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Sure I get that. But either way, the pros of being able to leave a negative review outweigh the cons. Because of my expierience on here I no longer have confidence in fiverr. I surely didnt expect some one with a 5 star rating to do something like this.
If you ask me fiverr is a marketplace and should protect their buyers. The same way if I were to go to an ad agency, and they screwed me over I would be able to leave a negative review about them even though I was refunded. Its as simple as that. If the seller does good he/she deserves a good review and if they perform badly they sure as h*ll deserve a bad one.
Imagine this senario for instance, the seller had a good reputation and decided to sell her account or that she had 10 gigs performing very well and now decided to nah screw this, its way easier to plagiarize and thats how Im going to do my job. The next 20 people will buy her service expecting good results only, because they had faith in fiverrs system. But now they risk getting sued if they use “her” work. Sure in some cases it could be used for manipulation, however in the overwhelming majority of cases it would actually serve its purpose. Its a win for the consumer.
Sure in some cases it could be used for manipulation,
So you don’t care if a person’s livelihood gets destroyed, as long as you have your way to damage someone else’s reputation without even paying for their service in the end (you’re getting your money back). The system is fair. If you want to share your opinion about the experience, you need to pay for it. I find it very fair.
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I already said it multiple times on this forum in threads like this, but this is just a horrible idea. From your perspective I understand where you come from. There are scammers, there are resellers, there are just bad services on fiverr. I do know that, I have experienced that as I am a seller and buyer on this platform. But now comes my perspective - someone who is working full time for years as a top rated seller on fiverr:
Buyers can be creepy and absolute disgusting lunatics. The amount of times I have been harassed, threatened, insulted or damaged is too high and I’ve learned to live with it. But the only thing that kept my service protected from being destroyed by some mad “clients” is that they can not leave a review after I cancel their order. And I’m not talking about that I have wasted someones time, that I have delivered a low-quality product or that I lied. I talk about ““clients”” who ignore your whole gig and description, do not contact you upfront to discuss a project, then purchase the cheapest possible package to demand a service you’re not even providing. That’s what happens to me a lot. Like going into a bike store asking for the new Mercedes. And when I was cancelling their orders, I got threats like “FIVERR ACCEPTED TO LET ME REVIEW YOUR GIG! I WILL DESTROY YOU FOR NOT WORKING ON MY PROJECT”. And I’m like “Hey, sorry but you do want a website designed. I am creating 3D music videos…” - “YOU WILL SEE, WE JUST BEGUN!!!” (And that is an actual quote).
So, after reading this - you still do have the feeling that someone like this should be able to review me and destroy the service and income I build for the last couple of years?
As I said - I understand where you come from but it is a horrible idea for a lot of great freelancers on this platform. The client is not always right.
And when I was cancelling their orders, I got threats like “FIVERR ACCEPTED TO LET ME REVIEW YOUR GIG! I WILL DESTROY YOU FOR NOT WORKING ON MY PROJECT”.
I had someone that placed multiple smaller orders over 3 years, totaling $250 or $300, around those lines. They came to me saying that their website (which I got on the first page of Google by the way, with the content I wrote) wasn’t indexed on Google anymore due to some shenanigans they did. And they blamed me for that, they threatened me to destroy my account, follow me everywhere online and post bad reviews and so on.
So even if they used my content and made money from it for 3 years, I reached to Fiverr and they said for us to find a solution. In the end, I refunded him $250 and a year after, he comes to me for more content like nothing happened. Of course I blocked him, all he did was a ploy to get his $$ back and I was extremely harassed and threatened. So… people believe that leaving feedback on a canceled order is a good thin? NO IT’S NOT. It just allows persons like the one above to harass the seller even more. The seller was not paid at all, he didn’t receive any compensation for the work, and a cancellation penalizes him too.
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Sure I get that. But either way, the pros of being able to leave a negative review outweigh the cons. Because of my expierience on here I no longer have confidence in fiverr. I surely didnt expect some one with a 5 star rating to do something like this.
If you ask me fiverr is a marketplace and should protect their buyers. The same way if I were to go to an ad agency, and they screwed me over I would be able to leave a negative review about them even though I was refunded. Its as simple as that. If the seller does good he/she deserves a good review and if they perform badly they sure as h*ll deserve a bad one.
