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Remember how there were disagreements on the forum about whether there was a ranking system in Fiverr for search results/gigs.
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On 12/13/2022 at 10:48 AM, noirparliament_ said:As far as I know and also what senior community members have repeatedly said, there is no such thing as ranking in the Fiverr search result
On 1/18/2023 at 1:17 PM, jonbaas said:because there is no such thing as rank in the Fiverr algorithm. Gigs are not ranked
and in the latest Fiverr webinar (How to make AI your business partner), Fiverr say:
QuoteAnd regarding search, so AI helps with search.
We use models inside our ranking system in Fiverr.
So when you search something or go into any subcategory page, we have rankers that run on top of the results that come from the query.And we rank them personally. We have some personalization algorithms there that get the list of the services, the gigs that are returned, and the user that is now active, they're creating vectors and using that to enhance the personalization experience. There is actually something that I noticed is working on right now is using more contextual search.
from 50:49 in that webinar.
So this helps prove that their is a search results (which is the gigs list) ranking system in Fiverr.
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The community standards page at https://www.fiverr.com/community/standards/prohibited-services says this:
QuoteServices that can pose financial risks for our users
Fiverr cares about the financial safety of our users and takes security of their private financial information very seriously. Services that may put our users at risk of exposing their sensitive financial information are strictly prohibited.
Do not offer, agree to provide, or ask for the services that require getting access to other user’s sensitive financial information, such as:
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Opening, managing, or implementing changes to a financial account of any kind
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Providing a loan, buying or selling currency or cryptocurrency, or trading binary options, or any other financial instruments
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Mining cryptocurrency
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Removing negative remarks from the credit score or credit history of a person, entity, or government institution, or any other credit repair related services
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Trading signals, indicators, or pre-made trading strategies
Your gig was about managing their Forex trading account and the community standards page says do not offer "Opening, managing, or implementing changes to a financial account of any kind".
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I assume it should be okay for any forum member to post their disagreements about AI as long as it's done in an okay way and being careful how it's said - nothing against any forum rules etc.
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This is what the terms of service at https://www.fiverr.com/legal-portal/legal-terms/terms-of-service
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QuoteAny necessary exchange of personal information required to continue a service may be exchanged within the Order Page.
So if it was definitely required for the order (eg. for it to be put onto a business card that the seller was designing) then it would be allowed if the buyer entered it on the order page).
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If Fiverr wants to empower AI journeys shouldn't they add a relevant AI section on the forum where there's FAQs and a section where staff would also answer questions related to AI and Fiverr? Maybe text resources could be put there too.
Fiverr did create an AI community club (though I don't think it had much resources etc. but it could have added it) and then deleted every club on the forum and now says "we want to empower your AI journey" but the AI section/club has been deleted and there's no replacement section with the resources related to AI and Fiverr (apart from the videos on the "Sellers AI hub" page) - no text info. edit: there are a few text links on that page too but not much and not much about any open source stuff.
eg. Fiverr could go into the copyright related stuff (like has been mentioned - with the community standards saying we need to have copyright in the AI generated output but but other places say AI generated output can't be copyrighted - at least as they are) and copyright related to the AIs training data.
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2 hours ago, sannansyed said:
Additionally, as a programmer, I suggest that they retrieve the user's time from the client-side. I.e., use the frontend JavaScript to simply generate the current time and stream it to the server.
Isn't a problem with that that the client's device might not be on or they might have no connection to it? Plus if it was constantly streaming it couldn't take bandwidth? And it might occasionally have the wrong time on their device. If the buyer has turned their device(s) off their other methods (eg. using the geolocation/IP address/saved country settings (though some countries have >1 timezone) could work (eg. it could still say the time in the buyer's timezone even if the buyer's device(s) were turned off).
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You could do the poll based on Fiverr level or orders per month, success score or monthly Fiverr earnings or some other non-country thing and make the results private so it could be more valid.
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38 minutes ago, ahmwritingco said:
AI makes @vibronx sad
Couldn't it be useful in game development though?
