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Yep. I’ve had a nice customer some time ago, who told me he realized the issue and was curious enough to try out how many gig multiples he’d have been able to order without the delivery time changing at all … he said he gave up somewhere in the hundreds of multiples … Of course, typically, nobody would order hundreds of multiples, but even 2 or 3 can pose a problem if you want to offer fast delivery times, and Fiverr obviously wants people to offer fast delivery times. Actually, I even think when you do not have packages set up, the amount of gig multiples someone can theoretically order is less, I tried switching to no packages some time ago to see if that might help, but it’s still a lot of multiples, so you can just as well use packages.

The issue here is that the delivery time doesn’t increase with the amount of multiples someone orders/ sellers can’t set their own number of possible gig multiples. At least one of this really should be in place, as simple logic tells; both would be ideal, then sellers could choose the optimal set-up for their offerings. I’ve just had it again the other day, someone ordered 3x the basic gig which includes 24-hour delivery. The time should have simply gone up to 3 days in that case, with a banner that makes the customer aware of it before they actually order, for all I care, in case it’s not obvious to someone that 3x the words might take 3x the time. The buyer in this case even wrote “it doesn’t have to be 1 day”, only it has, because of this thinking/programming flaw, or I’d have had to send a time extension request - which costs me additional time, also might count against us for all we know, and nerves, as I can’t know whether or not the buyer will see and accept the request on time, might need me to rearrange my schedule but I can’t while I don’t know if they’ll accept the request on time or not, … The really obvious and simple solution to keep things as automated and quick as possible (which is goals for Fiverr, too, as we know) is that the delivery time multiplies in line with the ordered gig multiples. If someone wants to order 3x the words of the basic 1-day delivery gig, they have to either choose the “next tier” which would be 5x the words and have a higher delivery time “built in”, or to contact the seller to ask whether they even can deliver 3x the amount of words the basic gig offers, at this time, if yes, fine, if no, the seller can offer a custom offer with 2 or 3 days, whatever is possible. Or, very simple, let sellers set their own number for gig multiples, starting from 0, then they can set up their gig packages effectively and according to what they (can) offer, and such things can’t happen. Sellers who just click a few buttons, or are super fast or offer such “small things” that can each be done in a minute or two, can then set the gig multiples to 10, 100, or 1000 for all I care, and those who actually need time to do their job, can set up their gigs so that they aren’t stuck between Scylla and Charybdis, when looking at their options when someone books too many multiples. /rant over, but it’s still a suggestion. There is no logic in how it currently is; it should be at the least so that either the delivery time automatically increases with multiples, or that sellers can set their own gig multiple limit, ideally both.

1 % of 1000 = 10 0.1% of 1000 = 1 It’s still great that we have the option, but it’s 1%, not 0.1%.

I have it on all my orders that are in clearance. I have 7 day clearance anyway though, so, meh. I might use it for really big orders perhaps, though if it’s a % and not a fixed amount … we’ll see. But a really good option when you have 14 days clearance, and also I agree with Lena, very good move on Fiverr’s side to offer that in the current situation. 👍

Did you try asking support about it?

There’s a table if you scroll down that article which has the numbers that actually tell normal folk stuff, like Revenue, Operating Expenses, Net Income, Taxes, if you look at those, you should get an idea without getting tangled up too much in all the IPO-related stuff.

It definitely is good money in any case. Not sure how much really is profit though, after all, while “they get 42% of every $” sounds as if they must be rich, they do have to give sellers 80% of what sellers quote, and pay for a lot of stuff. I think most of all the post-IPO articles said they still make a net loss? … Here’s an article for Q3 of 2019: https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20191113005265/en/Fiverr-Announces-Quarter-2019-Results LOL, it says “Delivered another quarter of strong revenue growth of 42%”, 42 seems to be THE number, so perhaps it’s 42% after all, for anything, somehow 😉