Imagine this senario for instance, the seller had a good reputation and decided to sell her account or that she had 10 gigs performing very well and now decided to nah screw this, its way easier to plagiarize and thats how Im going to do my job. The next 20 people will buy her service expecting good results only, because they had faith in fiverrs system. But now they risk getting sued if they use “her” work. Sure in some cases it could be used for manipulation, however in the overwhelming majority of cases it would actually serve its purpose. Its a win for the consumer.
If you ask me fiverr is a marketplace and should protect their buyers.
They protected you, they gave you your money back. And you can feel free to choose another seller.
If the seller does good he/she deserves a good review and if they perform badly they sure as h*ll deserve a bad one.
Then accept the order, pay for the gig basically and share whatever opinion you have.
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I dont think that its unethical. I order a service, the seller couldnt do it and therefore deserves a negative rating. I should review the seller based on their performance.
I did end up buying their service and I expected it to be delivered, but it wasnt. They both wasted my time and I lost money because of it. Isnt it more unethical to plagiarize? This is all valid feedback and buyers deserve to know.
Fiverrs review system is rigged, people who are unhappy with the service cant leave reviews meaning that the seller can buy their own service and post good reviews.
Either way I bought the service and whether or not I got my money back, if it was the sellers fault I should be able to leave a negative review. I’ve noticed one thing and almost no seller has a review below 3 stars. The seller who plagiarised my content had a 4.9 rating and will continue to plagiarize and people will fall victim because she included a fake “plagiarism check”.
Because of this more than 1 week of my time was wasted and I had a strict deadline to follow. And who is going to compensate me for that. No one. So the least I could do is leave a negative review right?
Fiverrs review system is rigged, people who are unhappy with the service cant leave reviews meaning that the seller can buy their own service and post good reviews.
Sellers can’t do that, Fiverr catches on to them and a lot of people were banned for this. So they are taking action.
Because of this more than 1 week of my time was wasted and I had a strict deadline to follow. And who is going to compensate me for that. No one. So the least I could do is leave a negative review right?
It’s sad to see that you lost a week, but as I said above, sellers are penalized for canceling any order. So it will mess up his/her stats, and they didn’t get paid anything for their work. If you’re Fiverr, you have to see things from both sides. The seller already got penalized and lost $$ too, where you just lost time, since you got your money back. So as far as I can see, the seller got it worse already. And you want to penalize the seller even more? That feels malicious, not gonna lie.
As I said above already, I don’t believe it’s ok to write a review for something that you never paid for. If you chose to accept the delivery and review the work, absolutely, because you paid for it. But you had a choice, get the refund or share your opinion after accepting the order. There’s no middleground here, and as a seller myself, I find it fair. If people that canceled orders would be able to write reviews, that would encourage all competitors to place bad reviews on a gig and burry it. That’s a huge problem to have if I were Fiverr.
So, while the system is not perfect, it works, and I do believe it’s fair. You had the option to accept the order and share your opinion because you paid for it. When you wanted your $$ back, you forfeited your right to share your opinion. Which is fair, you can’t have both things and also have the seller penalized for cancellations and not get paid.
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Sellers are penalized by Fiverr, and they can get demoted if they don’t keep high stats. So they are penalized anyway.
As for reviewing something you didn’t pay for in the end, isn’t that unethical? You have the right to review if you actually paid for a service. But it sounds fair to me that people who receive a refund shouldn’t be able to write a review. This way competitors could easily manipulate the system, buy a gig and then refund it just to share a bad review. So… you can see how this can go wrong.
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Can we please fix the top menu, though? Ever since Promoted Gigs got squeezed in there, it’s not looking too good on a laptop.
I believe it’s due to the laptop having a lower resolution. It’s a 13" laptop?
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Nowhere did I state what the cost would be for $5 gigs. Nor did I suggest that one click equals one sale.
Anecdotally we have seen others suggest that they have received gig sales for pennies, but i make no claim other than, if advertisers don’t see value in an ad, they don’t buy it.
