misscrystal

This is good to know. Libya, Sudan, Somalia, N. Korea, Iran, Lebanon, Syria, Cuba U.S. companies cannot do business with these countries.

Fiver blocks some countries so that might be the reason. I recall this being mentioned before. Lots of internet companies do this. Some do it for security reasons.

Not really. I would like to know if I may not be able to work on Fiverr, if I decide to live elsewhere. It’s a pretty big issue for a lot of sellers. Some kind of official guidelines or statement is simply a reasonable thing to expect. - Regardless of who a person is, what they do, or where they are from. People tell fiverr when they change countries and fiverr is fine with that. What happened in this case isn’t something that we know all the details about. That’s what I meant by “making too much of this”. I meant this particular case. This seller being banned isn’t going to result in bad PR.

And that’s part of the reason why it still has such a dog eared reputation among non-Fiverr freelancers. It costs nothing to be open and transparent. When people and organizations aren’t, it’s usually because they do fear some kind of backlash. I don’t think they care too much about what people think about this person being banned. You’re making too much out of it.

Why are you arguing with me about all this?

Yeah, and hence again it all comes back to a transparency issue. This situation could have been completely avoided if Fiverr had posted clear notice of ID verification requirements and barred nationalities upfront. Instead, they have let a user waste time working when they could have just passed over Fiverr and focused their energy on more sustainable endeavors. I can think of reasons why Fiverr might not want to let details like blacklists for certain countries or the need for ID documents to match countries where users are located out of the bag, However, I can can also see a pretty huge negative PR storm brewing because of such obfuscation also… :thinking: I mean what if Wyclef Jean only has his Haitian passport on hand when he gets asked to verify his identity? This has been a recurring issue for over a year now. It really is a bit of a joke how there are still any questions at all concerning ID verification. I don’t see that coming. Fiverr can ban who it wants. It is a private company and doesn’t have to explain why it banned someone at all. And this isn’t like that voice actor who was so well known. There might even be things we don’t know about.

I don’t know why companies do what they do. I’m just guessing. One company does one thing and another company does another thing. Or it might have zero to do with anything, they just did it because your ID doesn’t match your location. Silicon Valley is different from Israel also. There are millions of Iranians in the US. Should we be talking about this? Or maybe there is more that we don’t know. All we can do is guess.

US and Israel seem to be in agreement on this. It’s not in other countries because it’s just a US and Israeli policy. They can’t put things like this in the TOS, and anyway we are just speculating. Who really knows? Op please don’t keep hounding CS about this. I’m sorry this happened to you but it won’t do any good to keep pressing them.

I assumed it was because many in the U.S. speak and write in a dialect not recognized as proper English, and not understood widely even in much of the U.S.

OP what country was showing on your profile? Uk? What country shows on your passport? Turkey? Iran?

Remember you can’t trick the system, so don’t even try. :policeman:

That explains why I only get new orders after I deliver an order. The number of orders in my queues are wrong for all my gigs.

They are mistaken. It’s a shame they spread wrong information to people. It probably does help to read the forum though if English is not your first language. At least you would get in some practice in English.

I wish every seller on fiverr understood this.

Wow that’s impressive communications on your part frank. This is interesting. You seem to be totally on top of this.

If I were you, I’d just avoid working with this buyer. However, to answer the point in question, if you deliver by uploading a file and sending it via the Fiverr delivery system, you are not classed as working for hire. I offer writing. Where I am based (and in most other tax jurisdictions, I am obliged to pay VAT on any document I physically or electronically deliver to a client. This is because I am creating and delivering something of value. Conversely, if I offered to work with buyers onsite and typed an article directly onto their website rather than delivering a file, I would not be obliged to pay VAT on that order. This is because I am not delivering a physical item, I am providing a service and essentially “working for hire.” Throw that at your buyer and see how they like it 😉. (Don’t really.) As for how this applies in practice to Fiverr TOS, the last time I looked, Fiverr does say that all work belongs to buyers on delivery. However, TOS also states that some sellers may charge commercial rights extras for some services. While your buyer may decide to blow smoke through their ears and argue they don’t need to pay for commercial rights, it is likely that they would not pursue this matter in court (given your prices). If I were you, I would simply avoid working with this buyer, as you don’t really know what they are trying to maneuver you into by acting the way they are. My guess would be that even if they do purchase necessary rights, they may come back later insisting that they now own the rights to the overall illustration style you have used in their project. As such, they may ask you for a refund (because you are obviously still offering similar style drawings to other buyers), or they may even insist that you stop offering your service altogether. Refuse to work with them, cancel if they do order, and block them. That’s what I would do. ^^^^ That’s sensible advice. No need to work with problem buyers like this.

That business about getting the legal team involved sounds in my layman’s opinion like it’s an attempt to intimidate you into compliance. I think the TOS are clear on this matter also. I looked at your first two gigs and didn’t see an option to get commercial or copyright extras. I would assume, if I were buying your gig, that they were included?

It always goes up and down, all the time.

That is surprising. Even though the main language of South America is Spanish (except for Brazil, Guyana, Suriname, Aruba, Belize, Curacao, Haiti, etc), people do need services in English. So I reckon you will get international orders soon enough. I get them because I’m bilingual, and sometimes I use one or two tags in Spanish. I think there is a language barrier for most of the S. American countries. It took forever for me to start getting sales from there. There is probably less English spoken in S. America than most other places.

I hope French Canada doesn’t get any big ideas from that. I know they don’t like being part of Canada. Or Texas for that matter. For a short time, Key West in Florida declared itself a separate country from the US. It renamed itself the Conch Republic.

Western Sahara is a country? And there are two Republics of Congo? This is amazing.

My top five are: US: 4039 sales Canada: 265 sales UK Australia India As you can see, US is by far the biggest purchaser of spells. It outsells the rest of the world combined. I read that the biggest users of fiverr are from: India and Pakistan. Which is surprising considering the statistics of where sales come from.

And the entire island of Papua New Guinea (both sides), too! 😳 I have both sides of that island but I’m missing a country in Central America, I think it’s El Salvador. I think Cuba will be the most impossible. I had someone contact me who wanted to make a purchase who is incarcerated today. ❗

@cre8iveartwork You’ve got Greenland and Mongolia! I’m so jealous. 😄

It took me years to get sales in S. American countries and I still have about five that I’ve never had a sale in. I know more about geography than I ever did from this map at least.