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Thanks for deleting my reply to Smash! Your finger can smear all over the delete button of this as well while your eyes glaze over important details in the post above that really should be read. But no, I am definitely more important and you should focus on my impotent yapping instead. Look at that; a Fiverr millionaire pops out of the woodwork! Since he's better than me, let me quote something relevant that staff will probably continue to ignore. How's that going to work for going upmarket? Remember, lots of people are leaving. Or starting much more profitable businesses away from Fiverr and not bringing that stuff to Fvierr because apparently, the talents not here. What was it Fasulo said (hey, you're deleting this anyway)? This place is like trainer wheels for freelancers? I have to say, that did make me smile. The only thing that isn't clear is whether mark is refering to Fiverr or its sellers. I'm gonna go with both. Who cares about my opinion anyway? Not anyone here, since they'll never see it!

My greatest achievement today is that I'm not giving up. This is the kind of thing that people support usually. Grit. Determination. Against all the odds. But this isn't a Hollywood movie, is it? It's a place where the biggest achievement to celebrate is apparently "I signed up to Fiverr". Tell me, does anyone dare tell the dear leader that he's wrong sometimes? I get the impression he's a man who doesn't like being told no. I mean, I've met him.

Wow, tough audience. May poles aren't allowed, worker solidarity not allowed... psychological experiments not allowed. Just... happy days? Come now Fiverr. This day is soaked in blood.

I guess you don't want to help him, then? Just tell him to use ChatGPT. That's what SMs tell people to do. No critical analysis really needed.

It helps to grow Fiverr's coffers, more like. BTW, My SPP renewal still says $19. It's May. Has Fiverr heard of false advertising? Consumer law? No?

This is exactly what scammers do. They pretend. It's all a con trick. Con, of course, being short for confidence. Smoke and mirrors...

I disagree with this. Everyone has something and the great disappointment with the modern education system around the world is that it does not prioritize finding that thing that any one individual has. The modern education system is, of course, a relic based on the needs of factory owners in the early 20th century; designed to bring up generations of obedient people who didn't question authority and who had some basic general knowledge. Yes, it has evolved since then, but only because higher education has become a cash cow for greedy elites. But that's another story. We all have something, and we should all be supported in finding that something. However, the world as it is today will never support this. It is governed by money and the need to feed into a system that works on money alone - breaking out of it is very tough. In any case, the whole influencer thing, which is really how the social media/video thing works, is not,obviously, going to work for anyone. Not even micro-influencers. You need a certain skill set. Expertise is a minor thing you can add. We all know that anyone can fake expertise or borrow other people's expertise. The important thing is to sell the illusion and convince people, whether that's advertisers or your fawning audience. EDIT: I struggle to understand why this post was approved but my prior one, which said much the same thing albeit through the lens of social media's destruction of the younger generations minds didn't. I also struggle to see why these posts are somehow more approvable than the... 20-odd other posts I've made in this specific post that have been deleted? Or that the topic I made on this very topic prior to Smash was deleted? Help me to understand you and what you want, so I can post top-notch content, rather than just throwing words at a wall and wondering what's OK and what's not. You might want to fix that editing posts doesn't get the post re-hidden, too. Just sayin'. Seems like a loophole someone could take advantage of. Would you like me to look it up in the documentation for the forum software for you? It certainly helped with the double-posting bug, not that I heard a thanks for that, but I'll let it slide other than mentioning it lots of times.

