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1 hour ago, williambryan392 said:
I really love buyer insights
But they nerfed that (or didn't tell us at first and only added the notice later). Both order completion rate and average order price is "Based on activity of similar buyers" and consequently has no value. Especially order completion rate, which could be very useful, but I'm sure Fiverr did that to avoid sellers discriminating against buyers who've had a lot of cancellations.
Beyond that, I agree with you. I see it as good value, but I'm not a fan of what they did with increasing the rates for early-birds.
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10 hours ago, mandyzines said:
Now, after two and a half years, I finally understand what that means.
Ahaha! Yeah it took me a while too. (And I never wanted to ask because I sort of knew what it meant, without knowing it, and didn't want it to appear like I didn't 🤣
10 hours ago, mandyzines said:I'm still coming to terms with scratch videos we're supposed to follow when creating voice overs.
So, I'm at the point now where I can just look at the formatting overall and be able to tell how ChatGPT-y it is and then opt to skip reading it. I do that here, and everywhere else. It's thickening everywhere, decreasing the value of every online space, it seems.
Yeah. As a Norwegian, I get a lot of GPT-translated scripts. I try to help the client improve them, but I'm at the point where I'm not afraid to just read it as is if they prefer not to pay for that extra. I mean, if they really want their company to seem like they don't care at all about quality, who am I to argue?
25 minutes ago, emmaki said:ChatGPT gets idiomatic language a lot better than GTranslate and is also really good at explaining to you why a phrase in another language is like it is (I use it a lot for that), but it really shouldn't be use as copypasta.
I use it as well to help me understand the subtleties and reasons why something is phrased a certain way in another language. For example, my Spanish is limited to everyday conversation, and I'm definitely not fluent, so it's handy when I don't grasp something and GT isn't making sense.
But as you say, if you don't speak the language well already, you can't tell if what GPT comes up with is any good. And those using GPT as a crutch for everything are the same people who previously couldn't string two sentences together. Now they rely on GPT for everything and think they're unbeatable exparts.
32 minutes ago, emmaki said:I'm starting to realize I'm going to be one of those cranky old people.
We're getting old for sure. I read an article by a professor in Norway the other day, discussing how GPT is dumbing us down. It demonstrated that a 13-year-old today would choose AI-generated content over human-written (thinking it was better) when given the choice, because they thought it would make them look smarter. And the examples were atrocious. If I weren't such a bearded, manly man-dude, I might've cried.
36 minutes ago, emmaki said:Then what is left for humans?
Have you noticed what's happening in Japan? Young guys aren't interested in dating; they just want to play video games, and if they need some affection, they'll head to a "cuddle cafe". Meanwhile the women are ending up as "sheng nu" or "leftover women." How nice. You can even rent a family for a day there. Just think about what AI and robotics will do.
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1 minute ago, casteel_cv said:
What gig can I write and start receiving direct orders or Contacting from in the next 3-4 weeks?
So instead of creating a gig doing what you're good at, you just want to make a gig about anything that sells well already? Sorry, but that's how you succeed on Fiverr.
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10 minutes ago, emmaki said:
I'm disappointed.
I thought this post was going to have some hot head rolling action with added pitchforks.
I'm trying to behave.
10 minutes ago, emmaki said:I get more vexed when opening a promising-looking blog post, only to realize it's just top-notch fluff.
In a world....
10 minutes ago, emmaki said:I also get annoyed when watching videos and noticing that the script is GPT.
Even worse if they use an AI voice over.
10 minutes ago, emmaki said:As a side-note, GPT is incapable of proofreading without strict instructions. If you just tell it to proofread, it automatically turns your text into a fast-paced navigation through the realm of fluff.
Yeah, true. I still prefer the result over non-fluent usage of Grammarly though.
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Just now, breals said:
I nearly spat my coffee out when I saw that reply. Surely a worthy contender of the Darwin awards for 2024
How dost thou dare to squander the precious brew of the bean, that elixir most hallowed and revered?
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2 minutes ago, dibakarbiswa141 said:
- Forum posts often contain large blocks of AI-generated text resembling medieval proclamations.
- Users seek answers to questions about Fiverr gig ranking or sales strategies.
- Requesting GPT to proofread is fine, but avoid asking for elaborate Shakespearean-style responses.
- Excessive AI-generated content is discouraging for readers and reduces engagement.
- Simplify communication to enhance readability and engagement.
Nice job using GPT to summarize my post. 🎉 I'm too lazy to do that.
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The new system is here to stay, and Fiverr won't listen to you or any other seller telling them otherwise. So we just have to go with the flow. You're not the only one who has been raging about it on here, and you probably won't be the last, but I'm pretty sure our time is better spent working within the system, because Fiverr doesn't care if it runs sellers into the ground.
