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matty_bates

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  1. Appreciate it, thanks. I sort of assumed it might be against the terms but figured I should check. I just want to be clear for the record and state I would never break any terms, I am all about staying within the rules.
  2. Miiilia, thats real kind of you to take a look, thanks so much. I will do that today - maybe incorporate into the gig image also somehow? Well spotted with the Amazon thing, will sort that today also. Thanks again, much appreciated!
  3. Gotcha, thanks. Yah I suspected it might be against the rules, and honestly I will avoid it. Fiverr are not stupid and would spot it a mile off I suppose. I just joined a bunch of groups this week and have already left most of them as they do seem very very spammy indeed. I'm out of ideas, guess its just a case of sitting back and waiting for organic growth. I didn't expect it to be this slow but then again I am in the copywriting genre which is incredibly competitive so I imagine its going to take time.
  4. Ok, fair enough. Dont get me wrong, I am not about cheating, although my question probably contradicts that statement a little. I dunno... I guess I have just been toying with the idea of other ways to drive traffic, and this popped up. I wont do it, I am 100% behind staying within the rules. Thanks.
  5. I haven't looked into it yet - just seen a few people promoting this service on a couple of Fiverr groups. I guess these people somehow have access to a bunch of Fiverr accounts who will order jobs from you at minimum price limit, which you then refund, and leave great reviews. I mean without even talking to any of these people, I'm assuming it is exactly that. It can only be that, I guess. First of, is that legal, for want of a better word? I mean does it break any Fiverr rules? I am guessing it does and if so, I will avoid it like the plague, dont worry. I am all about staying within the rules. If it isn't against any Fiverr rules, has anyone tried the service and is it worth it? If it is somehow fine owing to some loophole or something, I guess its worth looking at? I have tried everything else in the four months I have had a seller account and my gigs are doing nothing. I have followed all tips and advice, the prices are on the floor to encourage new business which leads to organic reviews, wrote and re-wrote each gig carefully, keywords checked and triple checked, posted on various social media and even punted out a few hundred cold emails, so I honestly have put effort into pushing my gigs but the impressions and clicks are hysterically low lol. I figured maybe there is a way to promote my gigs through outlaying expense, and in the process of looking noticed this paid review thing. Just need to know if its 'legal' or not and if its worth it. Thanks Matty
  6. Thanks for the reply. I agree with you, mostly. I would ask that you read between the lines a little though because half of what I say is tongue in cheek. This being a community forum, we can drop our professional guards and speak from the heart a little more. Have a crack, almost? I am not a fan of any SM platform to be honest. I used to be active on Facebook 10 years back but have grown tired of the narcissistic nature of it. Its boring. I dont care that you brought a new pair of shoes, or booked a holiday, or had lobster. I dont need some pithy quoted meme ramming down my throat about some life lesson or other. That's all it is these days - people showing off, bragging, posturing. So yes, I find it all a bit annoying to be honest but I wouldn't go as far as saying I 'despise' SM, that is a stretch. I just dont like it and would rather not get involved. I think this whole Fiverr experience has been a misunderstanding on my part. I genuinely didn't realize that you needed to go hell for leather promoting your gigs. I wrongly assumed that capability and effort would be the only requirement for measurable success. I used to work very hard, very long hours for a full 12 years but the money was huge, I travelled the world in luxury, and led a really great life because of those long hours. I am fine with hard work and dont mind hustling. I launched the business and got off the ground purely by hustling as I had no advertising budget to begin with and believe it or not, became one of the biggest broadcast messaging companies in the world (very niche though, low competition, I admit). I have been self employed, or a business owner, for 24 of my 48 years so I know more than many on here what it takes to work for yourself. What I cant be bothered with is sitting here half the day, every day, posting on social media about what a great copywriter I am, begging for $30 copywriting jobs. If thats what I have to do, fine I will do it. I just didn't expect to have to do it. I am still none the wiser, by the way, to my original post... How the hell you are supposed to promote copywriting through social media. I think I mentioned my Aunt Vera wouldn't be interested, so I presume I must join some groups and start giving it the old 'hey check out my gig' nonsense lol 🙂 Ill get googling and look for some clues about sm promotion. Anyway thanks for your feedback - and by the way, well done for making a success of freelancing. I'm glad its working out for you 🙂
  7. Thanks for your replies, we are in agreement I think. I see your point about cheap pricing and the impression it portrays, but it is a chicken and egg thing isn't it. In order to win clients, you need reviews and a portfolio, however brief that might be, of your work. No reviews, and clients are not going to spend $100 on a couple of well written emails, I dont think. To get those reviews you need clients though. Tricky one 🙂
