Any advices on dealing with low price sellers here?

[anaraliyev]

I wouldn't lie, sellers from most of Asian countries work for the low prices, while I (and sellers from European countries) can do nothing for 30$ before fees here after spending my whole day or two days, they are happy with it. The buyers that worked with me have never regret the amount that they paid me, which still keep coming when they need help. But still, most of buyers run to Asian sellers and they are happy with low quality work.

I have got a lot of orders from buyers who contacted me after failing with working with them, and I saw how most of them literally don't take their work seriously (or may be I am too picky and strict in my work).  So as I understand, the market always will be working in their favor unless Fiverr fairly takes on price regulation. I see the only solution in lowering my gig prices at least to get some orders sometimes . I have been here for 6 years just with one negative review and I got eaten because of these kind of reasons. Any advice? 

Note: There is no hate in this topic at all. I am just trying to be clear as possible. 

Edited September 22 by anaraliyev

[tauseefabbaskhn]

So you're presuming that Asian sellers produce low quality work? Do you have any proof to back your claim up with? How many Asian sellers did you meat or know of on and off this platform? Did you actually make any research before coming with this? 

If yes, how did you collect and verify that data? 

Edited September 22 by tauseefabbaskhn

[anaraliyev]

8 hours ago, tauseefabbaskhn said:

So you're presuming that Asian sellers produce low quality work? Do you have any proof to back your claim up with? How many Asian sellers did you meat or know of on and off this platform? Did you actually make any research before coming with this? 

If yes, how did you collect and verify that data? 

I have been here for 6 years, I have got enough experience to see it and my first experience with a certain seller was the worst ever. In addition I have got a lot of buyers coming to me after working with them for low prices, just to fix what they did. And those, who provide a good quality work, still work for humorous low prices. That is why either Fiverr market should work only for them in certain scope, or regulate the prices. And yes, unlike some of them, I do my job as good as possible even for the lowest possible price with next maintaining. So, please, I know what I say. And read the note under the article. Thanks. 

 

What I got for 50$ and couldn't get my money back. So, I know what I say.  This kind of job from my side would have been an unrespectful act first for myself then for the client. 

Edited September 23 by anaraliyev

[priyank_mod]

8 hours ago, tauseefabbaskhn said:

So you're presuming that Asian sellers produce low quality work? Do you have any proof to back your claim up with? How many Asian sellers did you meat or know of on and off this platform? Did you actually make any research before coming with this? 

If yes, how did you collect and verify that data? 

Lol, there is no reason to feel so offended about it. Did you even read the post properly, before you started typing?? 

I would say 99% of sellers from our part of the world have negligible skills (they all pretend to be experts), no professional education & work experience, gallery samples are stolen/downloaded from internet and they all would sell anything for $5 or even for $1 if Fiverr allows!! 

[filipdevaere]

29 minutes ago, priyank_mod said:

I would say 99% of sellers from our part of the world have negligible skills (they all pretend to be experts), no professional education & work experience, gallery samples are stolen/downloaded from internet and they all would sell anything for $5 or even for $1 if Fiverr allows!! 

After reading his Fiverr profile, I'm pretty sure the complainer is one of the 99%.

Of course, there's a 1% chance I'm wrong (which rarely happens).

[anaraliyev]

2 minutes ago, filipdevaere said:

After reading his Fiverr profile, I'm pretty sure the complainer is one of the 99%.

Of course, there's a 1% chance I'm wrong (which rarely happens).

He joined less than 2 weeks ago and tries to prove me wrong. 

[dereck_s]

You obviously can't hope to compete price wise, everything in asia is cheap digital wise. I'd never be able to compete with a designer from ... India for example where $5 US goes a lot farther there than it does in the US. Some of the designers are good as well so it really depends on your strengths.

I for example offer lifetime revisions if there's ever an issue with your order. If you do the work correctly the customer should never run into print issues so I rarely need to change anything but the piece of mind helps sway customers who might normally just go with some $5 dollar have your design done yesterday designer.

I also donate a portion of my earnings to charity which if someone read might help win the customer over to my side. It doesn't hurt that my designs are quite qood as well for a disgraced level 1 seller that lost all my perks and search results with the new system.

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I honestly feel like $5 dollar sellers aren't the real issue as you can still get plently of work. I think the real issue is Fiverr funneling orders and not being seen in the first place. That I feel is the real issue and one I have no idea how to fix. The only work I ever get anymore is repeat buyers and I lose money on my promoted gigs every month.

[priyank_mod]

6 minutes ago, dereck_s said:

think the real issue is Fiverr funneling orders and not being seen in the first place.

Fiverr officially advises us to believe in Quality >> Quantity. 

But algorithm believes Quantity >> Quality. 🫠

[dereck_s]

14 minutes ago, priyank_mod said:

Fiverr officially advises us to believe in Quality >> Quantity. 

