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donnovan86

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  1. Nowhere did I state what the cost would be for $5 gigs. Nor did I suggest that one click equals one sale.

    Anecdotally we have seen others suggest that they have received gig sales for pennies, but i make no claim other than, if advertisers don’t see value in an ad, they don’t buy it.

    Just as I wouldn’t buy a steak if it was 90$ and my salary hadn’t changed.

    I’m explaining how pricing dynamics work in general as an economic theory. Elasticity of demand etc.

    Please don’t add false context.

    But we get it - if your being asked to pay $1 to advertise your $5 gig, you wouldn’t be happy.

    Shame your writing is better than your reading, then you would stop pretending I’m saying something else, so you can make your point seem relevant.

    Don’t add false context. Don’t be disingenuous as to what you’re replying to.

    It’s somewhat contemptuous.

    Don’t add false context. Don’t be disingenuous as to what you’re replying to.

    You replied to my own reply from months ago and started making assumptions. You’re explaining pricing dynamics, I just focused on my own price points and ideas. I suggest you respect my opinion, respect mine and move on. Clearly you have your own approach towards this 🙂 I was just saying that for $5 gigs, this feature isn’t really worth it. And it’s not, especially if your competitors click on your gig when it’s promoted, you just pay for their clicks and receive no sales. So you’re burning money. I assume you didn’t understand the context and that’s fine.

    Clearly you don’t have the same price point I do, so it doesn’t make sense to argue whether my statement is wrong or not. It’s an opinion, which I believe is allowed on the forum.

    Good luck, obviously I won’t continue to reply to this argument, as it doesn’t make sense 🙂 You replied to a post about the high costs for a $5 gig, even if you don’t have one. I respect it’s an opinion just like mine, but I don’t have to agree to it, do I? Let’s just end it. Feel free to use this feature, in my case it doesn’t make sense, which is what I said months ago.

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  2. Well it’s good to stick to the topic.

    There is no $1 additional advertising charge for a $5 gig for anyone thinking this statement has been made based on any evidence.

    It’s not, it’s just the user wants to make clear that were there to be a $1 advertising charge for his $5 gigs, he definitely wouldn’t want to pay it.

    Now we are all clear, we can move on

    There is no $1 additional advertising charge for a $5 gig for anyone thinking this statement has been made based on any evidence.

    You need to be competitive in order to actually have your stuff on the first page. That means paying more for advertising when compared to others. That also means not every person clicking will buy your stuff at $5. That also means you will most likely have to pay upwards of $1 to make a sale. It’s just an assumption, true, but clearly you can expect to pay quite a bit until you get a sale. I saw the most competitive prices per click for writing are around $0.10 or $0.15 per click. Not every click gives you a sale.

    So, you should ask before judging. My initial post was that it’s too expensive for someone selling at the $5 price to actually make sense. It’s barely worth it if you get organic sales. For ad-based sales, you will pay quite a bit just to obtain a sale, and the $5 price also includes your work.

    So it’s clear you need to spend quite a bit on ads to make a sale. Don’t expect a single click to giveyou a sale. Saying that would just mislead people.

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  3. Statistically speaking I stand by what I say. You are obviously an exception to the rule. Offering high quality services at a price that is almost charitable.

    You are rare.

    Your philanthropy knows no limits.

    I doff my hat and beg a statue is carved in your honour.

    But for the vast majority of cases that is the case.

    Your problem was initially on the advertising cost.

    I advised why you had little to worry.

    Now you’ve moved your ‘problem’ to me now not being aware of your largesse to society with these skilled gigs, seven years in at $5.

    The Rule — Not the exception. This is what is being talked about.

    I was talking about myself. And in general, I don’t see the benefit of spending $1 to get a $5 gig. Or whatever the cost might be. I was invited to the program recently, but I still didn’t promote anything, even if my gigs are removed from search right now. I just don’t see any benefit for people that charge $5 for a gig to use this. But it’s a forum and we are all allowed to have different opinions.

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  4. I really feel that my explanation of supply and demand as it applies to advertising was wasted

    I don’t have a problem with that. What I do have a problem with is saying that $5 pricing is for people that aren’t skilled basically. That’s obviously not true. I’ve been keeping the same $5 price for 7 years now. Anyway it’s your opinion, I respect it, I just don’t have to agree 🙂

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  5. I would imagine those categories aren’t eligible. A top rated seller or level 2 is probably sufficiently skilled to not need to sell their labour for $5 and finally the cost of clicks is tied to the demand of them based on their inherent value to the person bidding for them.

    Just like any market. Adverts for a category that was predominantly $5 would likely have a far lower click price.

    A top rated seller or level 2 is probably sufficiently skilled to not need to sell their labour for $5

    I do sell at the $5 price point myself. And for me it doesn’t make sense to promote my gigs with this feature.

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  6. Yes, I know you guys cannot do anything but those who are already top-rated here may help me to figure out what is wrong with my account, can’t they?

    Yes, I know you guys cannot do anything but those who are already top-rated here may help me to figure out what is wrong with my account, can’t they?

