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On 5/14/2022 at 8:07 PM, dmitrychubai said:

Hi all! 👋
Does a CTR of more than 10% indicate that Gig is well optimized? 
Or is this a small indicator and needs to be refined more?vivaldi_v31DYvFMG6.thumb.png.3941f1737f2c363975717c51d6d12a98.png

It means that Fiverr is serving your gig to buyers and it seems like they are clicking on it. So your title, price and thumbnail work.

That’s only half the funnel.

if you are not getting messages or orders then your description, demo video and FAQ are not working as well.

Don’t edit your gig immediately though as your impressions will most likely drop. Ride the traffic wave and take note of what you could improve in the near future.

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On 1/21/2022 at 4:43 PM, maryamstudios said:

But when I searched my competitors and I studied them , most of the ranking competitors are using title in the description and using tags without sentence like this" tags # logo ,logo design , professional, modern etc"

And they are ranking on top of the SERP? What is the logic behind it then?

@frank_dI'm facing the same issue. Could you please advice about this?

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23 minutes ago, starseorank said:

@frank_dI'm facing the same issue. Could you please advice about this?

Not sure what the issue you are referring to is.

 

i replied to that member’s quote, did you read my answer?

 

Is your issue that people appear ahead of you?

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5 hours ago, starseorank said:

most of the ranking competitors are using title in the description and using tags without sentence like this" tags # logo ,logo design , professional, modern etc"

And they are ranking on top of the SERP? What is the logic behind it then?

@frank_dThis is what I quoted following that member's question.

 

4 hours ago, frank_d said:

i replied to that member’s quote, did you read my answer?

Yes I already read this answer. But, I don't know what is my weak point I didn't understand fully.

 

5 hours ago, frank_d said:

Is your issue that people appear ahead of you?

This is what the TRS and top ranker doing and they are in ranking as well.

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1 hour ago, starseorank said:

@frank_dThis is what I quoted following that member's question.

 

Yes I already read this answer. But, I don't know what is my weak point I didn't understand fully.

 

This is what the TRS and top ranker doing and they are in ranking as well.

OK so something doesn’t add up.

So first of all, you can’t compare your account to that of TRS ones.

Secondly if you think you know why they are performing well, let me tell you that your assumptions are mostly wrong.

I took a quick look at your profile and here are some issues at random order:

you claim to be an SEO specialist yet you offer no SEO services.

You have two duplicate gigs. 
 

Your offerings are too high priced for your vertical and for your trust signals.

Your profile’s description is a bit of a mess. You are trying too hard.

Focus on one thing you can do really well. Of it’s Facebook ad management then you shouldn’t position yourself as an expert at something else. Offer proof of your expertise or set proper expectations. I wouldn’t buy from you when your description is trying so hard to convince me to spend $400 so you can manage my ads and I can get more revenue. How will that happen? What’s your process? Have you had success?

So many questions you need to be answering through your presentation.

I could go on for hours. To cut this short: seo and tags is not your problem. Your product is your main problem.

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12 hours ago, frank_d said:

OK so something doesn’t add up.

So first of all, you can’t compare your account to that of TRS ones.

Secondly if you think you know why they are performing well, let me tell you that your assumptions are mostly wrong.

I took a quick look at your profile and here are some issues at random order:

you claim to be an SEO specialist yet you offer no SEO services.

You have two duplicate gigs. 
 

Your offerings are too high priced for your vertical and for your trust signals.

Your profile’s description is a bit of a mess. You are trying too hard.

Focus on one thing you can do really well. Of it’s Facebook ad management then you shouldn’t position yourself as an expert at something else. Offer proof of your expertise or set proper expectations. I wouldn’t buy from you when your description is trying so hard to convince me to spend $400 so you can manage my ads and I can get more revenue. How will that happen? What’s your process? Have you had success?

So many questions you need to be answering through your presentation.

I could go on for hours. To cut this short: seo and tags is not your problem. Your product is your main problem.

Honorable @frank_d I'm very much thankful to you for auditing my profile. Everyday I'm looking for your article to maximize my knowledge about Fiverr. I'm not comparing me with TRS and others. I asked for getting advice from you about those seller's who uses their gig title in their description, also they use tag and keyword like example: Tags# seo, Onsite seo, onpage optimization, website onpage seo, etc.

 

Ok Let's explain about my service and expectation.