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Am I the only one tired of checking out forum posts, only to find out the OP has thrown up a giant block of AI-generated gibberish that reads like some official proclamation from a king to his queen consort in Northumbria?
"Hark, ye noble kin of Fiverr's gathering, cherished brethren and esteemed sirs. Lend thine ears and fix thy gaze upon these words, for I shall summon the wisdom of the grand seer GPT to inscribe a lengthy tome, spanning fourteen leaves, addressing the riddle of "How to rank ones esteemed gig" for thine enlightenment and enjoyment."
I get it. You're after serious answers to serious (and not-so-serious) questions about life, like, "Will my ranking go down if I change my gig thumbnail?" or "How to mek sells on Fiber."
But come on, we don't need a wall of AI nonsense to answer your questions. If you have to use GPT, just ask it to proofread your question. Don't ask it to write up a deep, heartfelt saga in the tone of Shakespeare.
And I'm saying this to help, because this is not how normal people communicate. It used to be, back in the Middle Ages.
If I'm opening a forum post and end up having to read yet another wall of GPT drivel, I won't even bother sifting through it, certainly not respond to it.
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4 minutes ago, gfx_junaid said:
I have an old Fiverr account which was inactive for 2 years and I worked as a graphic designer on that account, I have 8 client reviews on that account. Now I want to start working on Fiverr again as a content writer, should I revive that account or create a new one for this purpose?
You're not allowed to have more than one account on Fiverr. So if you're thinking of making a new one, you have to delete the old one. I suggest trying with the account you already have first. Having a few reviews, even if they're old, can help create trust with new buyers.
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On 4/8/2024 at 10:39 AM, newsmike said:
The first one makes me laugh though. "Hi, I want to underpay you for a job, and if you do it I will reward you by underpaying you for lots more work."
Classic.
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14 hours ago, newsmike said:
If I were tuning Neo, I would instruct it to always match with the higher priced gigs. Dumb to promote $10 voice overs when you can sell $100 ones at 20% com.
If I were tuning it, I'd make sure it delivers exactly what you're asking for. While I agree that it's dumb to promote $10 voice overs, the issue wouldn't be with Neo if it did, but with the people Fiverr let onto the platform. They created a bot specifically designed to connect you with the right seller. So, if a seller is offering their voice for 10 bucks and that's what I'm looking for, then that's what it should show me. But that's not really my main point. I don't want Fiverr to sell ten-dollar VOs.
My point is that Fiverr is shifting away from catering to cheap buyers, and that causes a decrease in the number of buyers. You'll find more shoppers at Walmart than at Tom Ford, so moving upmarket means you might lose some customers. That's not necessarily bad if the remaining clients can afford the higher prices.
That's not the only reason, obviously. I buy on Fiverr too, and what used to be a somewhat smooth experience has turned into a hassle. The review process has ballooned to three pages, plus there's that irritating email marked [ACTION REQUIRED] (Yes, I made it look horrible on purpose because that's what I feel whenever I get it) pushing me to give private feedback on top of everything else. Plus, finding a reliable seller has become a pain unless you're an expert in that field yourself. It's always been a risk ordering here, but now, even the pro badge doesn't guarantee quality or even any resemblance of skill.
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2 minutes ago, mushramusic said:
It's correct when you sell the same thing. In our case, a simplified example:
"I will create music for your game"
"I will create art for your game"
They are completely different in their meaning and can't be considered plagiarism. Am I wrong?No, it really doesn't matter what you sell. Let's say I sell apples, and you sell oranges. You have a really cool website with lots of content about how fresh and delicious your fruit is. I steal that content, but I change "oranges" to "apples". It would still be plagiarized.
In your specific example with gig titles, that alone would probably not be enough to claim plagiarism. Are you saying that all you did was copy the gig title, or did you also use other parts, like gig description bits, package descriptions and so on?
Adding to that, you said you used an image from the web you found. Perhaps that image has been used before by other sellers, and the system flagged it because of it, or perhaps someone at Fiverr took a close look at those gigs and said "they're too similar for it to be a coincidence, this is a) copied or b) the same guy using two accounts" - which is also not ok on Fiverr.
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Just now, mushramusic said:
You're right, but it's not the case. Because I didn't copy-paste anything. I've said precisely, it has similar phrases, but overall more than 70% of the text is unique. What if we imagine a situation when somebody creates 70% unique text with 30% coincidently similar to another seller's text? Looks like he will be banned forever with no right to restore his account. Not silly? I doubt it
It would still be using someone elses work. In academia, copying 30% of someone elses work would be considered plagiarism. In my line of work outside of Fiverr (the press) I would never publish something that was 30% or even 20% copied, beyond direct quotes with a link to its source. If I own a company and copy 30% of my website content from my competitor, I would probably get sued. These rules aren't specific to Fiverr: plagiarism is plagiarism.
