[I have a question about Fiverr Logo Maker]

Logo Maker is a lovely little source of passive income.
It's mostly about putting in the hard work by uploading consistently, but if you want to grow past that point, the outlook isn't very promising in my opinion.

You need to put that extra hour in from your work schedule to upload a single logo, and...

I'm uncertain about how this is supposed to be effective if you want to grow further. The Logo Maker FAQ suggests a straightforward approach of "continuously uploading great work", but the reality is a tad more complicated. Despite consistently uploading logos for several months, my monthly income stays the same - new logos come in, old logos come out. So it hasn't really paid off for me.

While it started off well, for me personally it seems that this platform doesn't offer much opportunity for growth in the long run.

If there are sellers making a killing on Logo Maker, perhaps they could share their unusual strategies.
The way I see it, even if you meticulously follow all the guidelines and experiment with different styles, approaches, and methods of uploading logos, you may eventually realize that there's no pattern or strategy. 

Not that it's not a nice passive income opportunity, just don't expect that it will be really worth it for you.

[Optimize Your Supply With The Latest Industry Buzzwords 🐝]

Architecture & Interior is my favorite.
From my experience, buyers tend to purchase Premium packages more often and the CTR is quite high.

[A consistent decline in impressions - why is this occurring and how might it actually benefit Fiverr?]

9 hours ago, Logo Maker Team said:

Hey @khafff! New logos getting a boosted exposure upon publishing (they get preference in the listing) to quickly get them to potential buyers and get calibrated according to their performance and the competing logos. Another way to look at it is just just that the boost we provide simply reaches his limit and now the logo is exposure is based on their logo ranking. 🙂 

Oh, that's a shame! 😞 Those were my best-selling logos with consistent sales... I wonder - where could I do better?

[A consistent decline in impressions - why is this occurring and how might it actually benefit Fiverr?]

It consistently occurs that within a week or two of being uploaded, the impressions of a logo begin to decline (with no future increase whatsoever). While one might attribute this to logo rotation, it doesn't hold true for two reasons:

1) There isn't a single logo that exhibits an increasing trend in impressions; all logos experience this declining trend without exception.
2) The logos displayed are actually my top-selling ones with a track record of consistent sales.

Does that happen for your logos too?
What causes this, how does Fiverr benefit from that, and more importantly, how can it be addressed?

[Freelancer Product Release]

Hearing that you guys admitted the weak point of the rating system just feels incredibly heartwarming. Every seller knew that any non-five-star rating meant serious issues with performance... And this used to be so weird! Doesn't a rating of 4.7-4.9 reflect that the job was done wonderfully? Moreover, it shows the areas you can grow in the future.

Overall, I'm so glad that you guys are finally shifting the 5-star paradigm! ⭐️

[Some logos getting removed from the search - how to perceive & address this?]

13 hours ago, vanadium1st said:

I wonder what that is also!

A similar thing happened to a bunch of my logos. They had a low but steady level of impressions and then one day it all went to zero. And that's on the logos that are just 3 months old, with plenty of clicks and favorites, some of them even with a sale or two.

I assumed that that was the harsh reality of the market competition. If they are not performing well enough they get demoted. But, if there is some way to fix that and give them another chance - I would love to know it.

That would make sense if the impressions number were higher than 0 🙂 But if it's zero, then the search algorithm completely stopped showing these in the search. I mean, not every logo gets obliterated, some of them have like 1/5 of the usual impressions. I'd love to know how the mechanism works because I don't really want to delete the logos from the tool completely.

[Some logos getting removed from the search - how to perceive & address this?]

I wonder what that mysterious December 6th day is! 😅
These were awesome logos with many impressions, clicks, and orders. But one day everything changed for some reason. I've decided to wait for a couple of weeks to no avail.

Initially, my first thought was it could be connected to a ToS violation, but I know for a fact it's impossible to find these logos anywhere else as I made them from scratch in Illustrator and all of them are pretty different and they are extremely minimalistic so they can't communicate some hate message or anything. I've got no clue as to why they could be removed from the search.

I'd love to understand why that happens and how to address this. I tried changing metadata, variations, everything - but nothing seems to help 🤷‍♂️

Guys from Logo Maker, I hope this isn't too much to ask for.
Could you help me find what I'm missing here?
I'd love to earn more for myself and Fiverr, I believe we all should talk about this type of stuff to make sure all of our logos are as productive as they can be 🙂

 

 

 

[And The Typeface Of The Year Is… 🔡]

Ah yes, the good ol' classic 🙂

[What do you think about the Logo Maker tool?]

