Ain't the growing number of incapable sellers affecting the overall productivity ?

[lawan21]

I think Fiverr is slowly becoming unproductive because the number of inept and unskilled sellers are gaining numbers. I'm posting this because I feel a new seller who has so much potential, might be missed out due to the large number of unsure new sellers. That the buyers always tend to judge with the quantity of previous work and experiences because of this uncertainty. I think its time that Fiverr should introduce more strategies to test the credibility of these new sellers. What do you think ? 

 

[lenasemenkova]

Other platforms have/had put in place mandatory tests (when you can’t apply for a job or join a category without passing a test of dubious quality) or would downright turn people down and wouldn’t allow them to join the site because they had “enough” professionals in the niche. Sorry to report, but designers are often one of the first categories to get entry limitations. There is more than “enough” of us wherever we show up. 

I haven’t seen any positive results come from that, to be honest. It’s like all the “bad” old sellers stayed on the platform and all the new “good” sellers were denied entry. Along with the new “bad” ones, of course, but still. My overall impression was that the talent pool got tainted. 

PS “Geometric” in the name of your gig is misspelled. 

[jonbaas]

5 hours ago, lawan21 said:

I think Fiverr is slowly becoming unproductive because the number of inept and unskilled sellers are gaining numbers. I'm posting this because I feel a new seller who has so much potential, might be missed out due to the large number of unsure new sellers. That the buyers always tend to judge with the quantity of previous work and experiences because of this uncertainty. I think its time that Fiverr should introduce more strategies to test the credibility of these new sellers. What do you think ? 

 

I think, instead of worrying about the skills and productiveness of other sellers, you might find the kind of success you are looking for by working hard to be the best seller for the services you offer. If you are the best seller for the services you offer, then it doesn't really matter how skilled or productive the "inept and unskilled sellers", as you called them, are. It is not up to Fiverr to make sure everyone fits the kind of credibility you seek. The market will decide who gains the orders, based solely upon the efforts of those who choose to compete in the market.

[davidstrongvo]

This would actually be a positive for those that are adept.
Premium clients are looking for skilled freelancers and Fiverr makes it rather easy to spot inexperience and poor service.

If you offer premium service and are actively marketing yourself, clients will find you.

 

[lawan21]

9 hours ago, lenasemenkova said:

@lenasemenkova

Yeah you may be right. But how come

9 hours ago, lenasemenkova said:

all the new “good” sellers were denied entry. ???

Tests should be there to select the best designers upon entry.

And can you please post a screenshot where I have misspelled ? I still couldn't find it. Thanks in advance

9 hours ago, lenasemenkova said:

PS “Geometric” in the name of your gig is misspelled.

 

 

[lawan21]

9 hours ago, lenasemenkova said:

PS “Geometric” in the name of your gig is misspelled. 

Okay thanks...I just found it. Than you verymuch 💗

[lawan21]

5 hours ago, jonbaas said:

instead of worrying about the skills and productiveness of other sellers

LOL Thanks man. I'm not worrying about others Jon. I'm worried about me as a seller. Its about the trust buyers have on new sellers. You are a nice philosopher but should walk a day in my shoes.

 

5 hours ago, jonbaas said:

If you are the best seller for the services you offer, then it doesn't really matter how skilled or productive the "inept and unskilled sellers",

Thanks but when did you enter Fiverr ?

[theratypist]

I think you will find some interest in this thread! A lot of people voiced their insights and options here

 

[lawan21]

4 hours ago, davidstrongvo said:

Premium clients are looking for skilled freelancers and Fiverr makes it rather easy to spot inexperience and poor service.

Thanks David 💗

Yeah but it doesn't mean other sellers are jokers who provide crappy services right ?. Couldn't it have been beautiful for both buyers and sellers if the site can ensure the credibility of the new sellers upon entry ?

[jonbaas]

9 minutes ago, lawan21 said:

LOL Thanks man. I'm not worrying about others Jon. I'm worried about me as a seller. Its about the trust buyers have on new sellers. You are a nice philosopher but should walk a day in my shoes.

