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  1. 4 minutes ago, visualstudios said:

    It's not AI on Fiverr, it's AI period. Fiverr is irrelevant for that discussion, actually. 

    Google translate didn't kill it over the last few years because it was garbage. For the longest time, "google translated it" was a joke, a synonym of "badly translated". But recently with true AI models (chat gpt and the like), translation has gotten very very close to the quality you could expect from a human, and it will get there shortly.

    Sounds like it is time for freelancers to call Vinnie in Jersey and start talks about unions in many different sectors.  There is a union for supermarket checkers, so maybe this is the only way to prevent AI rapidly replacing everyone.  That sure is a nice website you got there, be a shame if something happened to it. 

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  2. 22 minutes ago, visualstudios said:

    Translation, for example, is something I truly believe will not simply decrease - it will go to zero. Literally. Regardless of what Fiverr does or doesn't do, it will happen.

    Wondering, if AI on Fiverr is going to kill translation, why then didn't Google Translate kill it over the last 5 years, especially when it is free?

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  3. 3 hours ago, catwriter said:

    And at least warn your users in advance, you don't let them panic first, and then tell them "Oh, hey, iOS users can update their apps now, Android users should wait for the weekend."

    Especially when they knew that there was so much anger and distrust surrounding their ability to pull off this March 14th reinvention. All eyes were on them, they knew it, and still phoned it in. If this tells us anything, it is that the incompetence is systemic. 

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  4. 1 hour ago, it_geek_ said:

    Yeah,i will directly ask him to approve the job and say no more revisions! I am tired of this you know.one last question, so what happens when he refuses to approve and keeps sending revisions again? even if i offer extras (which that troublemaker will definitely do)

    I would advise against that. If you say "no more revisions." then he can make the case that you would not complete his job to satisfaction.  The point is not to refuse to do revisions, the point it to do as many as he wants, charging him for each one. That way you are allowing him to complete his project, but retaining your integrity to be paid as you should be. 

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  5. 19 minutes ago, smashradio said:

    Isn't this cute. Demoted from TRS to new seller, according to the app. Probably a bug because the website still has me at TRS but I guess there will be a few FLS (Formerly living sellers) after this if the glitch is widespread. Perhaps Fiverr thought it was too top heavy and wanted a few of us to get a heart attack 🤩

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    Leo, none of these screenshots can be accurate, because Fiverr promised that everything would be fixed by March 14th.

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  6. 1 hour ago, it_geek_ said:

    No I am afraid because that buyer could give me a bad review and i have never come across such a rude person. So a simple no can be affect hugely in my fiverr carrier. There are some people we cannot reason with. I think he is one of them.

    That's what I said, fear of saying no is a problem for a business person to have. What if you ran a restaurant, this guy orders an huge meal then says $200 in cocktails that he drank should be free.  Would you say OK?  You would be out of business quickly. You are worried about appearing rude to someone who is trying to steal from you. He can have his revisions, but why would you feel that he can bully you into doing them for free?

    He's trying to steal from you, and he knows you are afraid of a bad review, so he is making you go through all this anxiety. You have to either learn to say no, or get used to being bullied into doing free work. Personally, I'd take the bad review (and have) rather than let someone treat me like that. 

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    3 hours ago, donnovan86 said:

    I think they are doing this in an effort to help everyone have a fair shot.

    In a convoluted way maybe so, but they are not giving the buyer a fair shot by masking the fact that 2 sellers side by side may have completed 1001, and 22,000 orders respectively. Whenever you try to engineer "fairness," you absolutely must suppress some bit of truth. Let the stats be the stats. Like Amazon, who clearly knows better. To me, this is hugely significant:

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    Imagine if those both said 1K+ in an effort to demonstrate that they are both equally popular?  That's manipulative and misleading. Clearly Amazon recognizes the importance of displaying the more popular and more frequently purchased product, because it demonstrates trust and quality. And we can all agree that Amazon knows a zillion times more about online selling than Fiverr ever will. 

    If your theory is correct, that is concerning, as Fiverr should not be trying to pick winners and losers. They should provide an equal opportunity, and stay the hell out of the way.  But I'm not convinced that they put that much thought in. I am favoring the lazy coding theory. 

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  8. 22 hours ago, it_geek_ said:

    Hello,

    I've been working on Fiverr since 2022, and everything's been smooth sailing with my buyers and their orders until now. My latest buyer is really giving me a headache. He keeps asking for more revisions on his completed work, and he's doing it in a way that's causing me trouble.

    Here's the thing: I'm online quite a bit, but he never messages me or denies my revisions when I'm around. Instead, he waits until I'm offline, then he sends these revision requests and messages. It's like he's timing them right before the order is about to be auto-completed.