On 12/13/2023 at 7:18 PM, designmarjolein said:

Hi @khafff Welcome to the Logo Maker Design team!
I have been designing here on and off for about 2 years now, whenever I find time next to my work as a self-employed graphic designer.

Many useful tips have been given here already, but I would like to add to that: Diversify!
Just like in the stock market, right? Fiddle around with different styles, for different niches, and in your logo designs try different compositions.

Also think about what kind of companies that would likely order a low-cost logo design from Fiverr Logo Maker. Aside from the insights which are also valuable of course. Who are these companies and what are they looking for?

Good luck and let me know if I can help you in answering any questions!

Thank you so much, that's lovely!

I'm actually slowly growing, got 5 sales already and the team promoted me to the next logo capacity tier, so I'm on my 60 logos journey rn, haha 🙂
I think I'm doing great, adding new logos and fixing old ones. One thing that's bugging me - it seems that for some reason some of my logos were completely removed from the search (0 impressions every day), has that happened to you before? I wonder what that's supposed to mean (I'm sure I don't violate any rules)

To sum it up, I had 0 sales back when I started, but then after like 2 weeks they started coming in 🙂 I wonder if the selling rate may change with time and whatnot!

[What do you think about the Logo Maker tool?]

1 hour ago, Logo Maker Team said:

@khafff Sure thing! I'll add my two cents on top of @reve_line_d's great tips.

Regarding analytics, I'm keen on identifying the specific factors that may impede a buyer from finalizing a logo purchase. -

That's the million dollar question 🙂 Is it the price? the UX? the variations? buying on mobile without editing abilities? There are so many potential answers. For you I would focus on logos that are liked but not bought, there's an interest but something stops the buyer from taking the final step. If you can think of something else feel free to bring it up- our sellers bring the best ideas.

Also, got my first order! It's a milestone worth celebrating 🙂 

Congratulations!! very exciting.🤩

I've been contemplating my approach, typically focusing on color variations rather than altering element placement as I've found other options less appealing. Could this approach impact my performance?

There's no right way of going about it. We did research our top selling logos back in 2022 and got the average numbers for our top sellers, I hope this helps- here

Will the algorithm prioritize showcasing my designs to more potential buyers if I diversify beyond color changes?

Variations have no impact on exposure. What helps exposure is staying active (the algorithm favors active sellers and new logos) and logo conversation rate (how many times it appeared VS how many time was the logo purchased). So - publishing on a regular basis and proper tagging  and industry picking (for a good conversation rate) will push you further.

Additionally, as I approach my maximum logo capacity, I wonder if this unconventional strategy aligns with my readiness for a tier promotion.

We review the one's supply as a portfolio once he reaches a capacity limitation and decided about upgrades. My recommendation is to keep publishing high quality and versatile logos.

Despite thoroughly reviewing all Logo Maker support articles to optimize performance, securing only one order in a month leaves me pondering if adjustments are needed. Is 1 order in the first month an acceptable outcome, or might there be areas where improvement is necessary?

One order for the first month is ok. Since your logos can be sold multiple times the growth is exponential, slow, with a lot of work but with a lot of potential. 

Hope that answers everything 🙂 If you have more questions we are here

Thank you so much for such a detailed response! So glad to hear that variations have no impact on the exposure. Looking forward to using your recommendations in my journey. Can't wait for tomorrow, haha
🙂

[What do you think about the Logo Maker tool?]

4 minutes ago, reve_line_d said:

you can see this is the logo that I was talking about

100% CR, better save that screenshot, looks supernatural 😂
Also, thank you so much for your advice, I noted everything down!

[What do you think about the Logo Maker tool?]

6 hours ago, reve_line_d said:

I just want to share a little here. but I will only answer how to make your logo perform well.
OK, actually, in order for your logo to sell, you have to make sure what kind of logo buyers are looking for. You can do research on "Insight" so don't just make a logo carelessly. Low logo supply with high CR will also have the potential for your logo to sell quickly.
However, there are many other factors so that the logo can be sold quickly. You also have to do research not only on Fiverr but also on platforms out there where you can find several platforms that are similar to 'Logo Maker'. You can research by looking at what types of logos are often used. sold there. That way you can determine what kind of logo style will sell, don't follow your ego, try to follow the market design style of the logo that buyers are looking for.