This is the whole digital marketing hustle/influencer culture at the moment. In the quitting video, you can see it in action. She gives the basic strategy: as soon as you have a little experience, start selling digital products and influencing people. It's a modern-day pyramid scheme that requires a certain "cult of celebrity" to work, and, not to put to fine a point on it, requires a certain kind of personality and looks. The thing that worries me is that generations of people are growing up believing that this is a viable career choice. It is, but it's like any other career that depends on fame and fortune. It's not one where just hard work will get you anywhere. Surely this is OK to approve. EDIT: just so anyone knows, 95% of my posts are being not approved at the moment on any subject I write. This includes on topic and helpful comments. I've made approximately 20 - 30 posts on here, and this is, I think the only one visible. I also made a post on this very subject last night before smash did. Didn't reveal the name of the person. Said pretty much the same stuff. I've said stuff under here. Let me just add that McDonald's is a real estate empire. They make a huge amount from real estate. It's not the burgers. That's like the front. Anyway, it's comments like these - adding extra information to a conversation that mysteriously get deleted. Why? I don't know. For example, in a comment further along in this discussion, I mentioned how digital marketing is often more of a celebrity thing based on a loose pyramid scheme that is wholly dependent on gaming algorithms - algorithms which often affect impressionable people and which are developed by social media companies who care about profits, not people. Visual Studios is right to find the business model iffy - it's socially damaging. Didn't mention Fiverr. Deleted. But if you post it, it's fine. The not-really-a-mystery at all continues. At least they fixed the double post hidden post issue. I told them in another deleted comment that the issue was a plugin. Few hours later, repeated. No thanks, of course. I'm making an assumption that I helped to fix it. They're not terribly interested in the other (less visual) bug I've found, too. Go figure.

He lives in Spain, and I live in Greece. We are both in the EU, which means that we have to abide by EU VAT laws. I don't know what Spain's are like, but I can tell you that here in Greece, you invoice Fiverr, not your buyer, and because Fiverr is a third-party country, you send your invoice without VAT. You also have to make a note refering to the article and specific provision. I never freelanced when I was still in the UK so I have no idea what the regs are there, but I will tell you that if you need an invoice for tax reasons - which you do in GR - then you're not invoicing your buyers. You're invoicing Fiverr. And you're probably going to want an invoice that mentions that no VAT was paid due to whatever thingy of post-Brexit law says so just so the books look tidy. You've already found out that tax people enjoy messing around with people. Why encourage them? Smashradio is quite correct to say that you need(ed) to talk to an accountant. Again, I don't know what UK law requirs, but I do know that most accountants are clueless when it comes to online work. Don't even get me started on the NACE classifications and bewilderment of how exactly I make money online. It sounds to me like your accountant is the same as mine and needs careful explanation of things to help them to help you. I'll be over at Smashradio's house because his mummy might cook some good food. Hopefully not the rotten fish in a can thing that I can't remember how to spell. PS under 16s do pay tax in the UK after their personal allowance runs out. It's contract law you're thinking of, and that's U18. Same in the US.

Temperature should reduce wrong information, but there's also the memory issue (ChatGPT will apparently soon be gifted with user-unique memory and an ability to remember the conversation - we'll see how that goes). The problem I am speaking of is more the copyright issue. It's one thing if you have a small-scale AI that knows everything about you and your business, quite another if you're a "repository" of billions/trillions of words which can't really be sourced from "proper sources" if those sources are copyrighted. Then you're left with stuff like whatever u/callofdoody says on Reddit or some other forum. You don't really want "creativity" for professional answers, you want accuracy. But when the answers are coming from anonymous people who may be using Reddit's own algorithms to game authority rather than share it, stuff becomes a bit trickier. Exhibit A: Fiverr Neo's ongoing inability to produce sellers that match my very clear search parameters. I imagine all this checking would be very costly - perhaps too costly. One of the reasons AI is so beloved is due to its ability to increase "efficiency" and cut costs, with the result often being mediocre output. That's not necessarily bad: there is always room for mediocre output so long as it achieves whatever goals it has to, but the problem with AI in its current state is that it's a case of the emperor's new clothes. Nobody's getting excited about the mediocre content, yet due to the efficiency and time-savings (and duplicity), it is everywhere. This benefits nobody in the end. The reality is - and yeah, Fiverr's identified this - is that humans need to make AI content better. But then we run into the thorns of the whole non-disclosure issue.