    I'm at my wit's end here. I need some advice on how to handle this situation. Can I edit the order to put a limit on the number of revisions? Or can I start charging for these extra revisions he's asking for now? When I made the custom offer, I didn't specify any limit on revisions—I attached an image of that below. Could that be why he can ask for endless revisions?
    Can Resolution Center help me set a revision limit or let me charge for all these extra revisions he's piling on?

    Your help would be super valuable to me. I just want to sort this out and move on. Thanks a ton for your time.image.png.c588a488da4f2835a6ac92656b7f1d24.png

    Relax, you are in a good place. Because you did not select any revisions in the screenshot, that means that there are no revisions included in your gig.  Therefore you are expected to charge for any additional revisions after initial delivery, unless you made an error and left out part which was to be included. 

    All you need to do is reply something like, "Sure, that revision will cost..."  And quote him a price. Occasionally someone will balk, but that's when you have to point out that your gig does not include revisions. 

    Often people make the mistake of thinking that because buyers can request revisions, that you must do them for free.  This is absolutely not the case, and I believe a symptom of sellers who are afraid to tell anyone no, for fear of a bad review. You are only obligated to do the number included in the gig for free.  Then charge for each one thereafter. 

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  9. 32 minutes ago, nicks_voice said:

    A big issue Fiverr still has is not displaying our actual total review count on search pages, it caps at 1k+ and won't show anymore. Someone with a long history and over 20,000 reviews gives buyers a lot more insight into their experience, and why their review star average may be lower than the person next to them with only 1001 reviews.

    I can see how it'd be more fair to keep things this way as everyone would just go with the person who has the higher review count, but these insights would speak volumes to buyers.

     

    Yes, capping at 1K+ is either poor marketing or lazy coding.  Excellent observation and clearly relevant in the comparison.

     

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  10. 10 minutes ago, mandyzines said:

    It’s very dangerous, Mike, because a lot of what you’re seeing as attacks on Fiverr quite frankly are attacks on science, because all of the things that Fiverr has spoken about consistently from the very beginning, have been fundamentally based on science. 

     

    We must believe anything labelled as "science," no questions. 

     

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  11. 5 minutes ago, maitasun said:

    Two different "me"s... I guess Fiverr's almighty AI found my long-lost twin I didn't know about. 🥳 🎊🎉

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    But that's all within acceptable parameters.  😆 At least Google had the honesty to say, "we're pausing our AI" till we learn how to make it work.  Fiverr won't do that, they are all in no matter the damage, because admitting otherwise would not 'appear trustworthy."

     

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  12. Fiverr showed their cards when they stated "4.9 ratings are more trustworthy than 5 star ratings," so their response has been to manipulate the data to arrive at that arbitrary number, regardless of how they get there. The goal seems to be to present buyers with manufactured 4.9's where 5's existed, you know, to appear more trustworthy. 

    If simply "appearing" trustworthy as opposed to actually "being" trustworthy is Fiverr's goal, then they should rethink their position on using VPN to fake being a US seller as well. After all, it appears "more trustworthy", so why bother with that whole "truth" concept? 

    The practice of simply aggregating the buyer's ratings and presenting them honestly, without weighting and manipulation is being sacrificed in order to fake it and present what Fiverr believes is a "more trustworthy" appearing metric based on some focus group.

    They are no longer collecting data and presenting the results, they are instead, deciding what result they want, and then torturing the data collection and analysis to arrive at their predetermined conclusion. 

    They are manipulating the metrics for marketing purposes, and putting the worst AI on the planet in charge of it. Google, X and others have interesting experiments with artificial intelligence running, but Fiverr is the only platform I'm aware of that is developing "artificial stupidity."

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  13. 1 minute ago, larrydrums said:

    Your response is as confusing as the new rating system. And I'm not going to get dragged into an argument on here which I notice you seem to relish in 

    I am sorry that you are confused. I cannot help you with that. Not looking for an argument, I just offered a polite conversation, but hey, it's been fun. 

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  14. 43 minutes ago, larrydrums said:

    Hmmm, so whats going to happen when the 4.7, 4.8 star etc sellers profiles appear next to 5.0 star sellers? Who would you pick as a service provider? If you needed a new roof on your house and you consulted Yelp, and found numerous roofers with 4.7 etc reviews that were amongst roofers with 5.0 star reviews, you would hire the 4.7 roofer because ? 

     

    There is far more to that decision than just the overall rating. Example, side by side on Amazon, nearly identical products. 

    You gonna buy the 5 star, or the 4.5 star product?  Value, price and yes even the psychology of popularity all matter in addition to the silly stars.

     

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    Think about it. The $39 product has 137 5 star reviews, while the $29 product has 14,393 5 star reviews.

    Who's the winner?

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