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IDK Donnovan, seems to me like a lot of these staff consults end up with nothing much happening at all. The best use of AI that Fiverr could allow now is to open up API access for Zapier etc. so AI automation workflows could be introduced, but that's not going to happen - not when we have a metric for responses within 24 hours and an "auto responder" that was the height of technical magick in 1994.

That's my memory of it. She was showing how to do it on ChatGPT and there was a Google Docs file open. There was also a lot of waffle before that but I skipped it (I caught the replay after being spammed about it)

Oh, I ain't mad. I loved hearing a human voice for once. And tbf, I am a whirlwind of negativity when the fancy takes me. I just wish that he'd answered my question about what the actual substance of the webinar was since all we've got at the moment is "tech savvy" and "AI experts" which doesn't mean a whole lot. That person doing the AI writing webinar was using rubbish prompts as well. "we're going to ask CGPT to write an article about dogs, and then it's going to outline an outline. Now what I like to do is take each section and get it to write them individually then clean it up a bit, you don't want it to look like you used AI lol". My emotions: 😴🥱😵😳🤨🤦‍♂️

I see you haven't seen my favorite post today (after Levi's).

That's not AI, everyone. That's just old-fashioned copypasta promoting MS Copilot.

That wasn't a very tech savvy thing for you to post. Why are you so negative without giving us a chance to explain ourselves? - Fiverr staff

Egads! I shall be sure to thrash my robot servant for this intolerable! oversight

I liked how the top trends in the US were for LinkedIn stuff. Related to tech/general layoffs as a result of AI? Ask not for whom the bell tolls...

As the forum rules state that use of GPT should always be announced, here is my entry. This took me about 30 seconds to create from beginning to end. If anyone would like to hire me, my rates start at a very reasonable $125. In Fiverr's tight grip, AI dreams twisted and sold— Creativity weeps.

I just checked the marketplace. There are some very affordable thought leadership writers there. Perhaps in summer, or whenever the next one is due, Fiverr could consider having one of them write their piece? Of course, might be a bit risky as they may not disclose that they use AI, which... kinda destroys the point. Funny story: when I was in TLV, many moons ago, I remember staff proudly showing me all this seller stuff everywhere - "made on Fiverr". Is that still a thing, or is it now "made by AI"? I do wonder, lately....

Here's the press release and here's the landing page for the Spring 2024 Business Trends Index report. It's all about how lawyers and stuff want AI. Complex AI, of course. Cool sounding AI. The kind of AI people are interested in. I didn't spot anything about businesses seeking Pro AI writers who copypasta GPT articles without disclosing for $400, but that's probably par for the course in what is essentially a thought leadership marketing document. Of course, it was written by AI. I apologize in advance for my negative lack of tech savviness. Anyway. thoughts, anyone?

"Other places" being courts of law... Generative AI cannot be copyrighted because it does not have a "human creator" (e.g. an artist, a writer) behind it. Yet Fiverr is allowing God knows how may sellers on the platform to sell AI content as "human created" content. I suppose the long arm of the law is the biggest negative nelly out there.

And, just in case anyone has forgotten, Fiverr Jesus was one of the sellers at the heart of the YT-Fiverr scandal about 5 years ago. The YTer in question seems to be a badword, but he is a very very very very popular Swedish YT gamer who I believe lives in Japan now.

Would a tech savvy Fiverr AI expert like to explain to me how AI is resolving this situation?

With your expert knowledge, do you think you could somehow combine these subjects to create a thrilling terrifying new treatment for this delicate male health issue?

It can also be 1. Incognito mode won't do anything, since it won't deal with the fundamental issue: choosing more than 2 items will cause the response validating check to fail.

Also, minor quibble. The this post is called "we want to empower your AI journey", but the reality is this: Won't these people already be "empowered" by AI?" I did ask this question in a slightly different way yesterday, but it may have been missed. But in light of how big tech's abuse of algorithmic technology is current affecting people's brains and psychology (see: gamification), empowerment is also a poor word choice. Personally, I'm looking forward to the unveiling of a new "dynamic gamification" AI from Fiverr, which would take all the best parts of AI-driven learning gamification and turn it into something truly abusive in the quest for profits at the expense of the humans who choose your platform out of economic necessity. That could be a fun question for the webinar, too. If anyone wants to ask it, go ahead. Just make sure you're "tech savvy" enough to attend.