Thanks but when did you enter Fiverr ?

Believe me, you don't want to know how many miles I have already walked in shoes like yours. I am well aware of your present struggles, because I experienced them many times as well. The thing is, though, being a freelancer is about YOU, and what YOU can offer to others. What others are doing, and the success they have found, will have very little to do with the path you take toward YOUR success.

As for when I joined Fiverr, that would be back in early in 2014. I've been selling here -- successfully -- for over seven years. 😉 

[lenasemenkova]

2 hours ago, lawan21 said:

all the new “good” sellers were denied entry. ???

Yes. Those who tried would receive either a notification or an email (it’s been a few years ago, I don’t remember) that basically said: “We’re not looking for more professionals like you at the moment”. One of the people who tried to get an account was my former creative director. I can confidently say that he is a professional with a fantastic portfolio and the platform in question would be lucky to have him. 

 

2 hours ago, lawan21 said:

Tests should be there to select the best designers upon entry.

I disagree. A lot of metrics for a creative process are very subjective. Also, you may be surprised to find out that based on those metrics *you* may not be “good” enough for the platform. There is a talk popping up on the forum every once and a while that $5-10 gigs are hurting everyone's bottom line and shouldn't be allowed, for instance. I disagree with that as well. 

[catwriter]

1 hour ago, lenasemenkova said:

There is a talk popping up on the forum every once and a while that $5-10 gigs are hurting everyone's bottom line and shouldn't be allowed, for instance.

My $10 gig (that's the price of the basic package, of course) is Fiverr's Choice, so I'd say that Fiverr itself disagrees with that.

[j6nyc6]

14 hours ago, lawan21 said:

buyers always tend to judge with the quantity of previous work and experiences

We were all new sellers once. We had zero reviews under our belt plus most of the competition in our category were already established. We still managed to prosper despite the odds. We did so by putting together a well-thought out gig showcasing our talent and offering potential clients a service that matches our price tag. 

[genuineguidance]

4 hours ago, lawan21 said:

Thanks but when did you enter Fiverr ?

When did you enter Fiverr? Was it this last May? So you are a new seller complaining about other new sellers?

As it stands now, Fiverr lets any old person into the clubhouse. Some ideas have been floated in order to attract sellers who are actually serious and have the skill set they claim, but, until Fiverr wants to enact something different, the riffraff will find a way in the door with the elite.

GG

[mariashtelle1]

15 hours ago, lawan21 said:

inept and unskilled sellers are gaining numbers.

They are gaining numbers but the same soon they will leave, and other will replace them and they will also leave freelancing.

I stopped worrying about competition when I started concentrating on my business. 

There are always will be 5-10$ gigs and that's great, we are living in the capitalism world and everyone can offer or charge what they want and there are always will be clients for low, middle and high priced gigs. It's all about knowing which clients are your target audience.

If a politician is preparing his leaflets for a campaign he will never go to a 5$ seller even if his gig looks great, they will hire someone with established reputation and will be ready to overpay for expertise and no worries about thee process and the content. 

If someone is worried that they will go out of the business just because there are 5$ gig then I would say that that person doesn't believe in his skills and doesn't know needs of his clientele and how to change to the market needs. A true professional will always have work and a person who is worried about 5$ competition will sooner or later go out of the business.  

Even a graphic design field that might seem saturated at the moment I think is still  underserved with true professionals and therefore there always will be space for qualified people who are professionals in their niche. 

[lawan21]

2 hours ago, genuineguidance said:

When did you enter Fiverr? Was it this last May? So you are a new seller complaining about other new sellers?

As it stands now, Fiverr lets any old person into the clubhouse. Some ideas have been floated in order to attract sellers who are actually serious and have the skill set they claim, but, until Fiverr wants to enact something different, the riffraff will find a way in the door with the elite.

GG

Thanks for the reply

LOL...who complained the new sellers ?....I'm thinking this would have been a bit more successful if fiverr can filter and get the best people in here when they join. I know great things take time and its not a complain at all...lol

And will it do a harm to take steps to ensure credibility of the new sellers ?. lol

In my country Right now its becoming a joke that everyone's creating accounts and posting  gigs...lol.....I may sound hypocritical but that's the reality.

