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williambryan392

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  1. This is wrong and terrible advice. Being online doesn't make a difference. Being active on the forum doesn't make any difference. Where did you learn this?
  2. Yeah it's a risk for sure to be missing out on work. I'm sure I've lost out to some that do the call for free. To be honest the no free call rule is one I follow 99% of the time. I've tried to be more accommodating of seemingly more professional clients, but even then sometimes they've ghosted. Not even a 'no thank you', just ghosted, and if they do that I feel like an idiot. Funnily enough I also had someone come back to me a couple of weeks ago for LinkedIn. He's C-Level at a multi Bn company, so a very professional guy and I thought he'd gone with someone else but when he came back he said I was the only one that wouldn't do a call for free, and that separated me from everyone else. I must be good (in his words). I just feel sorry for all the others that did give him free calls 😆
  3. I think they can inform you in writing. I've had some decent clients recently (amongst the usual) that specifically went for a consultation just to meet me. They both said words to the effect of 'this is important, the cost is not the issue, me finding the right person is.' This morning I had someone send me a diary link to schedule 30 minutes to interview to write his pitch deck. No thank you. My fiverr model for a number of gigs is that people pay for my time for consulting, so I have to be very careful about giving it away for free. For other niches the free call can make a lot more sense. My Fiverr model just doesn't work like that. I suppose I just think that if someone isn't willing to pay X for a call, then it's unlikely they'll pay X*10 for the work. When the work is X*1 or 2 I understand them being less willing to pay for a call. Either way, I always remember 'free has no value', and people that don't respect that your time has a value probably aren't that great to work with. Sometimes people ask for an introductory call, to decide if they want to purchase the gig for a call. I act confused... so you want a free call to see if you want to pay for a call...
  4. I shouldn't but I allow it to annoy me, I reply saying I think you messaged the wrong person and I hope so and so can help you out
  5. The bug has been corrected for me. It was nice to dream while it lasted 😆
  6. Fine, let me rephrase. The way they are referring to 'freelancers' makes me think they don't specifically mean Fiverr Verified Pros. And again, I could be wrong. I don't know. I suppose a support ticket could answer this instead of us debating lol
  7. That's what I'm thinking @newsmike, also the way they are referring to 'freelancers' makes me think they don't specifically mean Fiverr sellers. FE is an FMS, on that FMS they can hire Fiverr pros, but also manage their other freelance talent. Obviously I could be completely wrong. I just don't see Fiverr letting go of 20%, and if they did not making a bigger song and dance about it.
  8. I'm wondering... have they specifically said that there is no 20% fee, or are we inferring it from the statement 'freelancers get 100%'? Because maybe (and I'm just speculating) if this is an FMS, then it might apply to non Fiverr freelancers that the company onboards to that FMS, assuming of course it has been designed with non Fiverr freelancers in mind as well. I haven't read through all the docs, I'm being lazy, but I'm just a little surprised Fiverr didn't make more of a song and dance about this because it is pretty awesome if that's the case.
  9. Hello @real__leads, Sorry to hear you're having a tough time. The only people who can help you are the support team (support@fiverr.com). People on the forum are unable to give account specific help and advice. Good luck with your account.
  10. I think the extra 10 bucks gets you a success manager in addition. yeah who knows! Pure guess work. Why not charge both though. It would again help to remove gigs that aren't performing from the platform. I don't know enough about it, but if Fiverr gave me the option to earn something passively I don't think I'd hate it.
  11. I think we almost need an entirely separate thread for speculation here. What could this next big release be? 2 things that come to mind for me are maybe... -Listing / gig fees -Expansion of the AI/automated (whatever it is) logo maker to other categories.
  12. Perhaps they did that to get that seller some orders, so that seller stayed engaged with the platform. That way Fiverr have another engaged seller to offer buyers more choice when it comes to sellers. Perhaps they felt you were engaged enough with the platform. It's just speculation on my part, but there's likely a number of reasons why Fiverr chooses to give someone the Fiverr choice badge, and it's not necessarily just because they do good work. It could be to serve Fiverr's goals of creating a dynamic and varied marketplace of lots of engaged sellers and happy buyer. It's perhaps like why people often talk about a slump in sales (old system) when they hit level 2. Perhaps Fiverr decides at that point you've worked hard on your profile, you're committed as a seller, and so they can redirect some traffic to other/newer sellers to make sure they're engaged. Again, I'm just speculating. It could also be a bug! Who knows!
