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gmseifer

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  1. @gajuseidi I have not said a lot, nor have I been on Fiverr for a long time. As an intelligent thinking individual, I must warn you, you are treading a very thin sheet of ice. Sanctions are not an incorrect way to deal with a country that has earned them, like Russia in this case. Sanctions are simply a penalty for disobeying a law, or rule. The one who disobeyed in this case is Putin, and the country he controls, Russia. However, what is happening with this, and other freelancer websites is a rather unprecedented situation. Historically speaking, Country wide sanctions were imposed by other Countries, physical entities, and corporations that have physical goods and services. The sanctions imposed are designed to economically cripple and diminish the one being punished for their choice to disobey. The valid argument that is being made against Fiverr's choice to join in the punishment of Russia is that the majority of freelancers here do not currently contribute to the economy of Russia through their taxes. A valid counter point to that being, they take the money earned outside of the country to buy taxable goods, such as food, power, water, and internet access. The money they earn as freelancers, vs the money they would make by contributing to their societal ecosystem comes from two different places. One comes from within the countries border, the other from outside of the border. Which gives the required justification to impose the sanction on the money from outside the border, as a Global Sanction. By agreeing that the imposed punishment to the Russian people to restrict their sources of outside-the-country income is justified and the right thing to do, you are also agreeing that they should not be able to purchase food, water, power, and internet access, unless they earn the required money strictly within their societal ecosystem. The problem with that line of thinking, is that you are inadvertently agreeing that they do not have a right to basic human rights of global commerce within a world where the internet connects us on a level greater than any country or township can. What makes this unprecedented is the fact that the sanctions are not solely from physical goods and services, but Internet services too. What makes people uncomfortable with that, is as a community on the internet, we are more than just our country of origin, or ethnicity. We are individuals who have come together over similar thoughts, feelings, and ideals. And to take that from people is to reduce them back down from the status as equals on the internet to "Russians" or "Ukrainians" or any other title that you see fit. Is anyone here arguing that Russia is doing the right thing by invading Ukraine? No, no one here is taking that position. In fact that is the one thing everyone here seems to agree on, that the war is unwelcome. What everyone is arguing, is that it is illogical for internet companies like Fiverr to impose sanctions on the Russian people in an effort to affect the Russian government. What you are arguing is that Fiverr has a good reason to make this choice and take this action. I, personally am not so sure. I have not seen any evidence to suggest it is more than a political stance taking a side in the conflict. The CEO Micha Kaufman said: "Our hearts break for the people of Ukraine and we join the world in grieving for the lives lost and destroyed due to the senseless and unjustifiable violence. We also mourn with our global community of freelancers and business owners, who work daily across borders, languages, and cultures to create opportunity. They know that any conflict that divides like-minded and good people into "us vs. them" represents a loss for all of humanity and is contrary to everything the Fiverr community stands for." This acknowledges the point I brought up earlier that in an online community, the Fiverr community more specifically. We are more than our ethnicity, country of origin, or religious views. We are a community. After a statement like this, the continued statement falls flat and rings ultimately hollow. If Micha truly believed in the words he stated in this quote, then it would continue to be about the community on Fiverr, not about where you happen to live. Ultimately @gajuseidi, your argument that "they must have good reason" to impose these sanctions on their users is not a logically driven statement. You do not have empirical proof that Fiverr has made this decision with any sense of good faith to the community of Fiverr, you only have evidence that it was made out of popular choice mentality, the only evidence you have of anything is in the original post made by mjensen415, quoting Micha Kaufmans communication. which ultimately proves that Fiverr is playing a game of follow the leader, not making an intelligent decision for the good of the internet community.
  2. I send a lot of my clients to a Russian artist for work before game sessions start. With their account suspended. I would like a reasonable way to reach out to them to arrange something outside of Fiverr. I understand the political happenings, and that this is a way for Fiverr to politically take a stance with Ukraine. But just because the artist in question is from Russia, does not mean they support what is happening in Russia. To remove access to his services based on his geographical location is unethical at best.
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