Just as I wouldn’t buy a steak if it was 90$ and my salary hadn’t changed.
I’m explaining how pricing dynamics work in general as an economic theory. Elasticity of demand etc.
Please don’t add false context.
But we get it - if your being asked to pay $1 to advertise your $5 gig, you wouldn’t be happy.
Shame your writing is better than your reading, then you would stop pretending I’m saying something else, so you can make your point seem relevant.
Don’t add false context. Don’t be disingenuous as to what you’re replying to.
It’s somewhat contemptuous.
Don’t add false context. Don’t be disingenuous as to what you’re replying to.
You replied to my own reply from months ago and started making assumptions. You’re explaining pricing dynamics, I just focused on my own price points and ideas. I suggest you respect my opinion, respect mine and move on. Clearly you have your own approach towards this 🙂 I was just saying that for $5 gigs, this feature isn’t really worth it. And it’s not, especially if your competitors click on your gig when it’s promoted, you just pay for their clicks and receive no sales. So you’re burning money. I assume you didn’t understand the context and that’s fine.
Clearly you don’t have the same price point I do, so it doesn’t make sense to argue whether my statement is wrong or not. It’s an opinion, which I believe is allowed on the forum.
Good luck, obviously I won’t continue to reply to this argument, as it doesn’t make sense 🙂 You replied to a post about the high costs for a $5 gig, even if you don’t have one. I respect it’s an opinion just like mine, but I don’t have to agree to it, do I? Let’s just end it. Feel free to use this feature, in my case it doesn’t make sense, which is what I said months ago.
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Well it’s good to stick to the topic.
There is no $1 additional advertising charge for a $5 gig for anyone thinking this statement has been made based on any evidence.
It’s not, it’s just the user wants to make clear that were there to be a $1 advertising charge for his $5 gigs, he definitely wouldn’t want to pay it.
Now we are all clear, we can move on
There is no $1 additional advertising charge for a $5 gig for anyone thinking this statement has been made based on any evidence.
You need to be competitive in order to actually have your stuff on the first page. That means paying more for advertising when compared to others. That also means not every person clicking will buy your stuff at $5. That also means you will most likely have to pay upwards of $1 to make a sale. It’s just an assumption, true, but clearly you can expect to pay quite a bit until you get a sale. I saw the most competitive prices per click for writing are around $0.10 or $0.15 per click. Not every click gives you a sale.
So, you should ask before judging. My initial post was that it’s too expensive for someone selling at the $5 price to actually make sense. It’s barely worth it if you get organic sales. For ad-based sales, you will pay quite a bit just to obtain a sale, and the $5 price also includes your work.
So it’s clear you need to spend quite a bit on ads to make a sale. Don’t expect a single click to giveyou a sale. Saying that would just mislead people.
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Statistically speaking I stand by what I say. You are obviously an exception to the rule. Offering high quality services at a price that is almost charitable.
You are rare.
Your philanthropy knows no limits.
I doff my hat and beg a statue is carved in your honour.
But for the vast majority of cases that is the case.
Your problem was initially on the advertising cost.
I advised why you had little to worry.
Now you’ve moved your ‘problem’ to me now not being aware of your largesse to society with these skilled gigs, seven years in at $5.
The Rule — Not the exception. This is what is being talked about.
I was talking about myself. And in general, I don’t see the benefit of spending $1 to get a $5 gig. Or whatever the cost might be. I was invited to the program recently, but I still didn’t promote anything, even if my gigs are removed from search right now. I just don’t see any benefit for people that charge $5 for a gig to use this. But it’s a forum and we are all allowed to have different opinions.
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I really feel that my explanation of supply and demand as it applies to advertising was wasted
I don’t have a problem with that. What I do have a problem with is saying that $5 pricing is for people that aren’t skilled basically. That’s obviously not true. I’ve been keeping the same $5 price for 7 years now. Anyway it’s your opinion, I respect it, I just don’t have to agree 🙂
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I would imagine those categories aren’t eligible. A top rated seller or level 2 is probably sufficiently skilled to not need to sell their labour for $5 and finally the cost of clicks is tied to the demand of them based on their inherent value to the person bidding for them.