    This is a topic that doesn’t need to exist. If Fiverr sees you worthy of the badge, they will promote you. That’s all there is to it. They have their own metrics…

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  7. so the buyers can get their work done and then cancel the order as if it was nothing? like what , they own the patform or something…Their should be review of history chat, work done and ratings in an open dispute.

    Well, the buyer can issue a chargeback via their bank or PayPal, but in that case he gets automatically removed from the platform.

    If customer support cancels the order, the buyer most likely ended up unhappy and he wanted something else. Some scam buyers will try to cancel right after getting the delivery, so there’s that.

    Customer support will side with sellers too, I mean I had a team of scammers trying to scam me, they even did a paypal dispute and their account was removed, but despite that I still got paid since I showed I delivered all the work.

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  8. On 9/29/2020 at 11:28 PM, kawser_ali said:

    you need to share your gig in social media. must be quora.

    Social media shares are most likely not going to bring you any sales.

    So YOU are one of the reasons why I see random Fiverr gigs on Quora? It just makes the user experience worse, and people see them as spam. 

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  9. I don’t understand how they are selecting people for this program. It feels random, they are choosing people with higher prices it seems, because seller seniority, sales volume and other stuff like that doesn’t seem to be a factor. I am still not a part of the system for some reason.

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  10. I tried the gig promotion and I got the following results.

    I did get 2 or 3 buyers that have returned to my inbox to ask for custom offers. However, Fiverr charged me the $.28 fee for each of those orders too. So, it appears that if you get a buyer through the promo, that you pay Fiverr the fee for every gig the buyer orders after that.

    All of the orders were ten dollar orders, which I usually would pay the standard 20% to Fiverr. However, I am now being charged the 20% plus the $.28 fee per order. That means I am paying 23% to Fiverr on a $10 order instead of only 20%.

    I even had one buyer order three ten dollar orders that cost me an additional $.84 total for the three orders, where if the buyer had placed one 30 order, I would have only paid .28.

    In summary, the promo is better if the buyer places larger orders and not smaller orders. Plus, expect to give Fiverr the price you bid on every order placed by a seller who found you through the promotion.

    Would you say it’s worth it? Based on your experience, seems a waste of money especially if we have lower price gigs.

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  11. Yes that is the point I was making excepts about the serious seller part, I think every seller should be using mobile, can’t really see if you can be serious unless you really test how much you can sell your gigs.

    Well, a lot of people here just create a gig and forget about the website because they don’t get orders. They don’t promote themselves or just expect Fiverr to deliver orders. It might help sometimes, but the truth is that you can’t expect Fiverr to hand you orders. You need to do something for those orders yourself.

    So yes, installing the app, promoting yourself and so on, these are pivotal things to consider.

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  12. If you aren’t using mobile this maybe a good feature such as if the seller should respond in 24 hours however most people have mobile to respond quickly and Fiverr already also a 24 hour window for response. Sending a bot message will not guarantee the buyer isn’t going to message another seller, especially if It a time sensitive project. If you are worried about your response rate maybe use the mobile, even with all its faults to respond quickly to buyers.

    If you aren’t using mobile this maybe a good feature

    If you’re a serious seller, adding the app on your mobile phone is a must-have.

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  13. I think there should be to. Especially if you are out of the office or worst case you experience technical problems. Fiverr is forcing commuication between buyer and seller within minimal answering times. Which creates more rapport. Good point.

    One could always have a “Mail Template Quick” List to copy and paste. That’s a good way of solving this problem

    If you’re out of office, you can stop your gigs. Or you can have your phone nearby and reply once a day to messages.

    No one is forcing people to work on Fiverr, nor are they forced to communicate with anyone. But if you want to offer services here and reach success, you should at least reply once per day. I understand not everyone is a Fiverr full timer, but since you can reply at any time within 24 hours, even if you open up your inbox once per day you will be fine.

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  14. I used the ADS and i noticed that the main point is the BID (The amount you wanna pay per click)… i inserted a value and i watched the results for a few days.

    I noticed that my promotion stop to receive clicks, the reason is the value of the BID… if you realize that you are not receiving more clicks, you need incrise the value.

    So to get results with the ADS you need follow your statics, the ADS don’t will help you if you don’t see this statics to keep improving it. I geted a good order with the Ads and spended just $3.39 of the $10 gift from Fiverr.

    The ADS will work as a auction, who are dispost to pay more per click will win the auction, but is not a guarantee of receive an order. This is why you will need improve your gigs to conquest new customers.

    The funny thing is that some people like me with thousands of reviews on the platform still don’t have the option to use ads, but they were fully removed from search and pushed in the back…

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  15. On 8/3/2020 at 1:26 PM, new_design20 said:

    Hello guyes, I am level two seller please help me, when fiverr launch this gig promotion feature for all means level two or TRS, because this feature not showing my dashboard

    It’s not available for every level 2 seller

    On 8/3/2020 at 1:27 PM, markhallva said:
    We don’t know when it will be available for everyone who meets the requirements. Could be a month, could be a year, could be never.

    Pretty sure it won’t be for everyone. The main idea is to not have an overload of gigs without reviews. They are only offering the opportunity for vetted people, to keep things under control

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