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21 hours ago, uk1000 said:
though you have "watercolour" the maximum of 4 times in one gig description, "logo" the maximum of 4 times in the same gig description, "design" multiple times in the description, "drawing" the maximum of 4 times in the gig description. "watercolour" in the description and search tags. "logo" in the title, description, search tags and package titles etc.
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What Fiverr could show to prove it one way or another, to see whether it helps or makes it worse to repeat them in certain places (eg. to have a keyword in the search tags that's also in the gig title, or maybe whether having some keywords repeated in the gig description helps is to show us the average amount of orders received each week for both types (with and without them).
eg. they could show the average orders per week for gigs in the same subcategories, with the same prices/basic prices (maybe where the gig titles were similar lengths >=a certain number of words) and for different number of search tag keywords in the title for each price (eg. stats for 0 of them in the title, stats for 1, 2, 3...5) of them and it would show if it really does likely help or more it worse by doing each of those things.
Yes, that's how you work out how to optimize for google. However, Fiverr is not google - it has a totally different algorithm based, so we're told, on search intent, rather than keywords
I don't know how that works. All I can say is my experience. When I ignore keyword plaement in gig descriptions, relying on my attractive personality and sense of humour ... I get nothing. When I carefully place keywords in title and description, I get some traction.
Descriptions must contain no more than three instances of the same keyword - but as @mariashtelle1 pointed out, there's no other way of saying "logo" when that's what your gig is about.
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I have the same issue. I'm paying for it - but it's not there any more. My SSM says she'll help but doesn't. It's really annoying
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I have not been lucky with SSMs - think I'm on my 4th now?
Part of the issue is that they're given over 300 sellers each to look after, which is impossible. I, personally, have taken to writing directly to my SSM's AI - the response is quicker that way. If yours is away and you're getting an autoresponse saying that, then wait til they get back.
Here's a template:
Dear [whoever]'s AI
Query:
[Ask your question here in very simple terms - no ranting, no jokes, just the question.]
Regards
And yes, there are features I signed up to, but don't have, which is mildly irritating.
Apparently SSMs move on one way or another fairly frequently, so before you know it, you'll have a different one.
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5.4 rating
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Everyone knows AI can't do math - it was the very first thing tech trolls broke when AI emerged ...
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31 minutes ago, visualstudios said:
Exactly. It's just pattern matching, and all speech is pattern based. Detectors may work if you're going over a 300 page book, some coincidences are too coincidental. But for a couple paragraphs, it's next to impossible to conclusively claim if it's written by an AI or not (provided the AI is actually on a human level, of course). And it will keep getting harder.
I play with AI a lot and can now look at even a couple of paragraphs and know whether or not it's AI generated - there's something about it that's just ... off. Not in a bad way, but just off - as if it's slightly out of focus or something.
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In the old days, sellers used to have a gig marked "tip jar". Buyers bought it if they wanted to and received a small image or something as a delivery. Once Fiverr started allowing a charge of more than $5 for a gig, they added the facility to the delivery/review process.
There has never been a time when Fiverr didn't take a cut of tips.
There is no way to give a cash tip that a seller can just accept and stick in their pockets, like a restaurant. Unless they want to get banned-
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I dug out one of my essays from university (2007/8) and put it through copyleaks. Came out 83% AI generated. I thought it was hilarious, cuz, y'no, academic work is supposed to sound robotic if it's any good. But still, @visualstudios and @newsmike - false positives abound as that little experiment proves.
AI is getting better - when it starts using emoticons, you know you're on the right track with your prompts ... cutting and pasting the first attempt, however, is where our "friends" go wrong. Even when it's nearly right, it still needs editing to make content sound human-
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@theratypist - CS isn't going to help the OP other than to say what I did. Let's cut out the middleman ... and some desperate newbies will have already contacted him bt DM ...
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Strictly speaking, this is not the place to ask for developers like me to help you. Fiverr has an AI, search bar, and various other ways to find one on the main site ...
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It does make you wonder what Fiverr is up to when they've turned off the transcript feature ...
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I think you'll find CS already uses AI - badly.
In the old days, any given CS department had a database of pre prepared answers to frequently asked questions with keywords to help them pick out relevant FAQs. They've now added AI to the mix.
Unfortunately, they're not given the training to use AI to get sensible answers to questions and they're still using the same old database for AI to pull from.
Fiverr reduced CS staff by 5% earlier in the year ... but didn't give their CS staff the training to use it properly. Their workload also increased due to taking up the slack from the reduction in staff.
Your problem is not prejudice - other than that built into the software programming. It's always been difficult to get past the first line database FAQs. You just have to keep trying, while remaining professional. No matter how frustrating the process is. Eventually you'll come across a CS agent who actually reads and understands what you're telling them.
By the way - that first paragraph of yours is AI generated. How can I tell? The English is too perfect by contrast to the rest of the post. If you really want to disguise AI generated content, try building something about English as a second/foreign language into your prompt.-
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La única forma de hacer que desaparezca el requisito de la prueba de inglés es tomarla y aprobarla. Molesto lo sé...English version:
The only way to make the requirement for the English test to disappear is to take it and pass it.