Also, just to bring up another point, here's something from an AI newsletter I'm subscribed to. Remember, Reddit has sold out its entire UGC website to Google for use in their own AI. The problem, which has been detailed in blog posts I've shared elsewhere, is this: I'm sure the people who badword this forum have noticed this issue as well. It is telling that even pro-AI newsletters are concerned about the impact of undisclosed AI on forums (no matter who it comes from). They don't quite touch on the wider issue - that this will probably have some impact on Google's already horrific search results. The point being that for people who are writing "technical documents" and who are using AI to assist with this, we are not that far away from a world in which the way that AI is being trained and abused will render it not only more expensive to use (for OpenAI, for example), but also less useful. There is research out there that shows that after a certain point, a lot of AI models degrade. By degrade, I mean what we call hallucinations turn into something worse. I haven't seen anyone else refer to it as "dementia", but it almost looks like an AI version of dementia. How does Fiverr plan to combat this eventuality in its marketplace? I know that the Motley Fool thinks Fiverr is a "great AI pick" but to be fair, the stock market and corporate AI washing is the source of the current AI bubble. What happens when that pops? It's a good question to start thinking about now, because if Fiverr is relying on a bubble to get it out of current issues, where does that leave Fiverr?

Just a question. If UK is allowed to show how Fiverr could use code to handle the QR code stuff, why is my post that suggests how Fiverr could handle "fancy text" not allowed? What is the fundamental difference between the two posts? What makes one acceptable, the other not? EDIT: Thank you for approving this. But at the expense of comments that directly addressed what other users were saying, further discussed the issue, and provided deeper insights to continue the discussion. At the moment, it appears all I can post on this thread is complaints on how other people can post stuff that I can't, which doesn't really help the conversation at all, nor deliver any particularly great insight into the topics at hand.

It was probably the GDPR stuff, to be fair. What I liked about the Motley Fool piece was that it appeared to be written by a human. I didn't agree with any of it and found its conclusion tenuous due to poor research (into how the platform is actually operating ATM), but in this era where humans must navigate through a plethora of fast-paced artificial thought, it's refreshing to see a person publishing their own thoughts. BTW, it looks like OpenAI has released a new version ChatGPT on a "testing" place (not on the OpenAI site) that I will not disclose here, but I'm playing about with it now. It had no idea what the Success Score is because "that's in the future", but the writing wasn't too bad. However, it's also very slow and of course, I've not spent enough time with it to start spotting its giveaway AI phrases. I'm not sharing it here because it will be abused by everyone, and I do not support the wanton abuse of AI tools.

Good for you!

You click on "go to level overview" on your dashboard, then click on the "success score" box, then click on the gig you want to know more about. That is all the information you get. The rest is up for you to divine. Although tbf, you may be in a better place than the rest of us to do so!

The prevailing legal opinion around AI and copyright is that it cannot be copyrighted, since copyright laws focus on human made work. Fiverr's "complex AI services" could be seen as a way of working around this by specifically requiring that humans "improve" the end result of whatever the AI produces, but I don't believe this argument has been tested in court yet. On the whole though, judges and legal professionals tend to view AI negatively (please don't write about how AI can help lawyers without Googling - there are some particularly famous examples of AI flubs in that world). Indeed, if you look at OpenAI, they have several legal actions against them (the NYT is probably the most notable one). One of the reasons Google paid Reddit was so it could (among other things) use Reddits mountain of "high quality" content to train Gemini, and presumably help flesh out SGE. Google has also been fined by French authorities for violating IP rules. Considering AI's ability to hallucinate, should we really be pushing for AI use in domains where small errors can have disastrous outcomes? Medical AI, which Fiverr slipped into its webinar, is one area that I would consider risky, and architecture is another. There are plenty of other verticals where a small mistake has more serious consequences than embarrassment. Since Fiverr, the platform, would be the facilitator of these services, it's not that hard to see how the company may be walking into a future scandal, especially with the high level of sellers who are selling AI services under deception of "human work".