-As a Digital Marketer & SEO, my expectation was I  will publish my gigs in two categories Social Media Ads management and SEO. But when I publish my first gig I didn't get enough impression. Then I publish another gig in the same category to find out what's going on. In the meantime, I joined the Fiverr Forum and I was shocked that why I didn't join the forum before publishing my gig. Here is a huge resource and article to expand my knowledge. Then I stop publishing another gig and I start giving time on the forum to know how the Fiverr algorithm works, and how can I serve when I have a huge competition in my vertical. Actually, I'm researching more and gathering information. I left a challenge on myself why my service didn't get enough impression. I started to join maximum Fiverr events and webinars. Now I'm very much hopeful to publish the rest of all gigs.


-You find I have two duplicate gigs. Actually my perspective there is no duplication. Because my first gig indicates limited ads campaign setup like max three ads campaigns. The second gig is for unlimited campaigns set up for a time duration like 14 days as a manager and the other is the manager for 30 days.


-You observe that my offerings are so high like $400. Let's explain that you can compare others. For the $400 package, what the buyer will get: I will serve my maximum effort to find the best results, research targeted keywords, detailed audience targeting, attractive ad content, eye-catchy ad graphics, Pixel set up, carousel ad setup, ad analytical report, unlimited campaigns setup, anytime support, everything I will do for 30 days as an ads campaign manager. Therefore, If I work for someone's ads campaign manager for 30 days then $400 is so high for that?

-As an ads campaign manager, we didn't give a guarantee for sales or revenue. Sales depend on buyer's product quality, market demand, market saturation, website/landing page quality, product price, store age, return policy, quick delivery, and after-sale service. I will help the buyer to get their targeted potential audience/customers/traffic for growing their business and achieving their goals.

Finally, I'm glad for getting your valuable advice. Hopefully, I'll try to follow your all inquiries.

Best regards

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35 minutes ago, starseorank said:

Honorable @frank_d I'm very much thankful to you for auditing my profile. Everyday I'm looking for your article to maximize my knowledge about Fiverr. I'm not comparing me with TRS and others. I asked for getting advice from you about those seller's who uses their gig title in their description, also they use tag and keyword like example: Tags# seo, Onsite seo, onpage optimization, website onpage seo, etc.

 

Ok Let's explain about my service and expectation.

-As a Digital Marketer & SEO, my expectation was I  will publish my gigs in two categories Social Media Ads management and SEO. But when I publish my first gig I didn't get enough impression. Then I publish another gig in the same category to find out what's going on. In the meantime, I joined the Fiverr Forum and I was shocked that why I didn't join the forum before publishing my gig. Here is a huge resource and article to expand my knowledge. Then I stop publishing another gig and I start giving time on the forum to know how the Fiverr algorithm works, and how can I serve when I have a huge competition in my vertical. Actually, I'm researching more and gathering information. I left a challenge on myself why my service didn't get enough impression. I started to join maximum Fiverr events and webinars. Now I'm very much hopeful to publish the rest of all gigs.


-You find I have two duplicate gigs. Actually my perspective there is no duplication. Because my first gig indicates limited ads campaign setup like max three ads campaigns. The second gig is for unlimited campaigns set up for a time duration like 14 days as a manager and the other is the manager for 30 days.


-You observe that my offerings are so high like $400. Let's explain that you can compare others. For the $400 package, what the buyer will get: I will serve my maximum effort to find the best results, research targeted keywords, detailed audience targeting, attractive ad content, eye-catchy ad graphics, Pixel set up, carousel ad setup, ad analytical report, unlimited campaigns setup, anytime support, everything I will do for 30 days as an ads campaign manager. Therefore, If I work for someone's ads campaign manager for 30 days then $400 is so high for that?

-As an ads campaign manager, we didn't give a guarantee for sales or revenue. Sales depend on buyer's product quality, market demand, market saturation, website/landing page quality, product price, store age, return policy, quick delivery, and after-sale service. I will help the buyer to get their targeted potential audience/customers/traffic for growing their business and achieving their goals.

Finally, I'm glad for getting your valuable advice. Hopefully, I'll try to follow your all inquiries.

Best regards

I am just going to briefly touch upon your response as this is now off-topic:

-you may not think your gigs are identical, I guarantee you that Fiverr’s AI thinks so.

-you keep mentioning increased revenue, so even if you didn’t mean to, you are definitely over promising and you will have difficulty managing expectations 

-stick to the one thing you are good at. SEO and managing ads are not the same and it’s improbable that you are excellent at both.