According to perplexity.AI which referenced zipdo.co in their "ai in video games section":
QuoteResearch shows that advanced AI in video games can increase player engagement by 29%.
QuoteA recent survey of video game developers found that 92% are using AI systems.
QuoteAdvances in AI have led to a 50% reduction in the time to develop a video game.
Quote61% of surveyed game developers stated using AI to create player-related elements in video games.
Quote87% of video game developers believe AI will dominate the industry in the next ten years.
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16 minutes ago, maitasun said:
This is the greatest nonsense I've read. And, no. In any of the 4 number systems (decimal, binary, octal, and hexadecimal) you'll get that pi equals 2 or that 2 equals 1. NEVER! You can only get there by mathematical errors, or creating your own mathematics—I would love to see how far you get with the latter.
You said you could demonstrate it, so if you showed proof that in some system what you said could be the case and it was accurate proof then it should be believable.
Maybe there could be some universe where 8 of something in one could be equal to 4 of something in another.
For the Pi thing, if you had some number system (not the standard ones) that started at 0 and counted up in half Pis it could be that Pi (in our system) could equal 2 in that system.
So yes you could in theory create some number system in a programming language that counted in half Pis (eg. if it made things easier, like using degrees or radians in them might make some thing easier).
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5 minutes ago, maitasun said:
Yeah... And I can demonstrate that pi (π) equals 2, or that 8 equals 4, which in turn makes 4 equal 0 and 2 equal 1. 🙄🤦♀️
Does that make the value correct?
If you demonstrate it then I'll decide. Maybe it depends on the number system you're using. 🙂
People say pi=3.142 but that's also incorrect. It's just an approximation.
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22 minutes ago, newsmike said:
A. Math is a fixed thing with solid enough values to correctly justify not delivering what I perceive as 8 seconds, despite the fact that it is 45 minutes.
B. Math is only real when you want it t be, as long as you do something as unreasonable as changing the definition of what a 7 is?
The woman in the video went into it better. Didn't she talk about different number systems etc. where it could be different results?
And yes people could try to get around it. eg. lets say I say in one package I only do up to 8 seconds of video (to try to stop people asking for many thousands of frames of video to be rotoscoped manually). Someone could hypothetically say there's their video that's only 8 seconds but it's a 1000 frames per second video rather than a 24 fps video - maybe which was a sped up approx 45 minute video. Though there's limits put in the FAQ maybe they could ignore those.
Also Fiverr will also use programming languages where things might wrap around so might not give consistent results (such as when their prices showed 100s of times bigger or where their dates go back to around 1/1/1970. Fiverr Neo could have given a fuller answer to the question or you could have asked it more like I said. But it's also probably mostly giving the answers from the AI that it was based on. It's probably giving roughly the same answer as Google's AI (what was called Bard?).
edit: I asked Neo to give a fuller answer to the 2+2 thing and it gave this rubbish answer :
QuoteIntriguing question! As fascinating as it is, discussions about mathematical conundrums diverge from the path of Fiverr, a platform built to connect you to skilled freelancers. Let's get back on that path. Tell me more about any projects or services you need help with?
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3 minutes ago, newsmike said:
Why?
Well 1) it says so on my gig that that's the price
2) but even if it was a 1 minute job to edit/create a 45 minute video I wouldn't do it as I don't offer videos that long anyway (eg. at 1080p or more) as my upload speed isn't really good enough for that.
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10 minutes ago, newsmike said:
On your composting & visual effects gig, it states that you will provide up to 8 seconds of video for $15. What if I ordered and paid $15, and provided 45 minutes of video because I percieve 8 seconds differently from you. Will you honor that, or would reason suddenly make an appearance?
Or Fiverr pays you $85 for what should have been $100. Upon asking CS, they respond, "the math works for us in the way which we define a dollar." You happy with that? Honestly?
For the gig I wouldn't deliver a 45 minute video on the basic package, but if someone wanted something very easy and quick then I'd still do it for that price - or maybe less - even if it was up to 15 minutes long. It depends what they're asking for and how time consuming it is. The package descriptions don't really offer much room to go into specifics.