Then. When you have created a logo with low supply, a lot of interest (a high impression is an indication that many buyers are looking there, and a high CR, you also can't expect your logo to sell quickly.

You also have to pay attention to the logo's metadata, where you have to be careful and completely accurate with the industry you have to enter.

Then here are the factors that determine where your logo quality will be pitted against others.
A good logo doesn't necessarily win because buyers' tastes are sometimes strange, you have to occasionally create a logo that is out of the box, something that other people don't think of.

In fact, I'm not really sure that the variations have the most important influence, so I wrote the logo variations last. if you know I have a logo with more than 200 variations and what is the answer? the logo has not been sold at all. So, I prioritize creating a logo that buyers are looking for.

just sharing my experience, for this month of December, I uploaded the Logo on around December 3 and today the Logo was sold, even the impressions haven't been seen yet because the report will come out today, but the Logo has been sold.

Thank you for the advice! I highly appreciate it. 
Seems that I follow the same strategy - low supply + medium-high CR. I usually create 9-15 variations consisting of either horizontal or vertical placement and different colors. Not adding curved texts, additional geometry, etc.

But I've only made 1 sale in my first month with 20+ logos, I think I'm missing something, no? 
I mostly create minimalistic and geometric logos though, maybe that could be a problem.

[What do you think about the Logo Maker tool?]

On 11/30/2023 at 9:04 PM, Logo Maker Team said:

Hey @khafff! So happy to hear from you!

We used to have a tool called "Do-It-For-Me" for small changes through the seller. Eventually we had to cut it because the buyer's expectations and the seller's expectations were not in line with one another and it caused more problems than solutions.

We are yet to find an effective solution that benefits both sides. The core lies in understanding what is a "quick fix" and what is a whole redesigned logo. If buyers want to buy your logo as is, there is no friction before purchasing. If buyers want changes they need to understand that they are transitioning into a "custom offer" that will require time and work on the seller side (assuming the seller is even interested and the buyer is willing to pay more). As we are yet to crack this challenge, if you have any great ideas, please let us know!

Regarding the analytics- what type of data would help you understand the buyer more?

Regarding the first sale, your numbers still make sense- patience is key. I'm crossing my fingers for you!

Thank you for your response! It's truly encouraging to see how dedicated you guys are to the Logo Maker tool.

Regarding analytics, I'm keen on identifying the specific factors that may impede a buyer from finalizing a logo purchase.

Also, got my first order! It's a milestone worth celebrating 🙂 I've been contemplating my approach, typically focusing on color variations rather than altering element placement as I've found other options less appealing. Could this approach impact my performance? Will the algorithm prioritize showcasing my designs to more potential buyers if I diversify beyond color changes? Additionally, as I approach my maximum logo capacity, I wonder if this unconventional strategy aligns with my readiness for a tier promotion.

Despite thoroughly reviewing all Logo Maker support articles to optimize performance, securing only one order in a month leaves me pondering if adjustments are needed. Is 1 order in the first month an acceptable outcome, or might there be areas where improvement is necessary?

I realize these are numerous questions, and I apologize for the abundance!
It might be asking for too much advice, but any guidance would be greatly appreciated 🙂 

[What do you think about the Logo Maker tool?]

I'm kinda confused about this whole thing. That's a great idea, but does it really work?

For instance, I'd love to see more "I am a buyer" points of view to understand how people choose logos.

The way I see it, there should be a way to interact before placing an order. Something like "I love this logo, but also am wondering if it would be possible to do *this* and move *that* symbol *there*. I think Fiverr may be interested in this too since helping buyers find a logo and make it ideal with a couple of fixes may boost their revenue as well.

Also, I think there should be more in-depth analytics for your Logo Maker performance 📈
Let's take a look at my experience: I follow Logo Maker Team's selling recommendations, I have a lot of impressions, clicks, and favorites and have yet to receive an order. Wouldn't it would be great to find that little thing that stops buyers from buying a logo from me?

To those who've managed to achieve a regular revenue with Logo Maker:
How soon have you started getting orders with Logo Maker?
What impactful solutions have helped your performance?

Let's share our experiences and learn how to sell better! 😄

[What is the point of using the Milestones feature?]

It seems that offering separate orders is obviously better, because:

1) You get paid right after what could be a milestone
2) The client orders several times from you, so that makes him a returning buyer, and that's a great indicator of performance

Maybe there are more reasons to use separate orders, add them below if you thought of it.

