richardl2 Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 Hello, everyone, I hate to sound a sour note, but when I checked on a seller's very nice looking book covers used in the seller's portfolio, I found the books (eight or nine of them,) were all six to ten years old. Could there be a legitimate reason for this, such as remakes, or is the seller fraudulently claiming them? 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newsmike Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 They probably have not updated their portfolio. No need to update every time they design something. How were their reviews? Stairway to Heaven was released in 1971, and still rocks. 10 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardl2 Posted July 25, 2023 Author Share Posted July 25, 2023 Thanks, Mike. Eighty reviews, all five stars. About half or so were from one source who seemed to be hiring the seller for typesetting or magazine layout work. 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newsmike Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 Just now, richardl2 said: Thanks, Mike. Eighty reviews, all five stars. About half or so were from one source who seemed to be hiring the seller for typesetting or magazine layout work. Sounds as if you are safe. 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardl2 Posted July 25, 2023 Author Share Posted July 25, 2023 Now many of the books pictured in the reviews can't be found on Google. 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imagination7413 Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 9 hours ago, richardl2 said: Now many of the books pictured in the reviews can't be found on Google. How are you searching? By image, or by the title? 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardl2 Posted July 25, 2023 Author Share Posted July 25, 2023 2 hours ago, imagination7413 said: How are you searching? By image, or by the title? Thanks I7413. By title and author name together. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melanielm Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 If you can't find the books, how do you know they are 6-10 years old? It's possible the person made mock book covers for books that don't actually exist as portfolio samples. They may have sold pre-made covers in the past but are shifting sales to Fiverr. I'm just throwing out possibilities. 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardl2 Posted July 25, 2023 Author Share Posted July 25, 2023 27 minutes ago, melanielm said: If you can't find the books, how do you know they are 6-10 years old? It's possible the person made mock book covers for books that don't actually exist as portfolio samples. They may have sold pre-made covers in the past but are shifting sales to Fiverr. I'm just throwing out possibilities. Thanks, Melanielm. Most of the books in the portfolio are six to ten years old, as I stated in the original post. The books I can't find at all have their covers on display with a review from the buyer. In a google search, I have found a few of the books in the reviews, but the covers are very poor compared to the books in the portfolio 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melanielm Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 34 minutes ago, richardl2 said: but the covers are very poor compared to the books in the portfolio Huge red flag. I'd suspect the older work is not theirs in that case. 9 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardl2 Posted August 6, 2023 Author Share Posted August 6, 2023 Finding same art image on multiple sites. Who owns it? I know there is some leeway with using images if they're changed somewhat, but I have found one image on a fiverr profile that can also be found on dozens of other art sites. The original is evidently from a movie still. Would I have to worry about a copywrite/ownership problem if I use this image on a book cover? Also, how do I judge the freelancer's skills/talent if the freelancer is not the original artist? 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newsmike Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 1 hour ago, richardl2 said: I know there is some leeway with using images if they're changed somewhat, but I have found one image on a fiverr profile that can also be found on dozens of other art sites. The original is evidently from a movie still. Would I have to worry about a copywrite/ownership problem if I use this image on a book cover? Also, how do I judge the freelancer's skills/talent if the freelancer is not the original artist? If it is from a movie still and a Fiverr seller is trying to sell it to you, it is 100% stolen, and you will be vulnerable if the actual owner detects such usage. These people who steal from others to resell can get you work taken down, or even sued. Block that seller and look for TRS/PRO sellers with a history of good feedback. 9 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardl2 Posted August 6, 2023 Author Share Posted August 6, 2023 23 minutes ago, newsmike said: If it is from a movie still and a Fiverr seller is trying to sell it to you, it is 100% stolen, and you will be vulnerable if the actual owner detects such usage. These people who steal from others to resell can get you work taken down, or even sued. Block that seller and look for TRS/PRO sellers with a history of good feedback. Thanks, Mike. I found one site where it referenced the actress and movie. I'll see if I can find that again, and put up a link. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imagination7413 Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 No need. Stolen is stolen, we here on the forums don't need proof. If you want to report that profile, though, you can absolutely link the proof in the report. 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardl2 Posted August 6, 2023 Author Share Posted August 6, 2023 (edited) Here is the link (I hope.) I should say that this movie still is unmistakably the image on which the various other interpretations were based, but they have all been altered slightly in shading or coloration. I also put a link to one of many interpretations of that movie still. I hope the links work. No way to test them before replying. https://kinolorber.com/product/the-well-diggers-daughter-dvd#gallery-tray-6 https://www.artstation.com/artwork/lRK3La Edited August 6, 2023 by richardl2 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catwriter Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 As @imagination7413 said, there's no need to share links with us. If you use a copyrighted image for your book cover (and a still from a movie is definitely copyrighted), you could get in trouble. This is forum, not customer support, so you don't need to prove anything to us (nor can you report someone on the forum). 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imagination7413 Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 Um, that one was clearly labled as 'practice', using the image as a base reference, and even shows the starting pencil sketch. They're not claiming the original image is theirs and as far as I can tell, it's also not being sold. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardl2 Posted August 6, 2023 Author Share Posted August 6, 2023 I don't know what happened, but the thread I started this morning just got added to the bottom of a thread I started two weeks ago. I don't know if any of the previous commenters will find it, but anyway, thanks. I did post links to the movie still original, and to one of the modified redos. Thanks for you responses. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardl2 Posted August 6, 2023 Author Share Posted August 6, 2023 I guess I have some concerns that the seller is not saying that it is a reconstruction instead of an original work. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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