And yet another post deleted. Why am I not allowed to post informative posts, but it's OK for someone immediately above me to suggest a class action lawsuit - something that I haven't suggested at all? My point remains the same. There is every chance that the source page breach is a high risk GDPR breach, which requires disclosure to affected parties. Is there a problem with me suggesting that Fiverr has a legally required duty of care to its users?

So the evidence is still up. archive.org doesn't have a particularly clear policy here (I haven't looked at the linked pages yet), but it appears that their policy is "you can remove it yourself". Not very much going on in the terms: https://archive.org/about/terms.php However, it does mean that there is evidence. Did anyone living in the EU recieve an email about this data breach? I live in Greece, which is in the EU, and I did not. I've checked my emails. GDPR doesn't show up at all, data breach, or "sorry", or "we apologize" or "compromised" or any of the other stock phrases that usually arise when a company does an oopsie and doesn't want a large fine. Somehow, I rather think that GDPR fines will overshadow any extra funds clawed back from "price alignments" to SPP (remember the EU consumer law violation?)

Really? On a post about AI, I'm not allowed to share news about the Motley Fool's article about how Fiverr is one of their author's top picks about AI stock? Am I missing something here? Or was it my mention of Fiverr breaking GDPR? I can't tell.

It seems Fiverr didn't like my last post, which mentioned GDPR. Was it because I used ChatGPT and correctly sourced it, then asked ChatGPT about what the fines were for this sort of thing? EDIT: I'm going to take that immediate approval of this post as a "yes". Thing is, though, I don't remember ever being told by email about this breach that @uk1000 mentioned, which is in itself a breach of GDPR. Fiverr - this isn't about "transparency" in the marketing sense of the word where it can mean whatever you want it to, including nothing at all. It is a legal requirement. As will the EU AI Act be. As EU consumer laws are.

More SM insights (reddit), this time revealing the possibility that only your best selling gig matters. I like the use of the word "appears" which suggests that they have no idea and are just guessing, too. Well worth $40/mo, eh, chaps?

Hi, it's me, the commentphant in the room. The last two resources are paid, Mark. One of them (Seller Plus) just went through a 100% price increase. I'm one of the people cancelling, since I was offered a "locked in" early bird price of $19 until I canceled. At the beginning of this month, Fiverr decided to "align their prices" so that I, along with 200 other sellers, would now have to pay $40/mo. That's an extra $4,000 a month, maximum. Also, since you are an affiliate, I have a question: it seems to me that Learn was removed from the program. Am I missing something, or is it actually removed - if yes, do you know why?

There is a page out there that details information from a page in the help center that used to exist (I found it because I was trying to find a list of Fiverr staff accounts that contact people in the inbox) that has a phone number. https://www.liveagent.com/directory/fiverr-help-desk-contacts/ Needs updating though. But there is a phone number. A phone number that appears anywhere but the Fiverr website.

Well, this will happen if there's an arbitrary 2 week pre-approval process set on people's posts and the posts also all double post. Is this a feature or a bug? Invision - or its users - seems to think its users clicking a lot which definitely isn't the case here (and God, what IS that example forum about?!?!). Anyway, their best guess is "it's plugins". Something's definitely broken though, because it takes about 2-3 minutes of "page loading" for the comment to hidden-post, and then you get the Fiverr is down 😞 page that suggests the whole site has crashed and burned. Since I can definitely replicate this with this comment, I'll paste a screenshot in an edit. If I remember, because I'm going to go and find some other post to speak my brains on rather than wait 5 hours for the forum to detect bad content and crash. I may be the most helpful person under an extended 2-week hidden period ever. Although it's probably a waste of time pointing this out, since not even Invision appears to care that their software is a bit broken.

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