Just like any market. Adverts for a category that was predominantly $5 would likely have a far lower click price.
A top rated seller or level 2 is probably sufficiently skilled to not need to sell their labour for $5
I do sell at the $5 price point myself. And for me it doesn’t make sense to promote my gigs with this feature.
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Research and you will find it. Why would I and many other sellers share any secret, whether we know it or not? You make big money from that, but what about us? How does it benefit us?
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Check near your name, in the upper right if you are on desktop. Does it show the amount you paid for the order? If yes, you were refunded.
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The seller is most likely banned.
When that happens, every buyer receives a refund.
So you should have a refund in your Fiverr balance.
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Yes, I know you guys cannot do anything but those who are already top-rated here may help me to figure out what is wrong with my account, can’t they?
Yes, I know you guys cannot do anything but those who are already top-rated here may help me to figure out what is wrong with my account, can’t they?
This is a topic that doesn’t need to exist. If Fiverr sees you worthy of the badge, they will promote you. That’s all there is to it. They have their own metrics…
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It can get alot more trouble when it adds up with the paypal dispute. You were really fortunate.
Not really fortunate.
I had one good situation and dozens of paypal disputes from scammers over the years.
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so the buyers can get their work done and then cancel the order as if it was nothing? like what , they own the patform or something…Their should be review of history chat, work done and ratings in an open dispute.
Well, the buyer can issue a chargeback via their bank or PayPal, but in that case he gets automatically removed from the platform.
If customer support cancels the order, the buyer most likely ended up unhappy and he wanted something else. Some scam buyers will try to cancel right after getting the delivery, so there’s that.
Customer support will side with sellers too, I mean I had a team of scammers trying to scam me, they even did a paypal dispute and their account was removed, but despite that I still got paid since I showed I delivered all the work.
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did you tried to contact fiverr support?
I didn’t. But considering how much work overload they have, I don’t feel like waiting a week for a reply.
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If you’re asking me, the buyer reviewed his order and in 15 days (yesterday) my gig was canceled and the amount was removed from my wallet.
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Same thing happened to me, got the order canceled by customer support randomly. No message, no nothing
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On 9/29/2020 at 11:28 PM, kawser_ali said:
you need to share your gig in social media. must be quora.
Social media shares are most likely not going to bring you any sales.
So YOU are one of the reasons why I see random Fiverr gigs on Quora? It just makes the user experience worse, and people see them as spam.
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Only Fiverr customer support can help. We are sellers just like you.
The verification process is very simple…not sure what was misunderstood but as I said, they can help, we can’t.
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I don’t understand how they are selecting people for this program. It feels random, they are choosing people with higher prices it seems, because seller seniority, sales volume and other stuff like that doesn’t seem to be a factor. I am still not a part of the system for some reason.
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I tried the gig promotion and I got the following results.
I did get 2 or 3 buyers that have returned to my inbox to ask for custom offers. However, Fiverr charged me the $.28 fee for each of those orders too. So, it appears that if you get a buyer through the promo, that you pay Fiverr the fee for every gig the buyer orders after that.
All of the orders were ten dollar orders, which I usually would pay the standard 20% to Fiverr. However, I am now being charged the 20% plus the $.28 fee per order. That means I am paying 23% to Fiverr on a $10 order instead of only 20%.
I even had one buyer order three ten dollar orders that cost me an additional $.84 total for the three orders, where if the buyer had placed one 30 order, I would have only paid .28.
In summary, the promo is better if the buyer places larger orders and not smaller orders. Plus, expect to give Fiverr the price you bid on every order placed by a seller who found you through the promotion.
Would you say it’s worth it? Based on your experience, seems a waste of money especially if we have lower price gigs.
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Why is it that I cant leave feedback on a order that I cancelled?
in My Fiverr Experience
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The current system is fair. You can still share your opinion, as long as you pay for the order. It’s not like buyers are not allowed to do that, but getting a refund, keeping the delivered content, having the seller penalized for cancellation and also sharing a bad review, that seems to bring an overpowered buyer and a seller without any protection. If someone paid for the content, it seems more than fair to share their opinion. But if you don’t pay, why have the opportunity to do so?