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It's not about being elitist - it's just because Pro and TRS are the only manually vetted groups. If every seller on the platform was manually vetted, then this system I proposed should apply to everyone. But it's prohibitively expensive to vet everyone, there's just too many people. And this system, to work properly, should only apply to vetted sellers, as the quantity of scammers and non serious sellers is too damn high.

That's not the point. The point is that you can't justify spending money on vetting a $5 order. It makes no financial sense. Those orders are worthless. It makes sense for Fiverr to spend human resources on a $2500 order - they're making $500+ fees on it, they can pay for it and still be in profit. They can't spend any human resources on a $5 order - they'd run at a loss.

Because it's a numbers game. This will cost money. Can't have this apply to millions of sellers, it's just impossible. It makes sense to have this apply to people who have already been vetted as serious. I suppose this could apply to order value instead, only for orders above $1000, for example. But obviously you can't have mediators on $5 orders, that makes no sense.

But seriously - not even a week ago, I simply said no to a $2500 order, because I wasn't 100% confident it would have 0 hiccups. They were pressed on time, they didn't go with anyone else. Fiverr lost $500 + fees. On one order.

I'm suggesting giving power back to serious sellers. Pro sellers should be able to contest reviews, when they're patently false. There should be a mediation service, where a third party who actually understands the vertical, looks into the order, and sees if it was delivered according to what was agreed or not. If it was, remove any review aimed simply at screwing the seller over. If buyer asks for X, and I deliver X, and the buyer leaves a 1 star review, that should be removed. It's misleading. The buyer is wrong. End of.

True. I said no to a lot of money plenty of times. The risk is not worth it. I lose, Fiverr loses. Oh well - if they wanted to make more money with my commissions, make it less risky for me. I'm willing to take almost anyone as a client if I'm dealing with them directly - they pay upfront, I do the work, if they don't like it, that's their problem. It's how businesses work in real life - sometimes you pay for something and you don't like it - and you don't get to destroy the business over it. But here? No, thanks.

It means you will be out of the levels system. No level.

It's very hard to be customer friendly if the platform is not seller friendly. The entire idea here is sell x for y. Fixed project, fixed cost. So it has to be fixed - anything that goes over what's initially agreed, no matter how small, is eating into your bottom line.

You don't even know how to count lmao

"Thank you for your interest, but that's not the way we work. We need all assets and information prior to starting the order, any new information is a change of scope, and not covered by a revision. Best of luck with the project". The moment Fiverr allows me to charge by the hour, and changes the revision system completely, I'll be willing to change my strategy. As things stand, on fixed priced projects, you can't allow that.

The category where sellers should have known about all these new features beforehand, yet they're all surprised by them.

Are you looking to marry 40 people?

I've worked for Fiverr itself several times. They asked for revisions. But hey, another factor that we've basically predicted. We have been offering a single revision for the longest time, and try as much as possible to avoid revisions (that ties into demanding all the information upfront, not accepting new instructions once the order is open, etc.). That has also worked well for us, apparently. I find it very funny that we've basically predicted all this, and we work in video editing. Maybe we should work in the psychic category, we seem to be quite better than them at their own game.

Can you provide proof of this? That's very big if true. Btw, your gig is breaking terms of service. You have a link to your website, which has your contact on it. You can't have that.

Let's be serious. You answered your own question. You can't buy an automated, hands off business that prints money for you for cheap. That doesn't exist. If it did, nobody would sell it - or they would sell it at an insane valuation. If you could buy one and turn a profit, the person selling it would be making a loss. Obviously. So they wouldn't sell it for that price. If that's what you're looking for (parking your money on a business to generate income), buy stocks - that's the nearest you can get to that. Expect to double your invested money every 10 years or so. If someone is promising you a business that generates thousands in profits per month, and is charging less than 100k for it... well, some people have sold the Eiffel Tower. Several times.

Well, that's great. I want to turn away those clients. Given the way the system works, the mentality of "I want to get as many clients as possible" is extremely dangerous. You only want the good, patient, right ones. If a client goes away because I don't reply in an hour, that's a client I don't want to have. That's a client that is shopping around, looking for the bargain, or is entitled and needs attention now. I don't want those.

I don't feel this. I have 24 hours to answer messages.

You don't need to. You can just refuse to work with them. I've been turning down buyers left and right lately.

Yes - refuse clients. Which is what these new rules will force people to do more and more. Any minuscule red flag? Refuse. Client is not incredibly impressed with your work and your prices? Refuse. Client doesn't understand the platform? Refuse. Client is in any way less than 100% nice? Refuse. It is the only way.

That's an extremely long way to say "yes".

Maybe so. The company (and its people) is clearly turkish though, which makes an account representing them state location as USA at least misleading imo.

That's not what your website says - it claims to be in two places at once.

UW seems to be great for established sellers with regular clients and long term projects. The successful people there don't have to bid at all, therefore they don't need to pay for connects, and get 10% commission on ongoing work (which is something that doesn't even exist on Fiverr, retainers and hourly billing). Sounds like a dream to me. It's absolute garbage to start from scratch though.

You'd be surprised. Unless you're in a low value vertical (in which case, what's the point? Do something else), there's buyers for every price point. There are people who won't buy from someone too cheap. Those are the clients you want.