  13. Perhaps! There's no way to know of course. That's where I'd disagree. In this thread we've maybe discussed dozens, or perhaps over a hundred different things (data points) that can impact score. Let's say though Fiverr looks at a 1000 different data points (I'm purely guessing at a number). Compare that to algorithms that analyze financial markets and might process millions of transactions and signals in real time to make predictions or execute trades. That's a lot more than a 1000. Or big data analytics where there are algorithms that are designed to get insights from massive datasets. These datasets can contain billions to trillions of data points, covering everything from internet search queries to transactions across global financial markets to the weather. Or there's OpenAI, or BERT by Google which processes and learns from such a crazy amount of data, potentially even billions of data points (e.g., words, sentences) to train their parameters. There is definitely the tech/machines/capabilities to do this on Fiverr. Now whether they are doing it or not, or doing it well is another question. But for a company that's worth just under a billion USD now, or was close to being worth $12 billion USD at its peak, I really don't think it's far fetched that they would have the resources or skills to build a system that considers hundreds or even thousands of data points to compare sellers to one another, and match sellers with buyers effectively.
  14. Massive agree! That's why I stopped looking at the competition a while ago. It stressed me out!
  15. Maybe, maybe not. If you were Fiverr, and you could do this, you probably would as it's yet another data point to help compare you against hundreds/thousands/millions of sellers.
  16. This is all you can do I think. That's my approach. Not directly no, but indirectly if your competition is getting manually accepted orders then they could be.
  17. Maybe, maybe not, what if another seller that you're compared against has delivered two orders in the same period, or quicker, or left higher reviews, or their communication was judged to be better, or they sold more gig extras. You might have done well on your order, perhaps the competition did better.
  18. Fiverr definitely values manually accepted/completed over auto completed, the email made that clear (I wish I could find it!), and it doesn't surprise me, it kinda makes sense, but it is just one of many, many things they look at I think. Like you a lot of my orders autocomplete. This is definitely an issue, and probably amongst the most important, but also one of many that may impact I think. What if an order auto completes but the last messages in the chat from the buyer is 'I love this, you're brilliant, thank you!', and you reply, 'my pleasure, it was great to work with you, let me know if I can help with anything else'. Does Fiverr not look at that as well? I'm not saying they do, but I think it's very feasible that they do and this is just another data point. I think one of the main problems that people are wrestling with re this new system is that we're trying to find the key things that will make us successful on Fiverr, and I think it is so multi-faceted, there isn't one thing that makes or breaks.
  19. Kinda, but with extra steps I think. As @johnparsons01 said autocomplete can suggest the buyer is disengaged. More importantly though I think when compared to other sellers it's not good for us if their orders are not being autocompleted. It's all relative between sellers. We know that the review of a new buyer to the platform matters more because Fiverr wants them to have a great experience and buy again. Someone who has purchased a lot already probably matters less, and someone who has purchased a lot from you already probably matters even less. I expect this also affects how impactful an auto-completed order is. If that same buyer buys again from you (or someone else) it maybe also negates the autocomplete impact to a degree. If that buyer always lets orders auto-complete it maybe also negates the impact to a degree. If they usually accept the delivery and rate and review, but don't with you then it probably has more impact. I expect there are hundreds of data points that in turn impact the importance of other data points, which in turn impacts the score. I even recall seeing an email or a post from a success manager (I can't find it) saying that we should actively try to get the order accepted as this gives a stronger indication the order has gone well / buyer is happy with the deliverable.
  20. Okay you sucked me back in, but I'm off to bed after this comment... And you don't know my level status either or my success score- you don't know where I stand. You're making an assumption based on my views of the new system. Yes they might, or they might not. That's been something I've constantly said. The fear doesn't help. We have to wait and see what the actual impact is. Ups and downs are normal on Fiverr. For the data to be meaningful we'd have to give it a few months at least to judge. Anyway, night all.
  21. I respond to rudeness in the same way I would respond to bullies: once, make my point, and then I'll move on and ignore. On this note what was quite a constructive and engaging back and forth is no longer quite so constructive (in my subjective opinion) so I'll leave it here for now.
  22. And this is something we can both agree on. Same with people that use AI but don't mention it. Who on earth said it hadn't!? Massive assumption on your part. If you want the facts. February was my lowest revenue month for over 2 years, about 75% lower than my average month. You're just assuming that everything is fine with me because I'm not slamming the new system. The arguments can go both ways. Successful sellers can say they don't like it, and sellers that are getting hammered by it can say they do. That's allowed...
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