  8. Ha! That actually made me chuckle, although I appreciate that wasn't your intention 🙂 I think you might be right - I mean when you type it all out like that, it does make me look a little petulant, I guess. I think I have probably been a little naïve, assuming that orders would find you, if you are capable of doing a great job. I guess you are correct and promotion is a factor in winning at this. I do actually have a background in marketing and promotion but it was quite a niche industry I was in, and promoting myself is an entirely different matter. Is it a terrible thing to say that I just cant be bothered? I think it might be. I am happy to sit here all day, earning my money by actually writing, but all the rest of it.... Christ, I literally cant be bothered! Messing around posting on various Facebook and Redditt groups, setting up LinkedIn accounts and firing out messages, fishing for business, sending out hundreds of personalized messages when hundreds of other people are doing the same and getting the occasional reply if you are lucky... Ah man, what an absolute chore. I just figured, you know, this would be a welcome respite from aggressively fishing for business. I spent years doing that in my last game and whilst I made it work, im tired of it. I just want to earn a living by doing a great job, without the stress of starting each day by saying "right, how am I going to find some business". Shitty attitude I guess, but there it is 🙂
  9. Hello people. I set up an account in February which is currently offering just two gigs - product descriptions and email copy. I plan on uploading a few more over the next couple of weeks, all of which relate to writing in one form or another. Since Feb, I have amassed the grand total of one job consisting of two product descriptions, which paid the princely sum of $5, or $2.50 per description. I know, I know... its a dizzying amount of money and you will be pleased to know that I haven't blown it - it was invested wisely. Also since Feb, the product description job has earned 350 impressions, which I am led to believe isn't too great. So I have followed some tips posted within this forum, along with some various YouTube tips from established fiverr sellers. They all say the same really: tweak your gig regularly, nail the SEO, make sure you stand out from the crowd, offer cheap services initially, and promote to death on socials. Lets look at that then. Tweaking your gig - easy enough. I have been editing the content every couple of weeks since Feb. I have also just ordered a new 'snazzy' gig image which I will hopefully upload in a couple days. SEO - am I missing something with this? I mean its dead obvious and hardly worth mentioning as a tip, is it? You simply make sure the words 'product descriptions' are adequately represented within your title and about section. So yes, thats done. I would have thought that is common sense and am surprised this is offered as a tip in the first place. Stand out from the crowd - this is also a daft tip, in my opinion. All we can do is create a nice gig image, a great title and a nice description. How else are we to stand out from the crowd? Its not like I can jump inside my laptop, crawl over to my gig, and start juggling firesticks in front of it while shouting "ROLL UP! ROLL UP!" or something. Unless I am being old and stupid, I fail to grasp one single method other than a well thought image and title, that might pertain to 'standing out from the crowd'. Cheap - done that. I have suitably bent over and invited prospective clients to roger me, firmly and without lubrication, in order to win a few reviews. The only problem with this tip as far as I can see, is the huge amount of sellers in copywriting also bending over and asking to be rogered hard, and so this method is making little difference on the whole. From a buyers point of view who cares if you are dirt cheap? So are two hundred others! Which brings me on to my final point: Saturation - Am I just too late to the party? Copywriting is the jumping-off point for the average person looking to sell on this platform, or so it seems. I think it might have been saturated for a while. recently though there have been a few viral videos doing the rounds created by Fiverr copywriters, all of whom are selling the dream of making big money with zero experience or qualifications, all whilst sat on your arse at home. One seller in particular claims to be making half a million per year copywriting. I am guessing this just encourages even more new sellers to join. The most baffling of all tips, at least to my mind, is to promote through social media. How? I have 65 friends on my Facebook. I doubt my 76 year old Aunty Vera is in need of copywriting services in between knitting a new scarf and weeding the garden. I have a twitter account with a couple of random followers. TikTok can feck right off, I am not a teenager and I refuse to behave like one for the camera. So again I ask, am I missing something? How are we supposed to use socials to promote? Spam random strangers with messages advertising copywriting services? Join various groups and beg for work? I think the truth is I am probably destined for failure at this and thats a shame, as its my only hope right now. My once thriving online business is over thanks to covid and I was hoping this might be a new career. I enjoy writing and have some experience at writing copy through my own ventures over the last couple decades. I thought this might be a way to earn a living for a few years, whilst I figured out something more long term. I am capable of the actual writing and genuinely enjoy it, to a point. What I am not so interested in is promoting through social media, joining sodding LinkedIn and touting my services left right and center or any of that nonsense. For want of a better word, I just cant be arsed. I figured being capable of doing the job quite well would be all I need, to do ok with Fiverr. Maybe its not as simple as that? Any tips, apart from the obvious?
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