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audioboon

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  1. If you change the heading to “Please delete this post” a moderator will see it and deal with it for you. @lloydsolutions @bolderoffbros It is better to keep this post, someone may learn something new. It was a good discussion.
  2. Here, I am giving you this one for free: you don’t need bradcast rights. You need commercial use license. You should learn the difference. It is your choice. Then again, you may chose to pay a better artist 30$ instead of paying 6 people 5 dollars. 5$ performance? Performance? The whole problem is that you expect performance for 5 dollars. That is the mindset you need to change. So what is your expectiation for 5$? Quality? Fast time delivery? Exceptional customer service? You should be aware of those people offering 5$ “performance”.
  3. It is amazing how you make difference between 5$ and 10$ gig, as if “those 10$ voiceover should have worked hard to earn it”. You are talking as if 5$ would make any difference for you and any difference for the seller. No it will not. Its peanuts. Its almost the same, especially for the seller. It is a free market out there, and no one is obliged to follow your way of reasoning and doing business. That kind of reasoning will cause you nothing but pain in your business endevours. You want to work with someone for free? Find one artist and go for it. You want to pay 10$? That is ok too, find another artist for that. You want to find some professional and pay him 1000$? That is possible to. There is a bit of everything or every budget. But expecting a quality work for 5$ or 10$ it really beats my mind. Just because that someone performed better work for free, doesnt mean that when you pay 5$ or 10$, you should get something better. Now for the broadcasting rights: Why do you need them? Do you entirely understand the broadcast rights and when you need to buy them? So its not seller’s fault if you asked broadcast rights, when you dont even need them.
  4. So I don’t think it’s worth the risk of asking them to contact CS or you doing it as you commented on their rating. If CS is contacted you could get a warning for it. This rule applies on seller to buyer communication, not seller to CS, in my opinion. Many people misinterpret it since they say “Oh no, never mention ratings to anyone” The thread I’ve posted above is a proof that in some cases you can talk with CS about ratings. TIt depends on the situation.
  5. I that case just leave it as it is and dont contact CS 🙂 you made the buyer feel guilty a bit. Maybe it was with good intention, but it has been done
  6. It won’t be a crime but it could risk a warning (especially if they think the seller has been asking the buyer about the review like you said/pressuring the buyer about it). The rating was actually 4.7 stars so it’s better than 4 stars. It’s not worth the risk (over 0.3 stars). Also I don’t think they allow them to be changed now anyway. And they have said they can’t be removed unless they break the TOS. I would say that it depends on the context. If the buyer mentioned the mistake first “oh sorry I left 4 starts instead of 5”, i would surely mention that to CS right away. If not, THEN you are probably right. But you cannot say it is a golden rule and encourage people not to stand their ground for a possible mistake. If the guy in the post I am refering to took that advice, he would have ended up with a 1* review that was a mistake.
  7. I don’t understand why everybody is repeating this false statement: if you are in doubt or even better, have proof that your buyer made a mistake with the review (see attached thread below), why would it be a crime to ask CS their opinion BEFORE talking with your buyer about it? How are you sure about this? Did your buyer mentioned this first or he told you after you asked him “why have you left me 4 stars?” That is not necessarily true, especially if @monogadjo is certain that the 4* feedback was a mistake. But if you asked your buyer “why did you left me 4 star review” without him mentioning it, you may get in trouble.
  8. I don’t see why you wouldn’t be able to define a commercial use license as an extra. You can define even several licenses, to my mind. But it is even better if you ask directly the buyer whether it is OK to use the logo in your fiverr portfolio samples. I even included a requirement question to ask that, and every buyer can answer when they make the order.
  9. Maybe you could do another gig just for foley, another for mixing, another for mastering, another for music transcription, etc. the list goes on, as @thatwordchick said, target a specific niche. Yes, thanks, tried them all, but composition is my thing. I need to look for sub-niches in that niche 🙂
  10. Thats a very useful advice for doing online business and must be the best way to go, I’ve always thought the same and its my next step. But if I invest all that energy for finding clients outside fiverr, I might as well do my business completely on my own without ever passing through fiverr. This is important what you are saying, and its difficult for me to make that switch. If fiverr is only a means to get payed, and its not proposing you to inside fiverr clients, there is no point being on fiverr. Unless if by bringing clients from outside fiverr, you’ll rank better for inside fiverr clients? Do you have any experience to confirm if the algorithm ranks you better when you bring outside clients?
