zeus777 Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 Admin Note: Thread closed at request of post author but will remain available for reading. All sellers are strongly encouraged to read and use the tips within! š I am aware that many new sellers post āI canāt get sales, please helpā almost everyday. Sad thing is, the reply to that question is usually the same: read the darn forum and do your own darn research.This is my version of how to get a step closer to being successful.Be aware that Fiverr is NOT an easy way to make money.Even though the starting price is $5, itās still a job.If you are thinking that Fiverr is a fun, easy, fast way to make extra money, think twice.It COULD be fun, easy and fast.My record for finishing a gig was 10 minutes, and yes,it was an easy $5.Still, you need to be aware that is a job, and you need to be professional.If you do not know what āprofessionalā means in this case,I think you are not ready to work here.If you really want to know what it means, read the forum.ALL the answers you need are there.If you are not willing to put in that extra time, sorry, you will not be successful.Do not expect people to spoon-feed you the information.TAKE YOUR TIME to set up your gigs.It amazes me at times when someone asks for help on the forum,and when I go check their gigs, I immediately realize why they are not getting any sales.Sloppy gig description with bad grammar,gig descriptions that were clearly copied/stolen from others,using a random google image for their Fiverr avatar, bad quality sample images,logo designers who are clearly using images that do not belong to them, etc.Itās easy to guess that those people spent less than an hour to create their gigs.I spent a pretty good amount of time creating my sample images when I first started.When I decided to join Fiverr, I spent HOURS doing research.I looked and read through hundreds of other TRSās gigs,checked their description and images, and did my best to make mine BETTER.When people ask "why are my gigs not selling?"I really want to ask them if they can compare their gigs with apopular sellerās gig and tell me if they honestly think it is the SAME level of quality.Popular sellers are popular for a good reason.The level of āprofessionalismā might depend on the country.Even though you yourself might think you are being professional enough,others might disagree with you. Go check the popular sellers orbuy a gig from them to check their level of service.Be aware that there are over 2 million gigs here.I think one of the most popular gigs here at Fiverr are the logo designs.There are SO many of them, and new logo gigs are created everyday.Others are Photoshop gigs like changing color, retouching photos,removing background, etc. Again, there are so many of them,so the chances of new sellers getting an order in such acompetitive category are very low in my opinion,especially if the samples and description are not well put together.If new sellers had done their research and spent timelooking through the long list of the same gigs,they might have realized and told themselves"OK, maybe I wonāt have a chance here with a logo gig,there are way too many. "Sadly in some cases, this may be true.It doesnāt mean you have to give up though.You just need to come up with something different and unique,but thatās something you will need to come up on your own.Promote.This I wonāt get into the details. Read through the forum please.If you canāt find your answer at the forum ( after all, it is a lot to read),go online and search for ways to promote your online business.Again, if you are not willing to put in that extra time,what the heck oh you know the rest.Be patient. ( I donāt think Iāll need to explain this one either)Accept the sad factSo I have seen gigs which I personally thought was a good idea,but for whatever reason, the gig was not getting any orders.The sample images were good, the description was good,I thought they were unique. But no sales.Why? Maybe, just maybe, your gig is simply NOT IN DEMAND.Even though you thought it was a good idea,others did not think so.You donāt have to delete that gig, you can try tweaking it,but you might want to think about creating different gigs too.One more thing:Maybe you are simply not good enough. Yet. (And you are not aware of that.)Iāve had some new sellers message me asking for advice for their illustration gig.They wanted me to critique their work.And Iāll be honest, some of them were simply not good.The gig description was clear, they created original samples,they used their own images as an avatar.But the drawings, in my opinion, were not good.Iāll be honest here, even if they told me I can get an image for free,I wonāt want it.If thatās the case, the only think you can do is improve your skills.Donāt use Fiverr as a way to improve.Improve first, and then come back. I think youāll do better that way.Fiverr is a good way to expand your portfolio,but donāt use it as a practice ground.A bit of a sidetrack, when I say "not good enough,"this does include the English grammar in my opinion.I have seen gigs with good quality, but the sellers were having a hard timebecause the grammar was not perfect.Even for something like logo design gigs,you will need to know a decent amount of Englishin order to prevent communication problems which might lead to a bad rating.I am aware that not everybody is a native level English speaker,but the majority of the buyers are from English speaking countries I believe.If you want sales, you will need to know English.If you donāt have the skill, ask/hire someone to handle the English part for you.Be sure you can trust that personās level though!If you are not able to find or hire a person that can help you with your English,you might have problems. If you are not willing to take thatextra step to communicate clearly with your sellers,that shows how NOT serious you are.Letās say I found 2 sellers I thought were EQUALLY good.There is a high chance that I will choose the seller with the better English,(this has nothing to do with where the person is from)because depending on the gig, itās those subtle little things that theseller needs to understand. True, even with native English speakers,miscommunication will occur. Still,I get the feeling the chances will be lower.Does this sound unfair? Yes. But I