Why use milestones at all? If there's no point, I think the Fiverr team should make it more reasonable.

[My level wasn't evaluated (level 1 to 2) even though I met all criteria]

40 minutes ago, strategist_ceo said:

Which month did you get promoted to level 1?

  

If your promotion to Level 1 was September 15. This might be the reason.

I was promoted to Level 1 somewhere around May-June. The investigation goes on...

[My level wasn't evaluated (level 1 to 2) even though I met all criteria]

3 minutes ago, strategist_ceo said:

You need to be active for a set period of time in order to be promoted, my speculation is that setting your status as "away" may be a contributing factor. 

My experience:

I was eligible for Level 2 but was not promoted on time. The reason I was given that time was that I needed to be a Level 1 seller for a specified period. In other words, a Level 1 promotion to Level 2 will have to be a Level 1 Seller for at least 60 days.

(I looked for that specific ticket, but Fiverr has already deleted my earlier support tickets, so I cannot be certain. Don't quote me on this.)

Well, I was active. So no, it's not the case. And the support agreed on the fact that I'm eligible for Level 2.

[My level wasn't evaluated (level 1 to 2) even though I met all criteria]

Come on guys, how come no one had such an experience? Am I really the only one? What an odd situation to be in.

[My level wasn't evaluated (level 1 to 2) even though I met all criteria]

1 hour ago, sabinespoems said:

Hi there! So every month on the 15th your criteria are evaluated, so if you meet those then your level will be upgraded. This means that if you met the criteria on October 16th, you have to wait until (as the message says) November 15th. 

However, if you already had the right criteria before October 15th then that is indeed a bit odd. Was this the case? 

Yep, already had the right critera before October 15th.
It seems that I just wasn't evaluated. Fiverr support doesn't seem to be aware about this issue.

[My level wasn't evaluated (level 1 to 2) even though I met all criteria]

Title pretty much says it all. It now says "Evaluation date: Nov 15", but my level hasn't changed.
Contacted Fiverr support and they recommend to wait more.
But it's been 5 days, and I know this process takes some time, but the date changed on the 2nd day! In both app & overview tab. It probably means that the process is finished.

How long did your longest evaluation take?
What do you think about this situation?

[Buyer asked for a revision in which he didn't specify what to edit]

17 hours ago, sunboatrecords said:

Don't worry about it. Nothing you can do now. Just learn from it.

The “it's dangerous for your profile” part was far from optimal to avoid friction. You put the buyer on the edge and, if they are an anxious person, they can react to this.

We are talking about avoiding conflict; not that is the proper way to act.

There are sellers who would elect to keep re-delivering after the 72-hour window had passed.

72 hour window? I don't think I follow... Is that like a Fiverr system thing? I thought I have no limits on when to provide new revision.

[Buyer asked for a revision in which he didn't specify what to edit]

1 hour ago, sunboatrecords said:

Nothing wrong with that!

The middle part could have been avoided since you already made your decision. That would eradicate all shades of conflict or displeasure on your part.

Dam. I tried to be as smooth and positive as possible and share this info so this buyer won't confuse someone else in future.

[Buyer asked for a revision in which he didn't specify what to edit]

So anyways, I said this: 

Hi, ***. Sure, I understand your worries and can wait for next week. That's not a problem for me! 🤗
I will text you again on October 20th or it will be even better if you can text me earlier.

However, let me help you a bit here. I want to let you know that using a revision button like that is against Fiverr's Terms of Service (so quite literally it's dangerous for your profile).
You can always use the "extend delivery time" option instead if you need more time. 

Cheers!

What do you think? 

[Buyer asked for a revision in which he didn't specify what to edit]

7 minutes ago, sunboatrecords said:

It is against ToS to misuse the revision button like that.

Nowadays, the buyer also has an option to extend the review period by a few more days.

You can redeliver and point to the fact that they are breaking ToS or, you can graciously accept their decision and wait a week, a month, a year or whatever they see fit to avoid conflict.

Well, I don't want any conflict here because either cancellation or a bad review will ruin my sales for at least a month (based on a previous experience). It seems that I don't have any choice here.

[Buyer asked for a revision in which he didn't specify what to edit]

...but instead asked me to wait for a week until he can take a look at the delivery properly.
Again. Used a revision. Didn't specify what to change. Asked to wait for a week.

What do I do in this situation? Do I just ignore this revision request and wait for a week? I suppose time doesn't run out since I delivered the order on time.

Fiverrheroes, help!