  11. Thanks a lot for your input @thatwordchick. For me, “music for animation” is my niche, and it works well, once those impressions start going up. I will try to think of some other ways of identifying more specific niches. Eventhough I tried few but it didnt work. From my experience, and judging from my previous clients, it is important that your impressions go high, and then, in my case, people from a lot of different niches start contacting me. The trick is how to get those impressions go up. If I could only figure out how people are searching for music on fiverr (I think its a type of question we all ask ourselves 🙂
  12. OK, the time has come to scream for help. so HEEELP. it has been more than 15 months that I am on fiverr, I got to level 2 and everything just stopped after. Everything went to silence when fiver decided to change completely the algorithm. It has been 3-4 months and things are getting pretty complicated. Since then, nothing I do seems to work. I have changed the gig in milion different ways, I’ve included video and everything, but still, I dont get beyond 20-30 impressions per day, sometimes going down to few impressions (according to the new analytics page). So please if anyone has anything to sugggest on how to improve anything inside my gig or offer, I will be really greatful: https://www.fiverr.com/audioboon/compose-original-music-and-sound-effects-for-your-animation Good thing from this experience is that I am pushed away to look for my luck outside of fiverr, so I continued to develop my business and diversify. But still, what went wrong, fiverr??
  13. Its a good thing to want to reach higher levels, it can have more advantages like the right to ask for higher rates. But note that it doesnt mean that if you reach the higher levels, all the problems will be solved. In my case, I reached level 2 and everything stopped, complete silence for 4 months appart from few regular clients. My point is that you need to concetrate on other stuff much more, like trying to understand how the algorithm works or how to do marketing research, how to get clients, how to keep clients, how to improve your offer etc.
  14. It took me one year to go from level 0 to level 2, seven months to level 1 and 5 months from level 1 to level 2. That is after I started being active. Yeah, you can start a poll, it will be better than a post, as @uk1000 suggested.
  15. Rember that part of the TOS is about stock images licensed by Fiverr from GettyImages. That section says: It’s talking about the option on Fiverr where you can earn extra for a specific stock image from that site through Fiverr (eg. the buyer could choose their own stock image from that site when ordering). Obviously if the seller got their stock images from somewhere else, those stock images wouldn’t be licensed by GettyImages and the terms could be different to that shown in that section. edit: Yes it wouldn’t be okay if the logo contained just that stock element as-is as the logo wouldn’t then be unique. Though it will also depend on the terms of use of whatever stock site the seller has used. If the stock elements are generic enough it should probably be okay depending how they’re used (eg. positioned/changed). I see. So its more of a license breach than it is copy pasting already made stock icons. So if the seller sells me a logo consisted of 4 stock icons combined together, on which he adds small additional line to make it “different” or doesnt add anything at all, the seller can still get away with it as long as he hasnt breached the licensing rules. But I wouldnt be so happy with the result, when I understand how he/she made the logo, So if I knew at the beginning, i would have probably not accepted the delivery. Trying to understand how this goes with logos… 🙂 And airbnb is allowed to use this logo??
  16. Exactly! From the ToS: "Stock Image(s) may not be used: on a stand-alone basis with no other content;for pornographic, defamatory or other unlawful purposes;as templates used to create multiple copies of the same Gig;for the purpose of enabling file-sharing of the image file; orin logos, trademarks, service marks or any other branding or identifiers."EDIT: Forget this, see the answer from @uk1000 below. So it is officially not allowed to use stock icons for logos? Now I discovered that I’ve been scammed with my first and only purchase of logo on fiverr 🙂 congratulations to me. I didnt even intend to use it anyway, but Logos on fiverr? You need to be extremly carefull or don’t mind at all whether it will be original or not. In my defence, I didnt know anything about logos when I made the purchase, I was not aware how things work. Just to add: lets say that you are allowed to use stock icons, which I guess is not the case as explained above. Have you mentioned in your gig description or your order, that you are using stock “icons” or “images”? Was your client informed that you are doing that in any way? If not, there is nothing to complain about, since your “products” made from stock icons can be also considered as a scam. Be happy that you’ve made it so far. I wonder how did CS learn about your profile? It must be some client telling them what you did and sending a milion look a like logos from the web
  17. I am speaking from a point of view of my market: The music I sell is usually included in other products, like videos. The buyer can sell the video at higher prices, but the buyer cannot resell my music on its own, as a separate product since I am legally the owner, as stated in the ToS. Now, if you are selling stories, it should be the same: is your story included in a book or a website or something else as a separate product? If yes, your story is only a part of something else the buyer is selling, so he can charge whatever he/she wants for that product. I believe the buyer cannot resell your story as it is at higher prices, unless you specifically agreed to or selling ghost writing. Commercial USe license covers you for this. But I don’t know much about your market, and how publishing stories works, the best will be to consult other people that sell stories here on fiverr. Your question is valid and copyright and royalties are a difficult things to define, especially in a marketplace as fiverr. In my opinion, if you are aiming for royalties, fiverr is not the place to sell your stories. You need to contact some publishing companies.