-you make a -rather bold- recommendation that people should buy your $400 package. You directly state it is “recommended”. With the lack of tryst signals on your profile the chances of that happening is slim.

Focus on the one thing you do well and try to offer more condensed versions of your services to limit pricing as much as possible.

The way you are presenting your services right now will most likely not lead to much.

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Thank you very much for sharing this highly informative post. I'm a new seller with 2 gigs at the moment and looking to create more gigs soon. This guide has surely helped me to create them with better considerations. Thank you very much.

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On 1/20/2022 at 11:48 PM, frank_d said:

Meaning if you have several gigs that all of them are extremely similar (a big No-No) or have been reported or break ToS, no new gig will ever perform well as your account is shadow-banned, for lack of a better term.

How about someone got a warning from fiverr for breaking TOS, is there any chance that the shadow-ban will be taken off from their profile or it will not be taken off easily. One more thing, is there any that we could do to get back the profile working normally? 

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On 8/3/2022 at 8:06 PM, noah_designer said:

How about someone got a warning from fiverr for breaking TOS, is there any chance that the shadow-ban will be taken off from their profile or it will not be taken off easily. One more thing, is there any that we could do to get back the profile working normally? 

It depends on the severity of the case.

If your account was punished for breaking ToS then for a certain amount of time your gigs will probably underperform as your account is not in good standing.

That warning will never be removed from your account but the amount of time your gigs are not served varies depending on the severity of your actions.

 

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9 hours ago, frank_d said:

It depends on the severity of the case.

If your account was punished for breaking ToS then for a certain amount of time your gigs will probably underperform as your account is not in good standing.

That warning will never be removed from your account but the amount of time your gigs are not served varies depending on the severity of your actions.

Well I can share with you my case. In Feb, someone (a Fiverr Business Client) placed an order. I kept asking them about the incomplete requirements but they didn't bother. On my end, it was my fault not to involve resolution center and I sent a delivery and again asked them about the requirements. After 3 days the order got completed automatically and after a week, I got a notifcation from fiverr about this with a warning on my account and Customer Support cancelled the order.

This was what happend back in Feb and still I won't be able to recover my any gig to first page. I know it was some of my fault as well or may be entirely my fault but since then I won't be able to recover my acc. Right now I'm a level 2 account holder with round about 9000$ earned.

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I tried many things from here, I researched other gigs also before publishing my new gig. But still my Gig is down. I did not get impressions and click. What should I do? How can I improve? I have checked everything on my Gig which you mentioned. Still my profile is Down.

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I think that when a gig is researched. Fiverr will only rank your gig if your service overall is good. Moreover, the Fiverr algorithm filters and ranks each gig at some point. Don't get discouraged, keep going and success will come

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@frank_d This is a great article, all the information is correct and makes the most sense. I also have experienced the same phenomena that Fiverr title is the main SEO, 90% SEO done there, but nowadays tags and descriptions have very less role on it. 

If you see most of the ranked gig on 1st page, they are mostly due to titles and indeed for their performance because if you see tags some of the gigs even don't have keywords in tags that have in their title which shows the validity of this point.  

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On 1/21/2022 at 12:18 AM, frank_d said:

So it doesn't matter what the price tag is. Someone might be selling at $5/$10/$15 packages, but for whatever reason their average price goes up to $100 via extras and custom offers. That's one more thing you don't know about other sellers but you know for yourself.

Hi thanks a lot. This was very helpful. Just one question. By average price, do you mean the average price of a gig which has made a few sales atleast or does it also apply for new gigs which has never made a single sale? 

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A scammer will always exploit someone's greed, if you're not greedy, they can't exploit it.

"Ignorance" and "desperation" would be the other two states of vulnerability.

'Ignorance' is not a bad word. I just means 'I don't know'. For example, I'm completely ignorant when it comes to car maintenance. That means I MUST trust someone else to do work on my car for me. This does make me vulnerable to shady shops that might insist I need to replace my blinker fluid, but this is why self-awareness is critical. I know myself enough to identify my weaknesses, to get second opinions, and to seek out information to self-educate. (Thus your first point: "Read the ToS".)

Desperate people are more likely to take risks and gamble, even if, were they not stressed, they would NEVER do a 'thing' that they would otherwise know was foolish. I've watched a few scam-baiter videos recently and... well, I'll just let them speak for themselves: https://youtu.be/tuVWGIBYVCU?t=766

(BTW, thank you for sharing your experience with Fiverr thus far.)

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