But I didn't make the rules. I just follow them.
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48 minutes ago, andywarburton said:
In my niche I provide conversion optimisation reports. Because they are written reports, they don't really fit into the "portfolio" functionality and I'm wondering if I could find a way to use it to my advantage. I was thinking perhaps that I could highlight some key reviews and positive results along with the customers brand name rather than just dumping in a relatively boring text document. Would that be acceptable within the T&C's?
Highlighting reviews in your portfolio might be tricky, because they're not your work; they're testimonials. I'm not saying you can't do it, but I wouldn't if I were in your shoes.
What you could do is put together some slick presentations that you give to your clients. Think of a "Your numbers at a glance" kind of thing. Make it look sharp and highlight key stats/info that the client (and potential clients) can quickly look over to see your expertise.
As long as that's part of what you're offering to the buyer, it should be fine to include in your portfolio. But make sure the buyer is ok with you sharing the report first. Doing that without their permission is a big no-no.
Just to be on the safe side, I'd suggest checking in with support to confirm. But I'd think they'd be cool with it.
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18 minutes ago, mushramusic said:
It's absolutely silly rules and no respect for our time and efforts.
Is it silly of Fiverr to not allow sellers who copy/paste other people's gig description a place on their platform? I wouldn't say that the sellers who stole my gig description was respecting my time and effort in making them.
18 minutes ago, mushramusic said:We don't have a right to make mistakes at all on this platform.
Being on Fiverr is not a right. It's a privilege. This isn't a public utility or a government institution. It's a corporation. As such, they can do pretty much whatever they want within the law.
18 minutes ago, mushramusic said:Within the first hour after my friend created an account, he received several spam messages asking him to share his private info via another app/site. You Fiverr better do something with all these spammers instead of kidding normal sellers.
So Fiverr should ignore theft of other sellers intellectual property because of spammers?
Look - I get that you're angry and I'm not here to be the judge of what you did or did not do. I'm just explaining to you why Fiverr acts like it does. If you think that's treating people like "garbage", I'm not sure why you'd want to stay.
With all that said: your only option at this point is raising another ticket with support. It probably won't lead anywhere, which is why I prefer to tell it like it is, based on my experience after being on the platform for a decade and seeing sellers in all sorts of situations, including this one, many times.
But you're free to do with your time as you please, so know that the option of contacting support again is there, if you want to go that route.
Perhaps someone else will respond because they've experienced this themselves, but I doubt it for one reason: they're not here anymore.
Anyway, I wish you the best of luck, and I'm sorry we can't do more for you here on the forum.
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Just now, mushramusic said:
Great, and as I said before, I know what mistakes I made. But could you please tell me how in the world I can restore at least the opportunity of creating new gigs? I'd be glad to make it right now. But support is so unsupportive, they aren't gonna help me
I didn't say you weren't aware it was a mistake, now that you've made it. That's why I always make it a point to learn all I can about a platform before I get started. I read the rules, basically.
I can't tell you how to restore the opportunity of creating new gigs, because you can't.
Support has already told you their decision is final, and the team making those calls aren't the same ones answering your request.
Like you mentioned, they're not going to help you out. I get that's not what you're hoping to hear, but I'm just trying to spare you the headache of trying to sort this out after the fact.
Fiverr takes originality seriously, and since a lot of sellers try to steal gig descriptions and material from others (it has happened to me), they're not exactly forgiving when someone does it, even if it was a "mistake".
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And I'm not sure how you plan on convincing support, given that they've already told you their decision is final.
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35 minutes ago, mushramusic said:
1) I've been creating my gig simultaneously with another artist, and we used in our descriptions some similar phrases, of course, it wasn't copy-paste, there were many differences. The artist created his Gig first, then I created it 10 minutes later.
2) I used an image from the internet (I double checked it was under a Creatives Commons license), seems like this can be an issue
But I don't see ANY reason why Fiverr may consider these mistakes irreversible. Why don't allow me to fix it?So you copied someone elses gig description and used an image from the web that's not unique and could have been used by multiple other sellers. That's your reason.
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On 4/3/2024 at 8:01 AM, emmaki said:
We can point to the bogeyman of AI, increased cost of living, all that stuff. Or we could look at what buyers are actually telling us.
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Are Fiverr's own review systems harming its bottom line by causing sellers to reject customers who could damage their profile? Is this causing otherwise "good" new buyers to leave?
I think so, but I also believe it was like that even before the switch. Sellers have beensanitizing their reviews for a long time,avoiding anyone they thought might be a hassle to work with.
But is it just about the reviews, or is it more about the experience we anticipate with those buyers? This doesn't seem new to me. I've had buyers who've been turned away by others come to me, and rejected them because it tells me two things: they've set off alarms with others, and I wasn't their first pick. So, why should I take them on? Just because they couldn't find anyone else? Nah.