  18. Credit or “Attribution” as it is called in Creative Commons is something different from Commercial Use license. With Commercial Use buyer is getting the right to use your work for commercial use, and make money out of it, without having to pay you royalties. Legally, you still “own the work” as written in the ToS under commercial use license, but according to ToS the buyer is not obliged to mention your name inside the “product” he is is selling. Credit is something that you need to specifically ask for when someone is buying your gig. Some artists have it included in their gig description “You’ll need to give me a credit for the work” or something like that. In my case, I don’t care about credit that much allthough many of the people I worked with were asking whether they can credit me inside their work. But if you want to be credited, you need to ask for it. And try to work that out in the beginning, the best before the purchase.
  19. OK perfect, that kind of answers my question. Thanks @surajrenuka
  20. Oh yes, I will need to precise that, thanks for that. It is in revision mode, with one time delivery.
  21. If you have one or many orders open for long time, in revision mode, for different reasons, like waiting important inputs from buyer, does it impact your ratings? I am getting suspisious and curious since I have one order open for long time and I am really hitting the bottom with no orders, would like to have your opinion on this.
  22. I had a similar experience with a buyer asking to sign a NDA. If the buyer asks me to sign any kind of document, I would: try to explain/prove to him that he is already covered by TOS or ToS doesn’t allow itIf he doesnt accept, tell him to ask CS or even you can open a ticket to CS and see how they’ll react.If he still doesnt like to do that, report him and block him.But there might be a problem if you have just delivered and he/she hasn’t left a review, and now he/she is asking for you to sign just after you delivered. If you block him or report him behind his back, he may leave you a bad review (the buyer has 10 days to leave a review). So you need to be careful. With my client, it all ended at step one, he understood everything by me pointing out what is writen in the ToS. Its worth trying.
  23. I am actually out of the forum for some time. Oversaturated by many pointless posts just poping right into my face everytime I connect. Also, I am having a major crisis with having no orders AT ALL. Don’t know how this will end but it doesn’t look good.
  24. So much confusion in this thread. The guy is asking about live portfolio, which is not a new feature. You can activate it by going in gigs and clicking on live portfolio from the drop down menu of the given gig. https://sellers.fiverr.com/en/article/setting-your-live-portfolio The other, Portfolio feature where you can create your own portfolio by uploiding items directly to your fiverr profile is only available for top sellers as @wpexpertsabbir said.
  25. it seems to have created ambiguity though, better still it breeds situations where parties disagree with who owns what when it’s not clear cut. we could use a TOS rewrite, and probably won’#t get one because fiverr won’t want to upset either sellers or buyers, and so these rounded discussions are important maybe a buyers forum is the answer… I agree with everything you say, although for me it is clear and it is clearly written in the ToS about the commercial use license: If you have included it in your order as a seller, and the buyer gets it with the purchase, either for free or for a certain amount, you are protected as per ToS. Nobody else can proclame any rights on it, it is explicitly written that the seller retains the ownership. For sure, everything can be wrtten much better here on fiverr and we can be given many possibilities about this important issue. There are many other licensing options out there, it is enough to see how the stock digital product sites (like envato etc.) do it. Its enough to give tickbox for several licensing options, including one for full ownership rights transfer (even though I would be against it, at least for my domain) and to leave it to the buyers and sellers resolve everything between them, than to have situations like this one, where actually if anytime the seller forgets to thick commercial use license or your buyer doesnt want one, you can end up with situation not so clear about who owns what within the delivery. And of course, IF fiverrr wants to become more serious freelance platform and tends to make their brand and image attract more professional buyers and sellers, they must dive into this question much more seriously.
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