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[frank_d]

There are plenty of ways to advertise without spending money though.

In that case it’s not advertising. It’s promoting.

[kendal1747]

In that case allow me to disagree. (although kudos for decoding Kendal’s reply)

I think that once a seller creates a profile on a platform like Fiverr, they should try to optimize to take advantage of said platform.

Spending money on off site ads (a feature that will be released soon by Fiverr BTW) makes very little sense IMO.

You are paying money for people to come on Fiverr where if they bounce, they will find 100s of sellers like you to choose from. (not to mention Fiverr has ways to suggest other sellers to your prospect even if they land on your gig)

If you want to advertise, then diversify. Create a personal website, and pay ads to send people there.

I politely disagree with your observation. Fiverr is constantly telling us to promote ourselves on other sites. I know people that have brought Big Names to Fiverr and got TRS very quickly.

[michal247]

In that case it’s not advertising. It’s promoting.

Yup right, I don’t know much about technical names for it. I suck at marketing currently, most knowledge I know about comes from Seth Godin book lol but I managed to get one big client outside of fiverr to fiverr

[frank_d]

I politely disagree with your observation. Fiverr is constantly telling us to promote ourselves on other sites. I know people that have brought Big Names to Fiverr and got TRS very quickly.

That is your prerogative of course.

I am a Pro and TRS seller, and I am not confident enough to pay to bring people to my profile, where my competition also lives.

Kudos to your friends, and feel free to try the same.

If you do so, please try the wonderful BYOB feature, so that you can keep the 20% Fiverr would otherwise get.

[trafficspurt]

So, I’m one of the sellers that got “struck” by this new algorithm change.

You need to understand that this “new thing” is not here to smite users.

In your case you just “dropped the ball” on one possibly important metric.

What happened during your record-breaking month? How many orders did you fulfil?

Any buyers seemed agitated? Any negative reviews? Any orders went late?

Something happened that in all probability told Fiverr that you are not capable to handle any more.

I went through the profiles of sellers that currently have the most orders in the queue in my categories.

You are most likely getting a distorted view of this. Fiverr is not sending the gigs you would be seeing if you were a buyer in your niche.

Or maybe what you are seeing is your competitor’s last “record-breaking month” and they are destined to be met with the same lull immediately afterwards.

I don’t think you should change anything until you figure out what went wrong in your case.

It’s hard to figure what went wrong and which metrics I dropped if nothing out of the ordinary happened.

This is probably the thing that annoys most people. We don’t know what we did wrong.

I’m all up for updates and I’m confident in the quality of my work. But I’m not a fan of drastic changes like I just experienced.

I did make some changes to my gigs. But they were long overdue.

[michal247]

It’s hard to figure what went wrong and which metrics I dropped if nothing out of the ordinary happened.

This is probably the thing that annoys most people. We don’t know what we did wrong.

I’m all up for updates and I’m confident in the quality of my work. But I’m not a fan of drastic changes like I just experienced.

I did make some changes to my gigs. But they were long overdue.

I share this confusion a lot of times, though I like to edit my gigs a lot.

[kendal1747]

That is your prerogative of course.

I am a Pro and TRS seller, and I am not confident enough to pay to bring people to my profile, where my competition also lives.

Kudos to your friends, and feel free to try the same.

If you do so, please try the wonderful BYOB feature, so that you can keep the 20% Fiverr would otherwise get.

I did not say that I was doing it. I know people have done it and Fiverr loved it. I have other responsiblities besides a full time job and I am only a level one seller. Fiverr wants the big names, that is evident.

[frank_d]

I did not say that I was doing it. I know people have done it and Fiverr loved it. I have other responsiblities besides a full time job and I am only a level one seller. Fiverr wants the big names, that is evident.

Well it makes sense for Fiverr to want more traffic, regardless of who gets to make the sale.

Let that sink in.

I still don’t think Fiverr takes into account traffic you bring them.

Unless you are an active member of the affiliate program, I don’t think it matters. And even then, it’s still not part of the “formula”.

[trafficspurt]

Well it makes sense for Fiverr to want more traffic, regardless of who gets to make the sale.

Let that sink in.

I still don’t think Fiverr takes into account traffic you bring them.

Unless you are an active member of the affiliate program, I don’t think it matters. And even then, it’s still not part of the “formula”.

Well, this is just an observation, but my profile grew when I started bringing traffic (clients) to my gig.

It would make sense for Fiverr to notice when a gig gets notices from “outside” traffic.

But again, this is purely anecdotal and I could be totally wrong.

[michal247]

Well, this is just an observation, but my profile grew when I started bringing traffic (clients) to my gig.

It would make sense for Fiverr to notice when a gig gets notices from “outside” traffic.

But again, this is purely anecdotal and I could be totally wrong.