I have a question for Fiverr's tech-savvy AI experts who are super into-the-details of AI! Do you believe that overuse of AI may lead to a decline in humanity's mental capacity, much like social media algorithms and design have led to a Great Withering of attention spans (103 seconds, according to research)? I ask because AI is currently also being abused by companies. Never mind the layoffs of people in tech. This simply removes a human dimension into critical thought processes when implementing AI processes by a leadership focused on cutting costs and maximizing profits (sound familiar?). AI replaces them. We can see this in action at Fiverr, where profiles that want to start selling need to go through an approval process. However, it is quite clear that while the algorithmic automation is efficient, it is not discerning. A human can look at some copy-pasting profiles and see very clearly that there's an issue. But an AI will only check to see if things fall within acceptable, presumably preset parameters/items in its (dynamic?) database and case out people who e.g. use their own creative hand-drawn artwork that they made the foolish mistake of sharing to IG. A time measured in seconds and minutes later, they then get the after careful consideration email, or: Of course, that's just sloppy automation; it's not that difficult to wait for a set period of time before sending out the automated rejection so the human is tricked into thinking any consideration happened at all. It is this kind of sloppiness that makes me worry about Fiverr's use of AI to govern the marketplace and its ability to detect who is using AI responsibly and who is using it for copy-paste profits at the expense of the consumer. This technology will undoubtedly improve in time, but as it does, it may yield a similar issue to social media algorithms: people will no longer think for themselves. Experts in AI are already discussing the issue of how AI could affect people's critical thinking and problem-solving skills, since they will no longer be needed; hand it over to an AI. Don't speak a language but also don't want to be accused of using ChatGPT? Copy paste other people's relevant, but oddly out-of-sync comments, in an effort to join the conversation. It's problem-solving of a sort, but nobody, including that person if they fully understood this conversation - would agree that this was a good way to solve this particular problem. Yet AI believes that they are fit to sell on a marketplace in which communication matters. A platform that encourages heavy use of ChatGPT to communicate for those who can't. What is wrong with the old-fashioned way of learning a new language? Yes, it's difficult and hard, but it's also very rewarding. But if platforms like Fiverr are offering economic opportunity without having to do anything other than copy-paste, this is the result. AI here is amplifying the worst human trait: laziness and taking self-destructive short cuts. So, Fiverr, how does the tech-savvy leadership of Fiverr address this? Not in its webinars.... I'm pretty sure these aren't the kind of tech savvy questions the webinar is even about, which is why I'm not attending. But I'll ask here anyway, since someone tech savvy who might be attending might want to ask on my behalf. As a side-note, a retired doctor I once knew once bemoaned the fact that "the youth" had tragically lost touch with nature. When she was a child in London's shelled-out post-WWII streets, everyone could name the different birds, flowers, tree names and all that jazz. This was not a peculiar interest in flora and fauna, it was just normal. Today, most urban populations (outside of enthusiasts will stare at you blankly if asked to name a tree pointed out. I mention her, because my counter-argument was that this knowledge no longer needed to be shared since it was on the internet and (now, with AI) could be easily found. She gave me a withering stare and sighed as if I were the most ignorant person in the world. Quite understandable, really. I mention this little anecdote as humans are very much a part of the natural world. We have always used technology to help us - and destroy each other, often in the name of "resources". But in the past few decades, we have lost touch with nature - and we are now hurtling toward a future where nobody thinks anything, nor cares to learn anything, because an AI is doing it for us. Meanwhile, AI algorithms are clearly rewarding this kind of behavior - as getting approved to sell on Fiverr requires no skill or talent at all - just the ability to copy and paste. Extend this to the greater world, and it's a disaster in the making, unfolding now. Today's AI-led students are tomorrow's doctors and engineers, after all. If our problem-solving skills narrow to a focus of "will the AI approve this" (in any sphere of life) we are not going to a good place. Anyway, that's everything that ran through my mind when I read the post immediately before mine. I find it amazing that Fiverr's own expert AI team cannot see the huge issues that are looming and refuse to address a technologically competent commmunity's clear concerns about the company's use of AI, brushing them aside with a claim that this webinar is only for the "tech savvy", whatever that actually means. Whither transparency? Don't worry, I'm not expecting an answer. It's crystal clear that Fiverr corporate isn't interested in tackling difficult questions.