P.S. Your buyer seemed like a creep. Why would someone insist so badly on buying something you're not offering? Heebie-jeebies.
If this is happening more now than before, it's likely a combination of the new review system, increasing use of AI by sellers, and a rise in prices.
When half the "pros" don't really know what they're doing and lean on AI to get by, I bet they're more likely to say no to jobs that need real skills. That contributes to buyer loss for sure. The jobs that don't could probably be done with AI by the buyer themselves.
Add the AI-pocalypse to that, and I'd say this isn't a coincidence.
I also think many buyers have left because it's no longer justa place for cheap value deals. Fiverr is aiming for fewer buyers who spend more, and that's what's happening. They've been saying so for years, and average spend per buyer seems important to them.
Just look at the top of the Q4 Shareholder letter. The seller featured on the first page is listed at 5000. I think higher pricing is driving away bargain hunters who expected to get their simple tasks done cheaply. Now, those gigs are way down in the search results, and if you ask Neo for something affordable, it's likely to show you the most expensive gig on Fiverr. Twisted sense of humor, that one.
And let's not forget the pandemic. Fiverr skyrocketed during that time. We all knew it couldn't last forever.
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21 hours ago, arqdesigncas said:
So im a rather new member at fiverr, with my objective being to hopefully share my work with anyone who contacts me while also earning a bit of money doing it. So with that I applied to be a seller on fiverr and created my first gig took me a few days to get it to be perfect and finally make it online, only to just 3 hours after, I see that im blocked from selling on fiverr, no warning, no explanation and no justification. So of course I turned to customer support to try and get some explanation and some help as to what change to become a seller again, and of course I receive an automatic message saying the decision is final again no explanation as to why I cant sell on fiverr. I write another response but I was ignored, I contacted again and got the same response and ignored once again. This continued 3 more times, me getting an automatic response and being ignored, with no explanation or justification as to why I cant sell on fiverr. I tried to find reasons as to why this is happening and the only reason im able to find is descrimination to my self and since I had to provide with a foto of myself and my ID card there could be racism involved aswell, since I dont get any explanation these are my reasons and this has been my experience with fiverr.
Saying racism is the reason your gig got rejected is off-base. Sorry to say, but Fiverr has hundreds of thousands of members from all over the globe.
I get you're upset, and dealing with support can be a hassle, but it's more likely your gig got denied for not following Fiverr's terms.
We're all just sellers or buyers here, so we can't tell you the precise reason. You should check your email. Fiverr typically sends out an email explaining why your gig was denied and about other account issues.
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You could raise a ticket with support to get more help with this. It might be a bug or issue with your verification method.
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Unfortunately, there's nothing we can do about account issues like this here on the forum. We can't do anything about how support replies or the outcome of this for you here.
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Beyond bringing anything resembling Slack into the picture (please don't) I think these are good ideas. Labels and private notes are great ideas that would make things easier for sellers. With that said, I don't see how it can be rude to ask the buyer to communicate on the order page as they should. If you end up in a dispute, it's easier to have everything in one place. But I wish they would add more inbox-like messaging system for the order page. I've mentioned it in my meetings with product managers at Fiverr, but so far, crickets.
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7 minutes ago, najeeb1100 said:
Can I use Green Screen for my Intro video?
I don't see why not. As long as it's the real you infront of the green screen.
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Success score system is faulty - Bring back the old seller level system!!
in Fiverr.com Feedback
Posted · Edited by smashradio
A week of anger, a month of anger, a year of anger. It's not going to change anything. Unless all the good sellers pack up and leave, nothing's going to change. I've often said I'd prefer to live in a dictatorship knowing it's a dictatorship, rather than in one pretending to be democratic. At least then you know what you're dealing with. Same thing here. If I'm spending all my time raging about things to someone not listening, I'm getting nowhere. And to be honest, we were a pretty small group of sellers raging on here. 99% of us just got on with it, some left and that's that.
I hear you sighing, but I'm not about to rally for a union over this, even though I genuinely think Fiverr is going in the wrong direction. The numbers do the talking, and I'll let the red ticker show that to leadership. It's less work. Meanwhile I'll sell as many articles and voiceovers as possible, having a laugh at Fiverrs expense from time to time. But I won't sit here and be angry. I've got enough anger on my plate with my toddler who refuses to pee, get dressed, eat his banana, drink his water, brush his teeth, or walk like a normal human being to the bus stop because he's discovered the joy of being towed by a cranky, sleep-deprived dad, juggling a child seat, backpack and his bad mood because he had to start working when he had his morning coffee because the authorities decided to issue a wind and heat wave warning at 6 a.m.
You just have to imagine the muted *thump* of my head hitting a wall in another room.