Fiverr PRO program is broken.

[sasyj93]

Fiverr PRO program is broken.

my brother personally hired 4-5 fiverr pros, but I interviewed about fifty of them, including translators, developers and marketing consultants.

The result is a total disaster, people who don't know a single line of code pretending to be seasoned developers (yeah, installing plugins and themes doesn't make you a pro) and some of them candidly expressed this in chat with me and in their profiles in description.

Translators who use Google Translate for their translations complete with reviews from users who complain about this.

I hired several people, including a developer who sent me a 1:1 copy of an example site that I had sent him, obviously with its limitations because it was a bad copy. When I asked him why he had done it he told me that he couldn't design it (something agreed before) and that maybe it was time to give me a refund, many others in the same category when I explained my needs they didn't seem to know what I was talking about, they don't know figma, they don't know the code, they don't know anything about it nothing, they only know how to put ready-made themes and plugins, evidently they are all graduates, otherwise it is inexplicable, good for them, they beat the system.

In light of this, my brother tested the program, he sent about a dozen videos on 5 different genres of music, how to create it from scratch with sound design etc. (he work in music), he has no degrees of any kind,experience is practical.

The result is that for Fiverr he doesn't meet the criteria, for him it's fine because if this is the level of the PROs, he doesn't want to have anything to do with this badge, he has notified the support and the guys will investigate, at this point it matters little .

Please note, obviously not all PROs are fake incompetents, but sadly, most do not reflect the experience they say they have, same for the top sellers.

The program is broken, the selection process necessarily takes place via bot because it is not possible that a guy who installs plugins in wp (by his own admission) is a PRO and someone who composes music from scratch with customers with hundreds of thousands of views be considered someone who does not have enough experience.

If you want to become PRO, all you need is a social presence and/or a degree, which he  lacked but which he filled with other types of educational and demonstration material.

Good luck !

Edited October 8, 2023 by sasyj93
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[donnovan86]

1 hour ago, sasyj93 said:

The program is broken

Or maybe you just found some bad apples. The program is fine and there are many great professionals. 

[rawque_gulia]

1 hour ago, sasyj93 said:

it is not possible that a guy who installs plugins in wp (by his own admission) is a PRO

1 hour ago, sasyj93 said:

they don't know figma, they don't know the code

1 hour ago, sasyj93 said:

they only know how to put ready-made themes and plugins

Why are you looking for WordPress developers in the first place (if you don't want ready-made templates and plugins)? Also if someone is using a plugin or template, it does not make them unprofessional. Using plugins is easier than coding, but it also takes time to master and research which plugin is the best in the market. It's not like someone will wake up one morning and call themselves a WordPress expert developer. 43% of all websites worldwide are built in WordPress alone, so it is quite understandable why WordPress plugins and templates are in demand.

And they are WordPress website developers, so I am not sure why you would expect them to be experts in coding or Figma. From your message it appears that you hired the wrong people (in wrong category) and then you are complaining about receiving poor quality that does not match your requirements.

1 hour ago, sasyj93 said:

who installs plugins in wp (by his own admission) is a PRO and someone who composes music from scratch with customers with hundreds of thousands of views be considered someone who does not have enough experience.

Well, lots of respect for your brother for making music from scratch, but why are you comparing people from two different fields? Some fields are easy to learn and some are difficult---but everyone is doing their job on their part.

[glow_writer]

Report the bug to Fiverr.

[sasyj93]

3 hours ago, rawque_gulia said:

And they are WordPress website developers, so I am not sure why you would expect them to be experts in coding or Figma. From your message it appears that you hired the wrong people (in wrong category) and then you are complaining about receiving poor quality that does not match your requirements.

 you are instrumentalizing the problem,using plugins and themes is absolutely ok,not knowing how to customize them is a disgrace instead.

My brother is a professional composer,installing a plugin is not the same thing. Only a real coder is his equal,I hope now you understand.

[sasyj93]

4 hours ago, donnovan86 said:

Or maybe you just found some bad apples. The program is fine and there are many great professionals. 

The sum of them is too high,the program will be fine for you,how many pros have you hired here? I don't think even one,with all due respect you don't know how they work,I have hired several and interviewed as many,they are very ignorant. 