 

[lawan21]

2 hours ago, mariashtelle1 said:

stopped worrying about competition when I started concentrating on my business. 

There are always will be 5-10$ gigs and that's great, we are living in the capitalism world and everyone can offer or charge what they want and there are always will be clients for low, middle and high priced gigs. It's all about knowing which clients are your target audience.

This is the path I am in right now. Thanks......And I'm not worried about 5$-10$ gigs as far as they can afford a service to that and that's not the question I'm raising here.....

[lawan21]

2 hours ago, corsogr said:

I don't see any problem. The more the sellers the better for the buyers. Also, you will outshine and out-hustle more sellers in your category especially if they are unskilled as you wrote.

So, you do not have to fear competition if more unskilled sellers are gaining numbers.

Thanks man..

Its not the competition man....Don't you think the buyers are starting to doubt new sellers because of these crappy services......I get a lot of buyer requests clearly mentioning """"please do not offer unless you are capable of delivering the mentioned results.""""""...........

That's what I meant by productivity. If a buyer fails to get the job done or sometimes he finds the seller cant even do a basic thing.............. thats when he starts doubting the productivity inside Fiverr

[mariashtelle1]

2 minutes ago, lawan21 said:

thats when he starts doubting the productivity inside Fiverr

And again that depends on the price tag you are looking at 😉 

I know fiverr can make people think that services can be done cheap but everything what’s below market rate most likely to be a gamble and low quality. People with real skills charge way more than 5$ or even 50$ gigs. 
 

if you order from on of the pro verified seller you’ll see that the quality is not compromised at the right price tag. 

[lawan21]

3 hours ago, j6nyc6 said:

We were all new sellers once. We had zero reviews under our belt plus most of the competition in our category were already established. We still managed to prosper despite the odds. We did so by putting together a well-thought out gig showcasing our talent and offering potential clients a service that matches our price tag. 

Thanks....I know great things take time......patience is a must......I'm just raising a question here lol.....wouldn't it have been more successful ?

[lawan21]

8 minutes ago, mariashtelle1 said:

And again that depends on the price tag you are looking at 😉 

So out of 200 5$ offers you pick the highest priced offer

But then how can you guarantee that he is not a scammer who's offering a 50$ service....LOL....anyone can send offers to buyer requests with authority.....🤣

 

[mariashtelle1]

If 50$ is the highest from the offers that you received but it’s still below market rate then no one can guarantee that it’s still will be quality work 🤷‍♀️ 
highest offer in below the market rate prices doesn’t mean much. 

[afarigh]

4 hours ago, mariashtelle1 said:

 

There are always will be 5-10$ gigs and that's great, we are living in the capitalism world and everyone can offer or charge what they want and there are always will be clients for low, middle and high priced gigs.

I totally agree! I think that’s what makes Fiverr a great marketplace for both sellers and buyers.

I think what’s important is positioning — how I am able to effectively position myself in the market, be it my targeted niche or price point.

As a new seller, I can’t say it was easy to get the first couple of orders and I don’t think it will be easy in the future too. But the challenge will be to find the right price point with the right amount of orders for me to survive on the platform.

Also, one of the things attracting a lot of new sellers to Fiverr is, there is effectively no barrier of entry. It’s to be seen whether it will remain the same 

[newsmike]

6 hours ago, genuineguidance said:

the riffraff will find a way in the door with the elite.

I wish there was a badge you could be awarded for bringing underused words like "riffraff" back to life.  Made me laugh.  Now I can't wait to use "shenanigins" on someone.  Nice. 

[leannelrivers]

17 hours ago, newsmike said:

I wish there was a badge you could be awarded for bringing underused words like "riffraff" back to life.  Made me laugh.  Now I can't wait to use "shenanigins" on someone.  Nice. 

There's definitely been a rise of riffraff and posting shenanigans on the forum. They're a little worse than scamps but not quite as bad as hooligans.