I also feel like it. The more clients I have in queue the more is inquiring, while when I don’t have any sales im usually without orders in queue for 1-3 weeks.

[kendal1747]

Well it makes sense for Fiverr to want more traffic, regardless of who gets to make the sale.

Let that sink in.

I still don’t think Fiverr takes into account traffic you bring them.

Unless you are an active member of the affiliate program, I don’t think it matters. And even then, it’s still not part of the “formula”.

I am happy to disagree and that is fine. Fact: selllers have brought in big names and profitted heavily on Fiverr. Who cares about the 20%, when you are granted access to the best buyers and I do mean access. Not all of us get access to the same buyers, period. That is not hard to figure out.

[michal247]

I am happy to disagree and that is fine. Fact: selllers have brought in big names and profitted heavily on Fiverr. Who cares about the 20%, when you are granted access to the best buyers and I do mean access. Not all of us get access to the same buyers, period. That is not hard to figure out.

I don’t see any point working on fiverr when you have most of your income come from outside. You are not really proffiting on fiverr this way? I don’t understand your idea

If you can get clients yourself what’s the point of using fiverr which main purpose is to bring you clients?

[kendal1747]

I don’t see any point working on fiverr when you have most of your income come from outside. You are not really proffiting on fiverr this way? I don’t understand your idea

If you can get clients yourself what’s the point of using fiverr which main purpose is to bring you clients?

You don’t get what I am saying. Once you bring in your buyers and they see what you have done and can do, then you move up the ladder to level one, level two, level three. You are granted access to better buyers on this platform and they are regulars from around the world. They don’t care to spend for example $300, $500 for a product or whatever you are selling.

[michal247]

You don’t get what I am saying. Once you bring in your buyers and they see what you have done and can do, then you move up the ladder to level one, level two, level three. You are granted access to better buyers on this platform and they are regulars from around the world. They don’t care to spend for example $300, $500 for a product or whatever you are selling.

I disagree, when I was level one and level two it didn’t really did much to me (besides getting much lower views when I became level one).

Now im not even level 1 and 2 orders in my queue are around 200$. And im just 18 year old kid right? People suddenly have a lot of money when you are providing something they desperately need. But you won’t have that experience providing data entry or whatever. Imo the levels give somewhere between little to no benefits, just as doing knowledge tests.

And if you will become level 1, level 2 or even TPS just by bringing clients outside there is big chance you won’t succeed. You have to take a lot of time to study “fiverr game” and how to make it bring you anyone. Doesn’t matter if you are level 1 or TPS.

[kendal1747]

I disagree, when I was level one and level two it didn’t really did much to me (besides getting much lower views when I became level one).

Now im not even level 1 and 2 orders in my queue are around 200$. And im just 18 year old kid right? People suddenly have a lot of money when you are providing something they desperately need. But you won’t have that experience providing data entry or whatever. Imo the levels give somewhere between little to no benefits, just as doing knowledge tests.

And if you will become level 1, level 2 or even TPS just by bringing clients outside there is big chance you won’t succeed. You have to take a lot of time to study “fiverr game” and how to make it bring you anyone. Doesn’t matter if you are level 1 or TPS.

Great for you. Keep doing what you are doing.

[frank_d]

I am happy to disagree and that is fine. Fact: selllers have brought in big names and profitted heavily on Fiverr. Who cares about the 20%, when you are granted access to the best buyers and I do mean access. Not all of us get access to the same buyers, period. That is not hard to figure out.

Fact: selllers have brought in big names and profitted heavily on Fiverr.

I don’t really see a fact.

I see a generic claim.

Who cares about the 20%, when you are granted access to the best buyers and I do mean access.

Once again I am not able to understand what it is you are talking about. How are you “granted access” to the “best buyers”?

By bringing them to Fiverr on your own?

Fiverr then rewards you somehow?

[vibronx]

Fact: selllers have brought in big names and profitted heavily on Fiverr.

I don’t really see a fact.

I see a generic claim.

Who cares about the 20%, when you are granted access to the best buyers and I do mean access.

Once again I am not able to understand what it is you are talking about. How are you “granted access” to the “best buyers”?

By bringing them to Fiverr on your own?

Fiverr then rewards you somehow?

I think @kendal1747 is saying that the people you bring from outside will help you level up, which will then bring better buyers - meaning the level will bring you buyers. That is how I read it, anyway. I think most buyers care much less about levels than us sellers do. Maybe TRS or Pro can help sway a buyer as they look shiny and different, but I think the offering is much more important than a level. I will add that you can get access to those same, higher quality buyers no matter your level through positioning.

However, I do not advertise or promote outside of Fiverr. In my opinion, we have all the tools necessary to market our gigs effectively within the Fiverr platform itself. We are given millions of potential buyers within the platform and a thumbnail/video, pricing, titles, gig images, PDFs, and gig descriptions to attract them. That is more than enough for me to attract buyers successfully.