This is my opninion on my experience,you can't say yourself that it's ok just because you think so without having tried it.

I'm sorry that you have to defend Fiverr at any cost,I understand your loyalty in them but you are not objective because you don't see the problem or you don't know the extent of it as much as it is based.

[donnovan86]

1 hour ago, sasyj93 said:

I don't think even one,

I met some people in the Pro section. So I know there are legit people here, just like there are bad apples. However, bashing this on the forum won't really help that much. It's just a place to vent, it's not like it will change anything. 

Also, it comes down to your requirements and what you want. And of course, what those people promised in the first place. I, for one, I want to learn as much as possible about any project before taking it on, and I deny stuff that I don't feel comfortable with. Maybe some of those sellers took more than they could offer because they lack orders right now, who knows. 

I am not defending Fiverr honestly, I am sure this topic won't really make or break someone's image of Fiverr. I just know that there are a lot of talented people. But hiring a Pro doesn't guarantee that person is fully qualified for your specific requirement. That's why I think searching just for a Pro is a mistake, because someone very qualified in your particular niche/requirement might not be in that Pro program in the first place. 

I suggest you browse all the sellers and not just Pro. I am sure there are bad apples as I said, but they don't just randomly select people. In order to apply for Pro, you have to actually prove your expertise and only 1% or less of the people that apply actually get picked.. I can tell you for a fact that I applied in 2017 when that program started, and they required A LOT of proof about any claim I made. Not to mention that even once you become a Pro, if there are bad reviews and stuff like that, you are held accountable and they even remove you from Pro. 

[sasyj93]

2 hours ago, donnovan86 said:

I met some people in the Pro section. So I know there are legit people here, just like there are bad apples. However, bashing this on the forum won't really help that much. It's just a place to vent, it's not like it will change anything. 

Also, it comes down to your requirements and what you want. And of course, what those people promised in the first place. I, for one, I want to learn as much as possible about any project before taking it on, and I deny stuff that I don't feel comfortable with. Maybe some of those sellers took more than they could offer because they lack orders right now, who knows. 

I am not defending Fiverr honestly, I am sure this topic won't really make or break someone's image of Fiverr. I just know that there are a lot of talented people. But hiring a Pro doesn't guarantee that person is fully qualified for your specific requirement. That's why I think searching just for a Pro is a mistake, because someone very qualified in your particular niche/requirement might not be in that Pro program in the first place. 

I suggest you browse all the sellers and not just Pro. I am sure there are bad apples as I said, but they don't just randomly select people. In order to apply for Pro, you have to actually prove your expertise and only 1% or less of the people that apply actually get picked.. I can tell you for a fact that I applied in 2017 when that program started, and they required A LOT of proof about any claim I made. Not to mention that even once you become a Pro, if there are bad reviews and stuff like that, you are held accountable and they even remove you from Pro. 

I'm sorry but I really don't think it's what you say,so many PROs are with bad reviews but that's not the problem,it's what's being accused of that's the real concern,that didn't cause me to lose the badge,I'm not that naive to want to change things with a post,you said it right,I'm venting.

Having a translator badge and using google translate,(like me many others have said it on a vendor) makes this program a joke,I am sorry you were not accepted,I bet you deserve it more than others maybe,who knows,we will never know.

What I do know is that a person spends hours filling out a form,even days getting material and has to get a response from a bot,I have no justification on someone in chat with a badge in web development telling me candidly "I am not a developer" No mercy for people like that,out of 50+ applicants only 1 was up to the mark.

I can speak because I spent money,of course it remains my opinion but there is unequivocal data supporting this opinion.
 

Fiverr has no skills to figure out who is really a PRO in his job,it relies on certificates and social presence,it has no technical program to verify this,Fiverr at this point should deign to open a back and forth on each candidate instead of having a bot skim the applications.

Someone said talk to a pseudo manager,obviously paying,but what kind of process is this? Zero services. I don't see why anyone would pay to hear about the badge,fiverr treats freelancers as desperate people looking for little money and who are even willing to pay for a ridiculous program like plus to make it.