Hm, I don’t like service fees or percentage on tips either but can’t be right, I’d like to see the breakdown of that. They certainly get a lot of % from low-value orders but 42% from every dollar spent, how? Let’s see … For a $5 order: Buyer spends $7 Seller gets $4 Fiverr gets $3 of $7 = 42.86% (so that seems to be where that 42% comes from) For a $10 order: Buyer spends $12 Seller gets $8 Fiverr gets $4 of $12 = 33.33% For a $50 order: Buyer spends ($50+5%) $52.50 Seller gets $40 Fiverr gets $12.50 of $52.50 = 23.81% For a $100 order: Buyer spends ($100+5%) $105 Seller gets $80 Fiverr gets $25 of $105 = 23.81% for a $500 order: Buyer spends ($500+5%) $525 Seller gets $400 Fiverr gets $125 of $525 = 23.81% for a $1000 order: Buyer spends ($1000+5%) $1050 Seller gets $800 Fiverr gets $250 of $1050 = 23.81% for a $5000 order: Buyer spends ($5000+5%) $5250 Seller gets 4000Fiverr gets 1250 of 5250$ = 23.81% Lots of math, short conclusion: For orders with the $2 “Flatrate” fee, Fiverr get the more percent, the lower the order amount, and from where it goes from $2 “Flatrate” to 5% ($40 is the “breaking point”, I think), they get 23.81%, no matter the order amount. Unless my math is wrong, it’s not my strongest point. Agreed, in any branch, it would be far better if people got what their work is worth rather than tips.

Oh, cool, thank you. I’ll have to edit my above post then (looking at the source code reveals that my hunch was right and Germany is in the top 5 instead of Israel …) And happy forum anniversary! 🍰

It does that for me too. For me it shows it if the mouse is positioned carefully right at the left edge of my country, slightly past the left bit of the map pin. Try moving the mouse very slowly around that area. edit: It also shows anywhere on the bottom edge of my country but not if the pointer is on the other places like the middle of the country. Thanks, I did try that and I can get some countries like Austria, Denmark, Belgium and the Netherlands which are covered by that marker too but never mind how long and delicately I try hovering, I don’t get numbers for Switzerland, Germany, Luxembourg.

I’ll list the top 5 😉 Currently (all time stats), it’s ChinaUkraineGermanyUSAUK

You can also ask customer support, quoting what the buyer told you, and in case they think it’s fine to humour that buyer, well, you’ll have that black on white officially then. And if they say no, you can quote what support told you (probably that email exchange only when necessary for the gig and that links for file sharing need to be the kind that don’t need an email), then the buyer can be annoyed at support instead of you (of course, in case it’s someone who likes to be annoyed, they’ll be annoyed at both you and support then ;)) Welcome to the forum!

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While working, I usually listen to something that won’t distract me = no lyrics, mostly that’s ambient music, forest sounds, rain sounds, “focus music”, sometimes classical music, depending on the season, weather, my mood. Right now:

Actually, Fiverr takes a 20% fee from the seller, buyers, as stated in the terms of service, pay US$2 for orders of up to US$40 and 5% for orders from US$40 up, so yes, they do as they must and it wouldn’t be fair to charge the sellers even more, seeing that 20% vs 5%. In case buyers wouldn’t be charged that 5% but sellers 25% instead, sellers would need to catch that in their pricing anyway, so it wouldn’t really make a difference for buyers. You don’t have to leave a tip, I left one for my last 2 orders because I was really happy with the delivery and the price the seller asked was very fair, so I don’t remember what exactly to click to not leave one because it’s quite a while that I didn’t leave a tip but I have also ordered before without leaving a tip, so it’s definitely possible, the site won’t force anyone to leave a tip … I agree with not charging a fee for tipping, however, we know that’s due to some sellers/buyers abusing the tipping function else to partly evade the fee for the actual service, but I really wish Fiverr could find a better way to handle that than to charge a fee on tips indeed.

You can’t do more than hit the report/spam button and hope they’ll eventually run out of spoofed IPs, MACs and such, or realize they are wasting their time because nobody falls prey to their scheme. Personally, I only report after sending a brief reply because I don’t trust the “this won’t affect your response rate” statement after the experience that it did. You should get less of these, the longer you are here, as the spammers and scammers usually focus on newer sellers.