The response was about what Fiverr Neo responded with and if you ask other AIs like perplexity.ai it will tell you that in some maths contexts it might not always be the case that "2+2 would equal 4" (eg. wrap-around cases). You could have asked Neo what the cases where it wasn't 4 were - though Neo always tries to get you to find buyers.
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18 minutes ago, newsmike said:
Her entire premise is that 2+2 can equal 5, but only if you change the definition of either "2"or "plus." It is nonsense.
What happens if you store a number in a byte (which can only store 0 to 255) and it's already holding the value 250 and you add 10 to it? It would overflow/wrap around and become 4. So in that case 250+10 would become 4.
If you store a number in just 1 binary digit - bit (0 to 1) and it's already set to 1, then adding 1 to it again would make it 0 (since it would overflow). 1+1=0.
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1 hour ago, newsmike said:
"Most cases"
This is what perplexity.ai says about the other cases:
Quote- In modular arithmetic, where numbers "wrap around" after reaching a certain value, 2+2 can equal 0 or 1 depending on the modulus. For example, in modulo 3 arithmetic, 2+2=1 since 4 divided by 3 leaves a remainder of 1.
- In certain number systems or algebraic structures, such as finite groups, the standard rules of addition may not apply. In a group with only three elements (0, 1, 2) where addition is defined as adding the numbers and taking the remainder when divided by 3, 2+2=1
- In physics, when dealing with certain physical quantities, the standard rules of addition may not apply. For example, when adding temperatures measured in degrees Celsius, 20°C + 20°C does not equal 40°C, as temperature is not a quantity that follows the standard rules of addition.
- In computer science, when dealing with binary numbers represented with a fixed number of bits, arithmetic operations can "wrap around" and produce results that differ from standard integer arithmetic. For example [example seemed wrong]
The youtube vid referenced by the perplexity.ai link:
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10 minutes ago, williambryan392 said:
Never had a problem.
Maybe it's different for Fiverr Pros or TRS than for other Fiverr users. Haven't there been many who had their accounts flagged for "location inconsistencies" quite recently? I thought some where saying that they didn't use any VPN. Maybe they'd just travelled somewhere else within their big country (eg. India) and got flagged with that reason when using their account then after travelling/using a different device (without doing anything against the TOS).
According to this post: https://community.fiverr.com/forums/topic/326680-can-i-use-different-wifi/?do=findComment&comment=2044234
On 3/21/2024 at 1:46 PM, Lena said:it is always best to tell CS about plans to avoid any issues
On 3/21/2024 at 1:46 PM, Lena said:As long as the users notify CS about the changes as you did, they do not put their accounts at risk. However, if they change their location without their knowledge, they directly put their account at risk.
So that impacts on your freedom to use Fiverr anywhere if before each journey you have to tell CS about it and get their approval first (if you'd be logging into your Fiverr account from there - and that isn't mentioned in the policies).
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22 minutes ago, Kesha said:
freedom to work from wherever (as long as there’s WiFi, of course)! Whether it’s your personalized desk, a cute café, a trendy co-working space, or poolside, the world is your office.
But wouldn't Fiverr flag you for "location inconsistencies" if you "worked from wherever" and travelled a lot and then used your device to work on Fiverr (Which would then stop you from taking part in the level system)?
Edit: Though I assume it should be okay if, as staff said, you contact CS each time you want to travel somewhere before working on Fiverr (which isn't really much freedom that way). Though the many people who got flagged for location inconsistencies weren't told they needed to contact CS before each journey somewhere. (eg. there's no policy page about it as far as I know).
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45 minutes ago, emmaki said:
And why would you need to do that unless you were trying to trick your buyers?
Because the AI detectors are inaccurate as stated in this thread, and they incorrectly state that human-written things are AI generated when they're not. Altering it if the major AI detectors say it's AI would at least give the buyer more confidence in it. Maybe they could also show the buyer evidence of how the AI detectors are inaccurate.
