can learn from others, but in the end, you have to do what’s right for you.

[newsmike]

That’s the point, the misconception that business stops at higher rates.

It’s not a misconception. The rules of supply and demand rule the world. If you make something expensive, only rich people buy it, and sometimes not even they since the rich are often smarter with money than others. The rich tend to be more demanding buyers and put up with less BS. This month I only made $520 on Fiverr, so why would I buy anything for $500? Even $50 is too much for me.

how do you explain that there are tons of sellers priced way higher?

Simple, some people refuse to work for less than a certain amount. I for example hate working for $5, I will lower my prices to $5 only in moments of desperation, and when sales pick up, it’s back to $10 again. I follow the market, others don’t care about the market, they simply price it at what they think it’s worth, and if they only get few orders, they’re happy.

Others know how to market their gigs online and are driving a lot of traffic.

Still, you can’t have one-size-fits-all rule because each seller is different from the rest, so what works for one might not work for the other. I know a competitor who has shirtless pictures of himself in his gig images, he’s an old guy, very ballsy, and only wants to deal with American clients. He also insists on a telephone conversation.

Should I follow him? Absolutely not. I hate talking to strangers on the phone, I want a GLOBAL audience, and since you’re not paying me for my body, you have no right to see me in a bathing suit.

This competitor has his way of doing business, I have mine. You can learn from others, but in the end, you have to do what’s right for you.

Your point would work if my argument was that everyone should have sky high prices. My point however, was pointing out how silly it is that sellers who could easily raise rates (as in the 5 star sellers in my category with 10K reviews pricing at $5 for 150 words with 24 hour delivery) refuse to do so.

Let me ask you a question, do you think there is a restaurant in the world that would choose to sell entrees at $10 if they had earned a Michelin star? Of course not. The entrees go to $40 for starters. Again, my example is the fact that some sellers have the Michelin star (perception vs reality in marketing is another thread) and choose to keep selling tacos 3 for a buck.

There is plenty of demand for both $5 gigs and plenty for high end gigs. But to be in the small group that can easily justify the higher rate and remain a discount shop is just not good business sense.

You bring up the choice of catering to the “rich”. Let me give you an example. You can work at either the Kia dealership or the BMW dealership. Making up numbers for the sake of argument, would you prefer to make $500 commission on each car, and have to sell 20 per month to make $10,000?

Or would you prefer to sell four 7 series BMW’s and only have to sell 4 per month to earn the same $10K. Remember that means entertaining 20 customers vs 4, haggling with 20 vs 4, paperwork for 20 vs 4, etc, etc.

The same is true for fiverr work. To earn $500, I can read 1,000 words at my current rate, or 10,000 words. That’s 10 times the labor, 10 times the time in studio.

[omanbux]

My all the gigs are starting from $5. 😀

[fastcopywriter]

Your point would work if my argument was that everyone should have sky high prices. My point however, was pointing out how silly it is that sellers who could easily raise rates (as in the 5 star sellers in my category with 10K reviews pricing at $5 for 150 words with 24 hour delivery) refuse to do so.

Let me ask you a question, do you think there is a restaurant in the world that would choose to sell entrees at $10 if they had earned a Michelin star? Of course not. The entrees go to $40 for starters. Again, my example is the fact that some sellers have the Michelin star (perception vs reality in marketing is another thread) and choose to keep selling tacos 3 for a buck.

There is plenty of demand for both $5 gigs and plenty for high end gigs. But to be in the small group that can easily justify the higher rate and remain a discount shop is just not good business sense.

You bring up the choice of catering to the “rich”. Let me give you an example. You can work at either the Kia dealership or the BMW dealership. Making up numbers for the sake of argument, would you prefer to make $500 commission on each car, and have to sell 20 per month to make $10,000?

Or would you prefer to sell four 7 series BMW’s and only have to sell 4 per month to earn the same $10K. Remember that means entertaining 20 customers vs 4, haggling with 20 vs 4, paperwork for 20 vs 4, etc, etc.

The same is true for fiverr work. To earn $500, I can read 1,000 words at my current rate, or 10,000 words. That’s 10 times the labor, 10 times the time in studio.

$10 if they had earned a Michelin star? Of course not. The entrees go to $40 for starters.

Michellin-rated restaurants are rare and can afford to charge high prices. Here you can have 1,400 reviews and get beaten by the guy with 400 reviews, even 50 reviews.