Hi Akil. You need to contact customer support and ask them, else you risk both accounts being banned because to Fiverr’s system, it can look as if it’s 1 person running 2 accounts which is not allowed. They might not allow it if your brother plans to offer the same kind of gigs, in which case maybe you could work together with your brother on your own account but you definitely need to ask support to be safe.

Have fun messing up. 😉

The below are all quotes from Fiverr’s Seller Help Center (together with the terms of service an excellent resource for most “can I” questions in regards to whether something is allowed or not): There’s even a bit for PRO sellers specifically, by the way: This seems to clearly indicate that a profile picture of yourself (yourselves in case of the couples) is what Fiverr prefers (and since they want to sell and have all the data, it might mean an advantage there). However, there are plenty of sellers who use logos, so that seems to be just fine as well. As long as both is allowed, it’s your personal choice.

That made me laugh, thank you. I wouldn’t recommend doing it, though. Privacy …

A lot of this is valid for translation as well. My FAQ have something like I do get clients who even expressly ask to not share their files/info, which wouldn’t be needed as it’s standard/default for me to not share any material as samples (but I get asking because there definitely are sellers who don’t think anything of it). If someone wants a sample, they are welcome to look at my portfolio (where buyers have had the opportunity to (not) have the sample displayed if wished/they don’t mind) or order a sample-sized gig for their purpose. Other than that, they’ll have to trust, just as I have to trust they won’t end up scamming me. This has worked rather well so far (2+ years). Did I lose some jobs for not sharing clients’ files? Probably. Do I mind? Not a bit. 🙂

I fear not, the only thing you can do is ask the buyer for a time extension and pray that they’ll accept it, and on time, before you either have a late delivery in your stats or a buyer who wants to cancel.

So, it happened again. A customer ordered 3x gig quantity without the delivery time changing accordingly. Please, Fiverr, you need to urgently fix this. There is no reason at all that people should be able to order 2x, 3x, 5x 10x, or more times the amount of words with the very same delivery time. Especially seeing that apparently this oversight has been fixed for the VO category months ago already and Writing&Translation still have to live with it, and have to waste support’s time or risk rating drops and level demotion when asking a customer who didn’t expect a higher delivery time because the unlogical system showed them the same delivery time, never mind how many gig multiples they ticked, for a time extension when needed.

So a pretend-author was found out and now blames the very profession and company who made her being a popular author possible to distract from her own building her fame and readership on cheating. I must admit my compassion isn’t majorly triggered by that. Doesn’t mean that Fiverr or other people should tolerate “fake work”, be it ghostwriter’s writings being passed on as original while being plagiarised, copied logos being sold as original work, completely unedited Google translations being sold as native manual translations, etc., of course, but maybe the poor victims should start looking for a bit of the blame in themselves, if they already don’t want to do the work, maybe spend some thoughts and time into making sure they use a ghostwriter who gets fair payment and won’t plagiarise. I don’t think Fiverr or any other company really has the means to check and determine such things beyond perhaps simple checks for word-by-word plagiarism. I’m pretty sure many authors, be they real authors or pretend-authors get inspired by others’ books too. I’ve read and seen many books/series that pretty much use others as a template, be it consciously or not. With how the book market has developed, and especially as someone availing yourself of the ghostwriter profession for cheap prices, you don’t really need to be a naturally suspicious creature to get the idea that there is a high possibility of black sheep and that you need to be careful. And thanks for the post, very interesting, not being a ghostwriter but being someone who writes her own books, too.

I’d say in your case some customers might interpret that question so that they’ll tick “yes” if they think whatever they bought already happened, or no if not, and some will tick “yes” more like “she did her job”. I don’t think it’s really important anyway, as lots of buyers of more “tangible” services here will tick “no/not yet” anyway, most buyers complete and review right after you deliver, so how many of them will already have used the delivery by when they answer that question? They need to upload the bought text, logo somewhere, add the VO to their video, etc., etc., actually “do” something, so I suspect the majority will answer that question with “Not yet”. Fiverr must be aware of that. So, I’d not worry about that specific question really. From all logic, I’d say the only people who’d tick “no” are those who were very disappointed with the gig they bought and don’t even plan to use it/don’t think it will ever “happen”.