Also, as @frank_d said, we will be getting the option to advertise off the platform soon through Fiverr, and I am looking forward to seeing what that brings.

Lastly, thank you so much for creating this thread, Frank. It has been a very interesting read!

[michal247]

I think @kendal1747 is saying that the people you bring from outside will help you level up, which will then bring better buyers - meaning the level will bring you buyers. That is how I read it, anyway. I think most buyers care much less about levels than us sellers do. Maybe TRS or Pro can help sway a buyer as they look shiny and different, but I think the offering is much more important than a level. I will add that you can get access to those same, higher quality buyers no matter your level through positioning.

However, I do not advertise or promote outside of Fiverr. In my opinion, we have all the tools necessary to market our gigs effectively within the Fiverr platform itself. We are given millions of potential buyers within the platform and a thumbnail/video, pricing, titles, gig images, PDFs, and gig descriptions to attract them. That is more than enough for me to attract buyers successfully.

Also, as @frank_d said, we will be getting the option to advertise off the platform soon through Fiverr, and I am looking forward to seeing what that brings.

Lastly, thank you so much for creating this thread, Frank. It has been a very interesting read!

Yeah much respect to Frank, its very rarely to see so good topics here

[wordsfire]

That is your prerogative of course.

I am a Pro and TRS seller, and I am not confident enough to pay to bring people to my profile, where my competition also lives.

Kudos to your friends, and feel free to try the same.

If you do so, please try the wonderful BYOB feature, so that you can keep the 20% Fiverr would otherwise get.

If you do so, please try the wonderful BYOB feature, so that you can keep the 20% Fiverr would otherwise get.

What is the BYOB feature?

I have never heard of it before.

Also, wish you a belated Happy Birthday!! 🍰

[frank_d]

If you do so, please try the wonderful BYOB feature, so that you can keep the 20% Fiverr would otherwise get.

What is the BYOB feature?

I have never heard of it before.

Also, wish you a belated Happy Birthday!! 🍰

It’s a feature called Bring Your Own Business.

You create links to your gig and any order that comes from said link, 100% of the sale will go to you. Fiverr will not take 20%.

[vickiespencer]

If you do so, please try the wonderful BYOB feature, so that you can keep the 20% Fiverr would otherwise get.

What is the BYOB feature?

I have never heard of it before.

Also, wish you a belated Happy Birthday!! 🍰

What is the BYOB feature?

It’s a feature called Bring Your Own Business.

When I was young, the host often added this acronym to party invitations, which meant something quite different! 😉

[donnovan86]

You don’t get what I am saying. Once you bring in your buyers and they see what you have done and can do, then you move up the ladder to level one, level two, level three. You are granted access to better buyers on this platform and they are regulars from around the world. They don’t care to spend for example $300, $500 for a product or whatever you are selling.

You don’t get what I am saying. Once you bring in your buyers and they see what you have done and can do, then you move up the ladder to level one, level two, level three. You are granted access to better buyers on this platform and they are regulars from around the world. They don’t care to spend for example $300, $500 for a product or whatever you are selling.

You were lucky most likely.

As far as I saw, you get people with all budgets if you have an accomplished portfolio and lots of reviews. Despite the fact that I have a low price point, I was still promoted to people that have a high budget and which didn’t mind spending upwards of $100 for an article.

[kendal1747]

Fact: selllers have brought in big names and profitted heavily on Fiverr.

I don’t really see a fact.

I see a generic claim.

Who cares about the 20%, when you are granted access to the best buyers and I do mean access.

Once again I am not able to understand what it is you are talking about. How are you “granted access” to the “best buyers”?

By bringing them to Fiverr on your own?

Fiverr then rewards you somehow?

Well, you must be living in a bubble. People on different levels get access to different clientele.

[wordsfire]

It’s a feature called Bring Your Own Business.

You create links to your gig and any order that comes from said link, 100% of the sale will go to you. Fiverr will not take 20%.

It’s a feature called Bring Your Own Business.

You create links to your gig and any order that comes from said link, 100% of the sale will go to you. Fiverr will not take 20%

Interesting because I don’t seem to find it anywhere.

Nothing in the ToS either.

[frank_d]

Well, you must be living in a bubble. People on different levels get access to different clientele.

I started off as level 0, and then proceeded to get every single badge there is on this platform.

One might argue that buyers who purchase my Pro services are “the best” but since I have about 100 more Pro orders completed than you do, allow me to know first hand that this is not the case.

The only “different level of clientele” I have seen are buyers who have a “Fiverr business” account.

All levels have access to them. As long as you have a strong offering.

Still waiting for “facts”.

@wordsfire Not sure if it’s available for everyone. It’s on my dashboard since 2017.

I spoke to the product leader back in 2018 and they said they planned on making improvements and rolling it out for everyone.

Not sure they did either.