think thatās how people think andact in many cases.Having that said, IF your gigs are REALLY good, Iām sure MANY peopleare willing to ignore the English part. So be sure those gigs are really good!!This might overlap with the ābe professionalā part, butDO NOT STEAL.Do not steal other peopleās images,description, etc.I have seen many new sellerās lies getting exposed here at the forum,since so many of them created a gig by using other peopleās image/description,and to my shock they had the nerve to wonder why they were not getting sales,and they will come to the forum for help.When you steal someoneās gig, in most cases it will be noticed right away.You will be labeled as a liar, and will be VERY hard to gain back that trust.Last thing. Do NOT, I REPEAT DO NOT send me a āhelp me/review my gigā message.Do everything by yourself first. If you are too lazy to do that you can at leastpay for a gig that edits/reviews your gig here at Fiverr. And yes, you need togo look for that gig yourself.OK, this got longā¦thanks for reading! šAdmin Note: Spam has been removed and post close to further comment. Thanks to Zeus777 for the great info and we hope for more! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeus777 Posted August 19, 2015 Author Share Posted August 19, 2015 Reply to @fonthaunt:You are very welcome! Iām sure we will still continue to get āhow can I get salesā posts, but hopefully this will give people a bit of an idea and a guideline. I hope they read everything though, this one got pretty long! š Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeus777 Posted August 20, 2015 Author Share Posted August 20, 2015 Reply to @dion:Great article!BTW, āI will tell you a joke for a week for a fiverrāā¦awe too bad, I went to check out your gigs, but you donāt have your joke gig anymore! šIt looks like you are doing great though, keep it up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emmaki Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Reply to @dion: nice write up, and I enjoyed your thoughts. Iām very critical of some of Fiverrās methods, but youāve shown me another perspective. Growing pains⦠Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dion Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Reply to @zeus777: Thank you for that! Iām happy to add value to these types of discussions always. Ha! I deleted that ājoke gigā like one week in of its inception. Funny thing is⦠Iām not that funny! Ha! Yes, fiverr has been great for me over the years, so I like to be an advocate as I understand what this āplaceā TRULY implies for those dedicated to being entrepreneurs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dion Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Reply to @emmaki: Thank you! Owning a business is littered with āups n downsā, and owning a fiverr business is no different. My experience here is overwhelmingly positive with more pros to hang my hat on than cons, so this is what drives my ethos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdbyars1 Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Reply to @chellevanhoy: I appreciate this advice! Having patience is important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronasia Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Reply to @zeus777:From a buyerās perspective | what a great post (could have been even longer).There ARE a lot of Seller craziness. As you stated, Inaccurate gig descriptions,unchecked grammar and spelling in their BUSINESS AD of all places (DUH!), often alittle pass on seemingly ābait and switch tacticsā, bizarre delivery forecasts, more.Some may have more talent than others, but seemingly few have business experience.I have been away from Fiverr for several years. From the past few weeks experiences,I remembered why I left. Iāve already lost one client due a Fiverrās unfulfilled representation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronasia Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Reply to @zeus777:Froma silliness perspective | For those who remember Monty Pythonās āHoly Grailā,someone could try a gig, āI will fart in your general direction for $5ā⦠Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majdagarou Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Reply to @zeus777: HelloPlease , what you sent me on my ibox ?When I click on your message to read it .A message on the top of page shows : "Messaging disabled! One or more of your messages was reported as inappropriate or spam. Please contact Fiverr support to resolve this issue " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeus777 Posted September 3, 2015 Author Share Posted September 3, 2015 Reply to @majdagarou:Please read my comment above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeus777 Posted September 3, 2015 Author Share Posted September 3, 2015 Reply to @ronasia:Iām afraid I donāt know that episode, maybe I can youtube it⦠š Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majdagarou Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Reply to @zeus777: your message is spam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeus777 Posted September 3, 2015 Author Share Posted September 3, 2015 Reply to @majdagarou:Hi, Iām not really sure what you meant by my message being spam, but the messageI sent you is pretty much the same as the post I left above.I am not trying to be mean here, but I really wished you have read and thoughtabout everything carefully before messaging me, because you doing so only resulted inme hitting the report button. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majdagarou Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Reply to @zeus777:Thank you for your information that you gave to as š I took lot of informations from you =DBut I mean by " message Spam " that when I contacted you and you reply me , I didnāt open your message because Fiverr didnāt authorizes me to read it ; When I clicked on your message , itās showed me on the top of page : " One or lot of your messages are spam ā¦" ( I ignore why !!! )But now , Itās good ! I solved the problem š Thank you š Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vakian Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 Reply to @dion: You sir are an inspiration to me,much of what you said ressonates deeply within me,and i am also trying to acheive financial freedom online as a sort of a āMusicpreneurā.I only opened my gigs this week(though have more to come but need to get some hardware first) and still no orders are here, but i believe i can do it even if people do tell me that this is probably a waste of time and uncertain,even more uncertain then my choice of being a musician not only as hobby.The thing about educating on your own also i find to be very truthful,because at home i study alot,not only the online business,but also music,philosophy,spirituality,self discipline,etc, and from that research i felt i had something to give to the world rather then needing a degree to seem āsomeoneā or to ābe safeā like many people do,and end up in mediocre jobs and leave their passion out of equation.Many struggles will come from my decision,many wont understand and find it āirrationalā but i think there is beauty in it,and your success shows it too,not the success of being where u are now,but the success of following your desire with determination and a goal oriented atittude,that kind of self discipline is hard to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fonthaunt Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 Reply to @flora_puenzel: That is a poor attitude. It will not be easy to succeed on Fiverr if you are openly rude to those who try to offer tips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dion Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 Reply to @vakian: It feels great that I can be an inspiration to you! Thereās always so much to say as Iām extremely passionate about entrepreneurship, and creating a life based on ideations, but Iāll keep it short whilst leaving you a couple of points that I hope lead you in the right directionā¦Stay focused on what you do well. If music is your greatest passion/proficiency, then go forward with making music as your primary focus and service offering.Research the many ways there is to sell music on the web today. You can sell digital files from a personal website with many companies. Research those companies. You could also sell your music in a popular marketplace setting. Research those marketplaces.Fiverrās Co-Founder & CEO Micha Kaufman said it best in a Forbes article he contributed to a while back. He said⦠āBrand building isnāt just for the big guys.ā Find out what that means, and youāll unlock the key to scaling your products and/or services.Building something that has so much power to make you ultimately happy in this life is extremely HARD to do, so respect the process by understanding that the PRIZE comes with a PRICE. I use the word āpassionā quite a bit when I describe what Iāve built over the years, but what āpassionā really implies is a range of emotions that Iāve experienced along my journey both GOOD and BAD, so do your best not to get TOO HIGH or TOO LOW during your voyage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noushadonattu Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Very honest opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sameerthewriter Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Reply to @zeus777: I just checked your profile zeus777, you are one creative guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sobanshah29 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Reply to @meodesigns: I checked your profile, you are a good designer MASHAALLAH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fonthaunt Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Reply to @nilupsalisa: Hello. Your post is rather confusing but I think I might have figured it out - youāll have to let me know.Edited after an hour: I just noticed that you seem to have posted this on multiple threads so that makes it harder to answer you and Iāll try and remove the others if they donāt have replies. Since you havenāt responded, Iāll make a guess.1.) If you are a seller looking for people to buy your gigs, you should not EVER post a request on the buyer request page. The page is not intended for that.2.) The requests page is for BUYERS to post explaining what they are need. If a seller wants to sell logos and the buyer is looking for a logo, you can click āsubmit offerā and choose your logo gig and wait. Many buyers will pick someone else, but you may get lucky and they will contact you.3.) If you post your own seller request, other people think you are a buyer and will send you offers hoping you will buy from them. This does no good for anyone. Please donāt do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fonthaunt Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Reply to @khademulfaiez: Maybe you need to read the forums, tips, help, and academy for FIVERR instead of fiberr. šSeriously, I can guarantee you it works. I have been in chaos during my first year on Fiverr. Even then I got some OK sales, return buyers and enough cash to fund the hardware and software I need to do better in 2016. Fiverr is hard, though. You get out of it what you put into it and it takes time to grow your business. If you arenāt ready for that, then you are right, it doesnāt work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nilupsalisa Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Reply to @fonthaunt: Thank you. Now I can understand. Yes its my mistake. I should not follow him. As Iām new in fiverr and its quite different from other sites like upwork,Elance. But Iām learning its rules with help from fiverr forum. This really helping me.But now Iām facing a new problem. Yesterday I got a buyer logo order and Iāve to deliver it within 24 hrs. I already made that and pm him to check it and provide me if any changes. But till now he doesnāt replay. My clock is ticking and Iāve only few hrs. What should i do? Should i deliver it now or wait for his replay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fonthaunt Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Reply to @nilupsalisa: AGAIN:fonthaunt said: you seem to have posted this on multiple threads so that makes it harder to answer you I am deleting the others but if you continue to do this I will not reply.On your new question: If you donāt deliver and the clock runs late, it can harm your account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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