How is Representative of ? What are these in-depth topics that only freelancers who are super into-the-details of AI will enjoy watching, but not freelancers who want to make AI their trusted business partner? Because I'm super-into-AI, just not the way Fiverr is using it or allowing it to be used. Will you be covering what LLM drives Neo and the coding behind it, how you solved the issue of, say, hallucination? Perhaps explain why Fiverr Neo confidently shows you freelancers from the USA but they're actually in South Africa, Bangladesh, or anywhere outside the USA? Or will it be more "here are some prompts you guys can use that we got ChatGPT to give us 5 minutes ago"? Or somewhere in the middle? Because right now, Fiverr advertising the event as something it apparently isn't. Or rather, ChatGPT did. The problem with the "tech savvy" argument is that 99% of your selling base is tech savvy, since we are working online. We're not grandma struggling to open the Facebooks to Google the AOL. Mostly.

I asked ChatGPT to chip into this argument before another AI expart does. How dare we all not acknowledge that anyone can dissatisfy anyone, anywhere, at any time! That's unfair.

I do wish search results would stop showing Quora. 1) 99% of the time, if you click through, the website doesn't take you to the page you thought you were going to and you look at a slightly related question instead. Usually written by AI. 2) You don't click through, because you can clearly see from the snippet that some lardbrain asked ChatGPT to answer the question for them. All the interesting people left Quora for Medium (which is also now infested with AI and affiliate spam - a problem likely to get worse since Medium at least ranks on Google, unlike most people's AI blogs). In conclusion, the internet is infested with people who shouldn't be "writing" English articles, much less offering "expert" advice. Google's attempt to wipe out AI spam doesn't seem to be very successful either - all I see now is endless forums with "expert" comments written by AI. But since Google thinks its "UGC", that's.... fine? AI abuse is a big problem on the internet, and its everywhere. There's a niche AI tool out there that will use AI to find Quora questions in your expertise and then spam the heck out of it with rehashed garbage top-notch content. Incidentally, a few years back, Quora changed from paying writers to paying "question askers" in a bizarre move that saw a lot of inflammatory/super dumb/etc. questions from people who realized that this was the best way to get paid. Quora's feeble rationale was that since questions created answers, the more answers a question got the more the questioner should be rewarded. Or, in deluded corp-speak, "rewarding the creation engaging, high quality content". Meanwhile, the actual subject matter experts who were on Quora because they liked being on Quora anyway upped and left, outraged that a) they were no longer making what they used to b) 💩posting was being rewarded, and Quora was la-la-la-ing to itself at all of these problems. I think, anyway, I stopped bothering with Q long before the AI invasion - all the interesting people had left. We are awash in a sea of AI junk, and Fiverr is just adding to the pollution.

Oh, they know about it. They're just not doing anything about it. Probably because their super-advanced amazing AI tech systems can't do it, which leaves the multi-million (former billion) dollar company hapless in the face of scammers.

It's just a bad summary of my response to his original post - most likely a snippet from ChatGPT's original summary. As you can see, ChatGPT does not help communication. Yet here Fiverr is, encouraging sellers to use it to better their communication with sellers by repeating verbatim what they say. Unfortunately, when it comes to mirroring in conflict resolution, one needs to be a little more subtle than AI can muster at the moment. It really is telling who supports AI on Fiverr and who doesn't. Personally, I preferred the pre-AI years with broken English. It may have been hard to understand some of what they were saying, but at least it was their thoughts, not badly-parsed, simulated thoughts from a machine that add no value to the conversation. Although the flip-flopping over the gulf of opinions remains consistent...