[grayprogrammerz]

18 hours ago, sasyj93 said:

Fiverr PRO program is broken.

my brother personally hired 4-5 fiverr pros, but I interviewed about fifty of them, including translators, developers and marketing consultants.

The result is a total disaster, people who don't know a single line of code pretending to be seasoned developers (yeah, installing plugins and themes doesn't make you a pro) and some of them candidly expressed this in chat with me and in their profiles in description.

Translators who use Google Translate for their translations complete with reviews from users who complain about this.

I hired several people, including a developer who sent me a 1:1 copy of an example site that I had sent him, obviously with its limitations because it was a bad copy. When I asked him why he had done it he told me that he couldn't design it (something agreed before) and that maybe it was time to give me a refund, many others in the same category when I explained my needs they didn't seem to know what I was talking about, they don't know figma, they don't know the code, they don't know anything about it nothing, they only know how to put ready-made themes and plugins, evidently they are all graduates, otherwise it is inexplicable, good for them, they beat the system.

In light of this, my brother tested the program, he sent about a dozen videos on 5 different genres of music, how to create it from scratch with sound design etc. (he work in music), he has no degrees of any kind,experience is practical.

The result is that for Fiverr he doesn't meet the criteria, for him it's fine because if this is the level of the PROs, he doesn't want to have anything to do with this badge, he has notified the support and the guys will investigate, at this point it matters little .

Please note, obviously not all PROs are fake incompetents, but sadly, most do not reflect the experience they say they have, same for the top sellers.

The program is broken, the selection process necessarily takes place via bot because it is not possible that a guy who installs plugins in wp (by his own admission) is a PRO and someone who composes music from scratch with customers with hundreds of thousands of views be considered someone who does not have enough experience.

If you want to become PRO, all you need is a social presence and/or a degree, which he  lacked but which he filled with other types of educational and demonstration material.

Good luck !

Unfortunately fiverr lacks proper testing process.

Degree, social presence, smiley face doesn't verify skill sets.

 

Most IT companies interview and take relevant tests.

For example, a coder is expose to a coding test.

 

There's recent program named "Fiverr certified".

Based on this, companies manually certifies individuals with relevant skills.

It might solve current issue, can't be sure.

[donnovan86]

10 hours ago, sasyj93 said:

even days getting material and has to get a response from a bot

I met with the Fiverr team multiple times, and they do check things manually. There might be human error, but no Pro applications are checked by a bot. 

 

10 hours ago, sasyj93 said:

Fiverr has no skills to figure out who is really a PRO in his job

That would mean they need to have a professional in pretty much any industry on this planet, which is obviously not the case. Certificates and diplomas are a good indicator in most cases. And even if that's not always foolproof, it's definitely better than any other method. 

Anyway, if you dislike Fiverr so much, try out other platforms. Based on these messages you clearly don't like the platform and its talent, so why bother? 

[sasyj93]

15 hours ago, donnovan86 said:

I met with the Fiverr team multiple times, and they do check things manually. There might be human error, but no Pro applications are checked by a bot. 

 

That would mean they need to have a professional in pretty much any industry on this planet, which is obviously not the case. Certificates and diplomas are a good indicator in most cases. And even if that's not always foolproof, it's definitely better than any other method. 

Anyway, if you dislike Fiverr so much, try out other platforms. Based on these messages you clearly don't like the platform and its talent, so why bother? 

it's not that if I don't like something I just move on,I invested money and I couldn't know before I invested it,what do you care instead if I express my dissatisfaction.I repeat,I invested and invest thousands of dollars a month,I'm not dissatisfied with fiverr but with the pro program,but sometimes it seems you don't understand too basic concepts. I need to draw a picture maybe.

[sasyj93]

16 hours ago, grayprogrammerz said:

There's recent program named "Fiverr certified".

thanks for sharing,can you link a source? 

[rawque_gulia]

2 minutes ago, sasyj93 said:

if I express my dissatisfaction

2 minutes ago, sasyj93 said:

it seems you don't understand too basic concepts

The basic concepts are: - If a seller is not providing you work as per your instructions, ask for cancellation or contact customer support. This way you could have saved your thousands of dollars, but by showing your dissatisfaction here, you will not get anything in return.