Or would you prefer to sell four 7 series BMW’s and only have to sell 4 per month to earn the same $10K.

Selling 20 Kia’s might be easier than 7 BMW’s. The Kia buyer is priced-oriented, so if you can get him low monthly payments, you’ve got the sale. The BMW buyer is seeking luxury, prestige, style, performance, status, etc, and has many options to choose from.

To earn $500, I can read 1,000 words at my current rate

At least you’re getting paid to read. Amazon has a voice over program where the artists doesn’t get paid unless the writer does a buyout, instead, commissions from book sales are split. If the book doesn’t sell well, the artist might be earning $1 a month if anything at all.

This benefits writers who don’t have the money to hire a VO artist.

Overall, if a TRS is order-driven, he should definitely sell at $5, $10, $20, whatever gets the orders coming. Besides, the whole point of being TRS is having your special section on search.

If I search “Facebook ad,” this is what I get

965 New Seller

179 Level 1

161 Level 2

5 Top Rated Seller

When I was TRS, I would get orders from people that only hire TRS, now I can’t even find my gig on search. I’ve tried searching under different keywords, it doesn’t work. Maybe it’s my gig image, maybe it’s blue in a sea of blue. Can you believe that “facebook copywriter” delivers no search results? I’m complaining to CS right now, they told me to wait 24 hours, but I still can’t find my gig, and it’s one of my tags.

I wonder if it’s a bug?

[newsmike]

$10 if they had earned a Michelin star? Of course not. The entrees go to $40 for starters.

Michellin-rated restaurants are rare and can afford to charge high prices. Here you can have 1,400 reviews and get beaten by the guy with 400 reviews, even 50 reviews.

Or would you prefer to sell four 7 series BMW’s and only have to sell 4 per month to earn the same $10K.

Selling 20 Kia’s might be easier than 7 BMW’s. The Kia buyer is priced-oriented, so if you can get him low monthly payments, you’ve got the sale. The BMW buyer is seeking luxury, prestige, style, performance, status, etc, and has many options to choose from.

To earn $500, I can read 1,000 words at my current rate

At least you’re getting paid to read. Amazon has a voice over program where the artists doesn’t get paid unless the writer does a buyout, instead, commissions from book sales are split. If the book doesn’t sell well, the artist might be earning $1 a month if anything at all.

This benefits writers who don’t have the money to hire a VO artist.

Overall, if a TRS is order-driven, he should definitely sell at $5, $10, $20, whatever gets the orders coming. Besides, the whole point of being TRS is having your special section on search.

If I search “Facebook ad,” this is what I get

965 New Seller

179 Level 1

161 Level 2

5 Top Rated Seller

When I was TRS, I would get orders from people that only hire TRS, now I can’t even find my gig on search. I’ve tried searching under different keywords, it doesn’t work. Maybe it’s my gig image, maybe it’s blue in a sea of blue. Can you believe that “facebook copywriter” delivers no search results? I’m complaining to CS right now, they told me to wait 24 hours, but I still can’t find my gig, and it’s one of my tags.

I wonder if it’s a bug?

I wonder if it’s a bug?

That is really odd. What if you tried that experiment where you create a new gig almost the same as the your top one, and see if it gets traction? I would definitely stay on CS about that.

[fastcopywriter]

I wonder if it’s a bug?

That is really odd. What if you tried that experiment where you create a new gig almost the same as the your top one, and see if it gets traction? I would definitely stay on CS about that.

That’s an interesting suggestion. If I created a gig called I will be your Facebook Copywriter, then the domain would be the same.

Sadly, my current link is copywrite-2-facebook-ads-in-3-days and that doesn’t change even if I change the gig title.

I’m embarrassed I used the word “copywrite” as a verb, don’t know what I was thinking, or maybe Fiverr changed that for me? Who knows?

[misscrystal]

If you want to talk about your ability to ‘copy write’ something, you are referring to the task of writing the document. Note that ‘copy write’ is two words and not a single form ‘copywrite’. ‘Copy write’ is a minor tautology, which is why there is no single word form. It is enough to say you will write an article rather than say you will copy write it.

Despite this, there are single words such as copywriter, copywriting, and so on, that refer to the person completing the task or the act of producing copy.

from jonathancrossfield . com

Copywrite is not a word.