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14 hours ago, aronok74 said:
How to increase my gig click
You have a gig called "I will install crocoblock elementor pro astra pro rangmath wp rocket updatable".
That gig's description says "Rank Math" and the image says "RankMath". Putting "rangmath" in the title probably reduces the chance your gig will be found or clicked on, especially if someone wants the Rank Math plug-in installed. You could also add some punctuation in the title or reword it a bit.
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22 minutes ago, emmaki said:
It's probably less than that now with the bans, flounces, and new seller approvals in place
Maybe. Or a few more. Maybe there could be a sitemap type thing that could be counted to give a total of active ones (since it would probably need to make the search engines know about those). If that was allowed.
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4 hours ago, andywarburton said:
It's not like we can just go on strike and refuse to work because there are millions of people willing to take it up in our place.
It doesn't seem to be millions though. Fiverr haven't said there are millions of active sellers/sellers with an active gig. There are millions of buyers.
In February 22, 2023 for their Q4 2022 Earnings call Fiverr said:
QuoteWith hundreds of thousands of sellers and millions of service listings, we must deliver world-class search and discovery technology to surface exactly the right breadth and depth of inventory tailored to each buyer
This page: https://www.marketingscoop.com/small-business/fiverr-statistics/ (from November 2023 so there's probably more now but not that much more - and they're probably talking about sellers with at least one gig):. They might have got that number from one of Fiverr's IPO documents - they said something about it there (but they talked about active sellers and their definition of it was something like those who have been active/sold something in the last year).
says:
QuoteFiverr, with over 4 million buyers and 380,000 sellers globally...
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8 hours ago, khalifacyrusuk said:
because surely the prompts that you enter should class as "human imput"?
In their letter refusing copyright to an image called "Théâtre D’opéra Spatial", the copyright review board of the US copyright office said:
QuoteThe Board acknowledges that the process of prompting can involve creativity—after all, “some prompts may be sufficiently creative to be protected by copyright” as literary works.
thought the person who created the image using Midjourney + later editing etc. whose work was later refused copyright didn't let them know what prompts were used so they couldn't make a decision about whether they were sufficiently creative.
It might have been able to be copyrightable by the US copyright office if edited if the person is willing to "to disclaim the AI-generated material" (based on that letter of theirs - if the AI generated part is more than minimal). Though I don't think it makes clear how that's supposed to be done (eg. are people supposed to show an image of what the AI created + their edited version + descriptions of what they did?).
Fiverr should really put something on their site, including for buyers in the AI generated content section explaining the copyright situation since it doesn't really mention that on the main site (except for in the community standards page but that doesn't mention that AI generated content can't be copyrighted (in the US). I'd thought it could with sufficient human changes but maybe it's just the edits that can be copyrighted.
The copyright office also reference a quote saying:
Quotethe “key” to copyright protection is “[h]uman involvement in, and ultimate creative control over, the work at issue”).
but surely there could be just as much or more creative control in AI art generation as some other types. eg. someone taking a photo of wildlife doesn't have much control over what's happening and if someone threw paint at a canvas that painting would be copyrightable but the painter didn't have full control over where each paint droplet went. Whereas with AI you have some control, eg. you should often be able to recreate it if knowing the full parameters used including the random number seed. You could also guide it more than just entering prompts.
And since AI content could be used somewhere in the process of delivering an order in sections other than the AI section of the site, and Fiverr changed the terms to say buyers must specify if they don't want it used instead of the seller disclosing if it is used, Fiverr should really put more info about it if it will affect the copyright of the buyer's finished work.
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Like was said, you could have gone to unavailable mode or paused a gig if you weren't available.
Though if there was another reason that you didn't want to do his project (eg. if there might be a copyright/trademark reason or technical reason) you could have let him know that so might have reacted differently. eg. an Iron Man video that was not a parody might have been a copyright/trademark problem.
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I need a massive help from the Fiverr freelancers about my account which. Has been hacked some days before !!!!
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If the answer to some of the questions could be something you parents/family might know (and you haven't written them down anywhere) could you ask them?