[sasyj93]

1 minute ago, rawque_gulia said:

The basic concepts are: - If a seller is not providing you work as per your instructions, ask for cancellation or contact customer support. This way you could have saved your thousands of dollars, but by showing your dissatisfaction here, you will not get anything in return.

I do what I think is appropriate,maybe it gets to someone who makes the decision,if it doesn't,amen.

[grayprogrammerz]

6 hours ago, sasyj93 said:

thanks for sharing,can you link a source? 

https://pro.fiverr.com/certified

[donnovan86]

On 10/10/2023 at 4:36 AM, sasyj93 said:

you happy with ur ... [[offensive content]]

We were just having a conversation and it's ok to have different opinions. But if you're resorting to this kind of stuff.. then I'm out of here. The conversation is going nowhere anyway. 

[imamiopial]

On 10/10/2023 at 4:36 AM, sasyj93 said:

My brother in the absence of a degree sent hours of course material,it took weeks to do it and all fiverr deigns to do is respond with a bot to his application

Can I ask where was the materials sent?

 

On 10/10/2023 at 4:36 AM, sasyj93 said:

then we have to see guys who have never studied in their lives as PRO?

That's a pretty rough claim, 

I believe there’s more to the story and you're just sharing your side of it.

 

On 10/10/2023 at 4:36 AM, sasyj93 said:

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This really wasn't necessary to say to someone who is just helping you answer your questions. 

[vibronx]

I feel like this thread is really you complaining about your brother not being selected as a Pro. 

[dev_naymul247]

On 10/9/2023 at 2:52 AM, sasyj93 said:

 you are instrumentalizing the problem,using plugins and themes is absolutely ok,not knowing how to customize them is a disgrace instead.

My brother is a professional composer,installing a plugin is not the same thing. Only a real coder is his equal,I hope now you understand.

Thank you so much

[sasyj93]

16 hours ago, imamiopial said:

Can I ask where was the materials sent?

 

That's a pretty rough claim, 

I believe there’s more to the story and you're just sharing your side of it.

 

This really wasn't necessary to say to someone who is just helping you answer your questions. 

 

However he was sent video instructional materials,on production,sound design and other things,just to make up for the lack of degree,his prices are already pro but he simply wanted a chance to make more money in the eyes of buyers,the fact that fiverr responds with bots to these materials,and in light of my very bad experiences with several pro sellers makes me judge this program to be absolutely unacceptable.

This is my humble opinion and I am sorry to inform you but I have already sent this material to fiverr on pro sellers,they said they will investigate,if you don't believe it doesn't matter.

Anyway it is not my intention to hurt you or argue,but you have to respect my opinions and you don't have to defend fiverr no matter what and you don't have to say that pro sellers are ok just because you have dealt with them,you have nothing to do with it I have nothing personal with you but you dont have to say "just leave fiverr",this is not the topic im discussing here,Fiverr is fine,Fiverr PRO is not (for me).

I apologize if I hurt you @donnovan86

[sasyj93]

16 hours ago, dev_naymul247 said:

Thank you so much

This is the classic example profile of what I am talking about.

From what I can see you deal mostly with frontend,so you are not proficient in PHP backend but this is totally respectable,because you have specializations in something different (otherwise you would have almost been a full stack)Thanks for understanding the concept I want to express.

G luck !

[sasyj93]

18 hours ago, grayprogrammerz said:

https://pro.fiverr.com/certified

thank you,can be applied from sellers? Looks like a buyer thing

[vibronx]

5 hours ago, sasyj93 said:

Coming from a guy who is [[offensive content]]

Well, I’d rather have no skills than my one skill being flooding the forum with my tears like you. All your posts on this forum are of you crying and complaining about something. What happened to your two warnings? You were so busy crying about those. And, of course, they weren’t your fault. No way. Nothing is ever your fault. 
 

And, you know, I only made my comment because you were being mean to @donnovan86 for no reason. I couldn’t care less about your stupid complaints about Pros. You’re one person, and your opinion doesn’t matter as much as you think it does. I know I’m honest, and that’s all that matters to me. But if you start insulting someone trying to have a normal conversation with you, that’s just rude. However, I suspect you’re just an entitled and rude person overall.