Annoying I know .
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The US maket can be (with great respect towards US friends) a little weird. Some people only want to work with Christians, *whatever* the work they're doing, be it spreadsheets, some kind of science or maths. I don't know why.
Years ago someone contacted me about building a personal website. His first question was "are you a Christian?". We had a little chat about why that might be relevant. It wasn't. He had to agree that it wasn't ... but still he went with someone else ... presumably someone who a) was willing to answer the question and b) who then answered it in the affirmative.
I would strongly advise against specifying religion in any way, professional or otherwise. It's not relevant. Anyone who insists on knowing your religion is likely to be a whole can of worms just waiting to be opened all over your profile.
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2 hours ago, mariamjackson01 said:
I received a long automated message then I asked "i have a few questions though." "Would you like to answer them?".
My son used to get so mad when I began a request with "would you [whatever]". Perhaps your seller felt the same way ...
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Lol! The free version of Chat GPT is very bad at reserarch - did you see those two lawyers wwho got into serious trouble with a judge after the AI wrote their motions for them? They didn't check the precedents quoted by GPT. They were all invented ...
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22 minutes ago, uk1000 said:
But should a seller really be able to go and buy a gig in the same subcategory and then leave a bad rating/review for that seller's gig? Surely that's biased/unfair and could be done to destroy their competition. Note: I'm not just talking about cancelled orders here. I'm talking about completed ones too.
The original post said "Our aim is to create conditions that promote fairness" - if that's the case maybe it would be fairer if sellers who have a gig in a particular subcategory can't review another seller's gig in the same subcategory - whether it was completed or not (so they can't try and remove their competitors).
Ah. Total change of subject designed to confuse. If you want to talk about whether or not buyers who are also sellers should be able to leave reviews at all, then your best bet is to make your own post about it.
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2 hours ago, uk1000 said:
Is it fair that sellers can give their competitors a bad review/rating? Couldn't that be biased?
Sellers who are also buyers can't leave reviews on cancelled orders
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@catwriter Didn't Amazon sue Fiverr at one point, due to all the fake reviews ... ? Those gigs were taken down PDQ ...
Of course, Amazon didn't make public threats to sue first ...
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Agreed the courses Fiverr offers are pretty rubbish - for those with any experience at all. If you pair them with the relevant Fiverr tests, you can experience just how bad they are ...
However. Fiverr Learn is aimed at those with no skills to begin to earn a bit of cash. They arrive from youtube, only to find that the promise of "make money on Fiverr with no skills" is a lie. Unfortunately, since Fiverr charges a similar fee to udemy and skillshare, if those refugees from youtube are broke, they're not going to be able to afford the courses on Fiverr either ...
Fiverr Learn is supposed to be helpful, but isn't, agreed. Also agreed is that they should make it clear on the courses page that refunds are not available after completing the course.
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@cattelia, how did you find Fiverr? Was it an ad, a recommendation from a friend, a blog post ... some other way? That's down to the work Fiverr does behind the scenes - marketing, SEO, growing theit online and offline presence. Worth 29% to me.
When you go to the dentist (if you do) or a shop or some other goods or service provider, do you resent the part of any payment you make goes to their landlord in rent? Do you even think about that?
Of course not.
Fiverr is not a charity. It provides services to sellers as well as buyers. They're not always obvious, but, heck, they're worth every cent in costs sellers don't have to pay for because Fiverr's doing it for them.
Sellers don't work *for* Fiverr - they work for themselves. Fiverr provides opportunities for sellers to make some cash doing what they're good at (hopefully!), rather than all the behind the scenes stuff that's just a distraction
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You got a 1* review las year. That affected your place in the algorithm. Not in a good way.
Now all your gigs are gone, which also doesn't help.
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I wonder if that's the answer to my hatred of zoom meetings ... ? Could turn up as Obama - or the late Queen!
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4 hours ago, leannelrivers said:
Yep. The effect has been the same as it would have been after a genuine drop in BSR - reduced visibility, next to no orders. So the assurance that our BSR is fine regardless of the email still doesn't feel right.
Everything stays in the database, whether fixed or not. A cancellation, for example, even though our stats on the front end are not affected, remains in the database and affects impressions. It can take up to six months to recover. This is always denied by CS and SSMs, but that denial is pure gaslighting, because you can see it with your own eyes in analytics.
People who got BSR warnings, even though it was a mistake, still have those flags in the database, even though no seller can see them. Please don't try to deny it.
The March drop, particularly with respect to TRSs and Pros has something to do with the algorithm and is not connected to images, titles, metadata and descriptions.
I turned off all promoted gigs. That seemed to help. Weirdly.
Now off to stuff my face with more chocolate. Does it help? Yes it does
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Early Payout Issue
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When i signed up to seller plus, there was no limit to early payout - nothing about "specific sellers" or having to be eligible in some way. It was part of the package. I have just poined out to CS that not having it in those circumstances is technically breach of contract.
I was told it would be back shortly. I've been patient. Now I feel peeved.