newsmike

Fellas, we need to talk.

I think they agreed to reword the 1 question of value for the money as a demonstration that they are listening, for the optics of it. The rest will steamroll as planned. The giveaway was the first line that touted. "we want you to know that we value your input and have been working to actively address your questions and concerns"

Words mean things, but agree. This is beyond played as a thread.

"Don't get your tip?" That's not even what we're discussing here. No one ever suggested that. Maybe you are commenting on something else, or are not following the thread.

So you have just negated the entire insurance industry. Interesting. Just stick with "it's not fair." Not very well reasoned, but an honest yet emotional response.

You bring up "new buyers" to make your point. Let me give you an example, I have many regular buyers, one in particular who orders every month like clockwork for their usual job at $2,200. What would prevent me from approaching someone I know well on Fiverr and pulling the scam? I realize you just don't like paying 20% on tips, so just say "it's not fair", even though you agreed to it and let that stand as your objection. It's honest at least.

I am simply answering your question as to why they charge 20% on tips. It seems your position is "it's not fair," which you are entitled to believe, however, you agreed to it when you signed up, and there is a very valid reason for it. Pointing out that there are other scams as well is hardly a reason to dismiss what I have explained. Either scam will get you suspended from the platform.

Seriously, you can easily attach a word document or txt file with the scam details.

There are probably hundreds of references already posted here, but the quick version is as follows: If Fiverr did not charge the same on tips as they do on services, how often would the following scam be played out? A seller wants to quote a job at $100, but knowing that Fiverr will take $20, leaving the seller only $80 decides to send a message to the buyer offering to discount the job to $90 if they agree to the following: I will quote you the job for $5, then you tip me $85. This way, the seller makes an extra $4, the buyer saves $10, and Fiverr makes $1, instead of $20. With the volume of scammers here, this would be done to the tune of millions of dollars in lost revenue for Fiverr.

True, but why let facts get in the way of mindless b**ching?

Do you understand why they do?

You are still talking about starting work before the order is placed though. Why would you do that? That's what a portfolio is for. If someone looks at your portfolio and says, "But I still need to see how my logo would look," prior to placing an order, they are a scammer, or a noob that you don't want to work with. You should only start designing anything once an order is placed and paid for. As for drafts once the order is placed, are you aware of watermarking?

I understand. But it's your profile, do as you wish.

Yes, you can say, "Is there anything I could have done to make your experience better?" Or, "Thanks for the order, is there anything that I could have improved?" But the almost demand with the sad face to guilt them is clearly manipulative. @Kesha has written extensively on this, you may want to read the threads.

You do realize that saying "Hey, why did you leave me a negative review? 😞" is a complete violation of TOS and will get you a suspension?

That is a great way to make sure you don't have to do it all over again. I will often send a sample of the first couple lines to make sure that they like the delivery, of course only on an order that's already been placed.

Never give free samples. It's the sure sign of either a scammer or an inexperienced buyer, neither of which you want. Most often, they tell you they need 5,000 words written for example, but want a paragraph listing the details of the product as a sample, to make sure you can do the job. You write the paragraph, they steal it and ghost you because that's all they ever needed, and every minute inexperienced sellers fall for this scam. In fact when asked, I refuse and tell them, "Although I don't do free samples, there are many new new sellers here who will do it for practice."

what a lovely way of saying "pulled from the bum."

Fiverr is in love, enamored and absolutely spellbound by AI like a 13 year old boy with a new video game. They promote it and also use it to "improve" things like the ratings system. As for PRO, that lost it's meaning about a year ago when they started giving it to anyone and everyone, even people who were not interested in PRO, were not vetted and were surprised to see the badge slapped on their profile.

But you must have known this would happen, right?

A pet peeve of mine is also the very few people who realize that "Words, do indeed, mean things." However, I just ordered a VO as well, but even though I got a perfect delivery, exactly within my expectations as I've used this seller before, I still gave the highest possible review. I would rather play the game and not punish someone who gave me great work because Fiverr does not understand that "words mean things." Just sayin' Funny how we get different results. German buyers are among the easiest and most generous for me, right on par with US buyers.

You have to remember your BS BINGO game card for each webinar. I believe "Robust" and "Lean in" were the only 2 they missed this time.

It is a dumb layout.