[Fiverr 4.0 - Some thoughts on the current state of things]

37 minutes ago, donnovan86 said:

You would be amazed what kind of "buyers" are on the platform. I had someone order from me just so .. let's say insult me, I won't write what they said. True, that was in the early days but still. I had other person that wanted me to promote their website where they were selling fake passports and IDs. So yeah, it depends on the niche, but you will find some very shady buyers. Writing gigs will certainly attract that kind of people, but they are not the only ones.. 

I've had all sorts of nonsense over the years and won't mention or bore you with the details. Probably less now than in the early days thankfully. 

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2 hours ago, donnovan86 said:

That's the thing, a lot of people either harass buyers to get paid or they offer a cancellation to protect a high rating they have for their gigs. That leads to some buyers missing deadlines and losing way more money. So I am sure many buyers complained to Fiverr, and they are taking action. If you offer great service, there's nothing to worry. Of course there can be times when this might backfire even for the best sellers. But in the end, it will weed out a lot of bad sellers for sure. I am not sure when this new measure starts, most likely Monday or so, which means we are just a few days away from seeing cancellation reviews on the platform.

Apparently these cancellations will have their own tag, so people know it's from canceled orders. 

In all of the years on this platform, I can't remember harassing a buyer, as most of my gig promotions are 30+ days. So that doesn't apply to a few sellers due to the type of promotion they offer. I have tried to cancel a few orders in the past for the reason you mentioned above. Mainly due to the nature of buyer attitude. The level of service each seller offers is subjective, but if you do each job to the best of your ability and try to over-deliver then, that should be enough.

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13 hours ago, josephinegold said:

Absolutely Do Not Agree with This Decision, Fiverr's New Policy Is Helpful for Fake Buyers & Gig Competitors Who Want to Decrease Profits on This Platform. We Absolutely Do Not Agree with This New Policy Fiverr Team Must Need to Take Action and Change This Policy, Please.

I don't either, as it's open to abuse. I still like the platform though and if you keep giving customers good service, things will sort themselves out going forward.  

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Just now, newsmike said:

Yes you are, but I was being polite by not pointing it out directly. 

Try and be impolite next time.

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1 hour ago, newsmike said:

Perhaps if you searched and educated yourself on years of forum history you would know, fella. Have you considered educating yourself PRIOR to posting? 

How ignorant!

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58 minutes ago, donnovan86 said:

Fiverr started focusing more on first time buyer reviews. So if someone is new to Fiverr or they buy from you for the first time, their private review weighs a lot more than a regular review. I am with you on this.. since February I've had the worst year on Fiverr. I am sure AI has a role to play here, but even then there are sellers with a dozen or dozens of orders in queue. 

That's me ruined sort of. As I don't seem to get any new inquiries or orders. All repeat buyers now, as Fiverr don't seem to feature my gigs in their "best seller" or "recommended" searches for some bizarre reason.  

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13 minutes ago, carrotymusic said:

I have 1000+ completed orders on Fiverr as a seller. And I want to say that I am worry about this update. There are many buyers who will manipulate this update 😞 I hope everything will be fine... I wish you all the best

I've been on the platform for over 12 years and basically close to the beginning of its journey. I can see how things seem to be shaping up and how certain sellers will be pushed to the side. A lot will be to do with what you're selling and how go it's being received by customers. The length of time and how many completed orders you've achieved will have little bearing on how things go for you (I think).  

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16 hours ago, newsmike said:

It isn't. We have demonstrated in the past that forum posts contain both sides of the argument. Sellers and buyers make the same claim "Fiverr only cares about the other people" every time a decision goes against them. Humans are subjective and only see how things affect them.   

It is fella. It's mainly geared towards what the buyers needs, wants and should get. The sellers are secondary to most things things. Who is "we"?

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2 hours ago, nikoleta_dev said:

So, I read the new update related to the new option for adding feedback to cancelled orders, but my main concern is why is it only one-sided towards the buyer. Isn't our opinion in such situations also valid? Some cancelled orders are due to miscommunication or business mismatch, and I believe both sides should have the right to leave an opinion about why the collaboration/order was cancelled. What do you all think?

Here is a link to the full update.

Indeed and I put this type of issue on more than one occasion to Fiverr admin. Why is this platform so buyer-centric? I've mentioned that in order for any business to do well and succeed you need both buyers and good sellers both working in harmony with each other. Not one or the other! All I see from Fiver updates is the buyer can now do this and the buyer can now do that.   

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On 6/11/2023 at 6:47 AM, filipdevaere said:

I lost it. 99 again.

You still have the hyperactive trophy next to your gig though and that's what matters. I've had a healthy set of scores for months now and have been stuck on 94.

 

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19 hours ago, tme2012 said:

Upwork reduced its fees for newcomers to keep them interested, but is clearly hurting for income, so they shoved the dagger into the revenue of people who have long-term, established relationships on the site. For a couple of years, I was down to just one client on Upwork who I work for about 4-5 months a year writing reports. We passed the $10,000 barrier years ago, which was the mark previously where Upwork dropped their cut from 10% to 5%. They have since realized that taking 20% of the first $500 was slaughtering their model and caused a mass exodus from the site, so they've reversed that, but also reversed the 5% back up to 10% as of the end of this year, because they figured out that's where the consistent money is. If I make the same income this year that I did last year from that one job, Upwork's policy change will cost me $500.

Their cut is better than Fiverr's, but for all of Fiverr's spam problems, the Pro Plus program is still light years ahead of anything Upwork can offer. I've been truly active on Fiverr since 2019 and made double the money here that I've being on Upwork since 2013. 

So they've basically moved the goalposts in order to generate their revenue from customers. More favorable on the newbie side and penalized more for being established. 

I've been on Fiverr for more years than I care to remember.  I preferred their old ways of ranking and how they rewarded sellers fairly for hard work.  Not like now and their strange algorithm, which can turn against you quite quickly and turn a full-time into a part-time income.

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1 hour ago, mb100 said:

Correct. The 4y chart shows the undulations and the huge spike in the middle. If you bought in 2019 and sold in 2021 you'd have made a fortune. It's now (June 2023) back to slightly less than were it started its journey four years ago. Not actually in a healthy position as things stand. Greed and fear at work in the middle and what drives the stock markets!    

It was at its peak during the Covid/lockdown period. Everyone was at home and the online world was crazy at its peak. Now it's levels are slightly less than pre-Covid and more sustainable.

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On 6/4/2023 at 10:34 PM, donnovan86 said:

Yeah, I agree. I didn't expect that huge price to last. I always thought that Fiverr's stock would stay within $20 to $30, with the potential to become more expensive as the company grows. But I am not a stock dude myself so.. 

Correct. The 4y chart shows the undulations and the huge spike in the middle. If you bought in 2019 and sold in 2021 you'd have made a fortune. It's now (June 2023) back to slightly less than were it started its journey four years ago. Not actually in a healthy position as things stand. Greed and fear at work in the middle and what drives the stock markets!    

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On 6/4/2023 at 9:24 PM, smashradio said:

I never understood the feature. It should be a percentage only, in my opinion. As always, the lack of transparency is uninspiring. 

The platform seemed a fairer place back in the early days and you could ask them to push your gig. Certainly not now and if the algorithm net doesn't favor you and your gigs then, best of luck.

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It's rubbish. It may as well be 44%. I've had this for months and never had the RBS OF 95%. Why tease sellers with this!

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Their algorithm seems to like you. It sure don't like me. I've been stuck on 94% for months and in that time my orders have fluctuated.

A flawed concept me thinks!