But algorithm believes Quantity >> Quality. 🫠

Yeah Fiverr lies and has backstage favorites that don't run into half the issues a normal seller will. I did a bunch of research into the other sellers in my field (logo design) and found that even on the first page only 3-4 users we're getting a lot of orders (hundreds of logo design orders in que with a 1-2 day delivery window). In all cases they outsource their work or are a studio/agency but list themselves as an individual. and in almost all cases they have previously collaborated with Fiverr themselves. 1 of the sellers literally co hosted a webinar on logo design.

Those sellers each have more orders than the next few pages combined.

Edited September 23 by dereck_s
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[anaraliyev]

46 minutes ago, dereck_s said:

You obviously can't hope to compete price wise, everything in asia is cheap digital wise. I'd never be able to compete with a designer from ... India for example where $5 US goes a lot farther there than it does in the US. Some of the designers are good as well so it really depends on your strengths.

I for example offer lifetime revisions if there's ever an issue with your order. If you do the work correctly the customer should never run into print issues so I rarely need to change anything but the piece of mind helps sway customers who might normally just go with some $5 dollar have your design done yesterday designer.

I also donate a portion of my earnings to charity which if someone read might help win the customer over to my side. It doesn't hurt that my designs are quite qood as well for a disgraced level 1 seller that lost all my perks and search results with the new system.

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I honestly feel like $5 dollar sellers aren't the real issue as you can still get plently of work. I think the real issue is Fiverr funneling orders and not being seen in the first place. That I feel is the real issue and one I have no idea how to fix. The only work I ever get anymore is repeat buyers and I lose money on my promoted gigs every month.

I totally subscribe to your opinion since the new level system have also hurt me enough. I lost my Level 2 badge and my success score doesn't go up despite all the orders I have done successfuly after it went down. Both are the reasons, most of the buyers would rather spend time on scrolling through gigs to find a low price. I remember how back then a buyer wrote me, I told him the cost for the work, he replied "lol, I found someone who will do it for 40$" while someone who values his effort would have charged around x2 for this job. So the second reason after New Level System, is the sellers who kill the market with low prices and still get promoted. 

Edited September 23 by anaraliyev
Addition to the post.

[katakatica]

I've talked about this before I think - I wonder if a different catalogue of 'newcomers' (with less skills, but cheap prices) could be something for Fiverr to think about. I know that they are trying to get away from that, but it could be interesting.

Something like a place where new sellers are encouraged to start in and be HONEST about their lack of experiences, and so on.

That being said..

What bothers me isn't people with cheaper prices because that's going to happen... It's the lying and cheating that's an issue. People don't really realize what they are doing trying to get a quick buck - and buyers fall for it because, well, low prices look better, right?

It's definitely a complex thing though. I've met some really good sellers from all over the world - but I've also encountered a lot of bad ones, including that one person who (many years back) copied one of my gigs verbatim, but didn't realise what it was for. 

(I sell interactive stories with puzzles, choices, etc - so basically, games in book forms - they read interactive as 'adventure' stories but copied my gig and had no idea what was going on :D) 

As for advice: honestly, as disappointing as that sounds, the only thing we can do is deliver even better quality... 

Edited September 23 by katakatica

[anaraliyev]

55 minutes ago, katakatica said:

As for advice: honestly, as disappointing as that sounds, the only thing we can do is deliver even better quality... 

I totally agree. I have had the same experience with my works being stolen. As for better quality, there are also some sellers who do pretty good work but still keep the market cheap. So the best option is to have your own space, maybe social media etc. where you will be unique. The weird competition on Fiverr is growing day by day.

[maitasun]

9 hours ago, priyank_mod said:

Fiverr officially advises us to believe in Quality >> Quantity. 

But algorithm believes Quantity >> Quality. 🫠

The algo IS Fiverr...

[priyank_mod]

15 minutes ago, maitasun said:

The algo IS Fiverr...

[tauseefabbaskhn]

On 9/23/2024 at 8:47 AM, anaraliyev said:

What I got for 50$ and couldn't get my money back. So, I know what I say.  This kind of job from my side would have been an unrespectful act first for myself then for the client. 

I understand that. There would be numerous sellers from Asia, or any other region that are unskilled, fake, or believe in 'easy money' and that's the reality of online marketplaces. What I objected on is the presumption that Asian sellers (a certain percentage of them) are bad and that there should be different policies for them.  

There could be good as well as bad sellers from anywhere in the world. 

On 9/23/2024 at 8:55 AM, priyank_mod said:

would say 99% of sellers from our part of the world have negligible skills (they all pretend to be experts)

That's the usual shenanigans of online debates that cannot be corroborated with facts/figures/actual numbers/verifiable studies. 

 

[drorrozentraub]

I offer services at a premium price point, positioning myself among the top 1% in my category, which aligns perfectly with my goals. I want potential clients to view my rates as a reflection of the high-quality, premium services I provide. While many freelancers charge significantly less, I’m focused on attracting serious buyers with high budgets, not simply increasing the volume of clients.

Maybe try to market yourself as a premium seller. Try to have a 'fancier' profile.

And besides, as you decrease your prices, there is a higher likelihood to work with bad buyers.

Edited September 25 by drorrozentraub