whyareyousocool Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 Hello buddies! This is Gigi the newbie! I'm hoping to improve with other newbies (yep, y'all) so I'm offering free gig/ profile descriptions. Simply offer me free services of your expertise, which may potentially improve my account/ profile, in return will do. For instance, you may offer website writing/ graphics design for my gig/ logo design for my profile... whatever, anything reasonable will do! Let's improve by establishing well-organized Fiverr seller accounts together! Looking forward to your response! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enunciator Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 Uhh. Free work violates Fiverr's ToS. 😬 Fiverr is a business platform, not a volunteer/charity service exchange. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whyareyousocool Posted June 26, 2021 Author Share Posted June 26, 2021 OMG! Will I receive warning then? 😞 Hope my account will not be banned (To admin: Really sorry about that, please delete my post) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ligiacarvalho Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 In addition to what @enunciatorjust mention, offering free gig profile description can mislead sellers to present themselves to buyers in a way that is not true. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visualstudios Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, enunciator said: Uhh. Free work violates Fiverr's ToS. 😬 Fiverr is a business platform, not a volunteer/charity service exchange. What? Free work as part of a gig is against Fiverr's TOS. Offering work in exchange for work anywhere else has nothing to do with Fiverr. I do video, nothing stops me from telling people "Hey, make me a logo for my profile and I'll make you a video for your gig in exchange" - as long as I'm not doing it inside the Fiverr platform. Fiverr has nothing to do with it. It's not breaking any rules. The forums, as far as I know, have nothing to do with your gigs themselves. There's no contracts here, no money going through Fiverr, no reviews, nothing. It's like going on reddit and proposing a work exchange. As for the legality of using work done by others in your gig, it will depend. If you are offering video services, your video must be done by you. If you're offering writing, the writing better be done by you. But if you're offering, say, music production, why would anyone care if your logo (which shows on all your gigs) was not designed by you? It's irrelevant. It's not what you're selling, so it's not misleading anyone. And as far as I know there's no rule stating that "every single thing in your profile/gig must have been done by you". Not only is it impossible to enforce, it wouldn't make any sense. I could literally get a friend to sit with me at the computer and write my entire profile for me. Then what? Fiverr is not big brother. Edited June 26, 2021 by visualstudios 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whyareyousocool Posted June 26, 2021 Author Share Posted June 26, 2021 @ligiacarvalho I can see your point Thanks so much for your info and really sorry for my ignorance over the TOS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enunciator Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 1 minute ago, visualstudios said: as long as I'm not doing it inside the Fiverr platform. Most conversations in the Fiverr forum about gigs and services, one can reasonably assume, are about performing said gigs and services on Fiverr. I never addressed doing a tit for tat exchange elsewhere in the vast breadth of the world wide web because I thought it was apparent I was addressing the practice of exchanging free work on Fiverr. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visualstudios Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 (edited) Well, that isn't against TOS, because it can't happen. If the work is done through Fiverr (so, through gigs), the price can't be zero, since that isn't an option. If sending anything through Fiverr's message system without payment is an offence, 90% of people have to get banned for sending "free samples". You simply can't regulate that. Let people do what they will. Edited June 26, 2021 by visualstudios Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enunciator Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 (edited) But it can potentially be done on the site via messaging and attachments. I think we are all VERY familiar with rookie sellers getting hoodwinked performing free work to scammy buyers via messages and attachments. Edited June 26, 2021 by enunciator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visualstudios Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 (edited) Sure, it can. People send free work via messaging and attachments constantly. Many times it's clueless sellers trying to land a promised deal that then doesn't pan out. Should they all get banned? Why? It's their loss, really. In any case, the forum is not Fiverr. I can't contact a client that messages me inside Fiverr through other means. But if I talk to someone on the forums that I want to build a working relationship with, nothing stops me from finding them outside and contacting directly, via e-mail, for example. Where's the rule against that? It wouldn't even be legal. Edited June 26, 2021 by visualstudios 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enunciator Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 You said it is an impossibility. I said it can happen and actually happens frequently. I'm not sure why this is continuing. 🤷♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visualstudios Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 If an order is not open, there's no obligation on either party to do or not do anything. Fiverr has nothing to do with it. There's no contract. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enunciator Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 But there is an obligation to not spam others with irrelevant and fruitless messages and requests. If someone asks me for free work or an "exchange" of some kind other than money for services, they're getting marked as spam or reported. I'm out! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visualstudios Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 (edited) Of course! That's a totally different topic. That's spam. I get those messages frequently, and it doesn't work well for those who send them. However, talking about it in the forum and pursuing it only with people who are interested is not spam. They agreed to it, and were interested. No problems. If I wasn't clear originally - never send unsolicited direct messages to anyone on Fiverr asking/offering work. Edited June 26, 2021 by visualstudios 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reza_asif Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 A gig description is a personal work experienced detail and what you can do for the buyer. then how one suppose to write in your gig detail? i think its not ethical and also contradict to fiver TOS. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whyareyousocool Posted June 26, 2021 Author Share Posted June 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, reza_asif said: A gig description is a personal work experienced detail and what you can do for the buyer. then how one suppose to write in your gig detail? i think its not ethical and also contradict to fiver TOS. Oh what I mean is the reconstruction of ideas from the seller whose description is to be written btw I shall expect asking for the info before I start writing (I hate making things up) Anyways once again really sorry for my ignorance 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goffer6575 Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 welcome and good luck for future 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whyareyousocool Posted June 26, 2021 Author Share Posted June 26, 2021 1 minute ago, goffer6575 said: welcome and good luck for future That's so kind of you Also wishing you good luck and receiving lots of orders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whyareyousocool Posted June 26, 2021 Author Share Posted June 26, 2021 why on earth is this topic defined as hot? oh dear don't ban my account please, admin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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