jonbaas Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 (post withdrawn by author, will be automatically deleted in 24 hours unless flagged)Imagine still holding this opinionI am not stating an opinion, I am expressing a fact – as Fiverr themselves have announced it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaganjaidka Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 thanks this is really helpful !! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myexplainervid Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 they are not accepting it that there is a problem with Gig Placement.There is no problem with “gig placement”. Fiverr says that the algorithm is working as it should. It rotates gigs on a daily basis according to internal calculations and metrics we don’t know. No seller is guarantee any specific placement in the search results just because they want that position.If you want to improve your sales potential, it would be wise to spend some time researching your target customers, connecting to them, and encouraging them to hire you. It is unwise to expect the intentionally varied search system to provide all of your sales. As a seller, you are a business person. It is your responsibility to build your success. No one else, or any algorithm, can do that for you.Okay, so you mean to say hundreds of sellers who are complaining here, all are wrong?Even the sellers who have thousands of reviews?It is not the case with 1 seller, many sellers with hundreds of reviews are complaining. So definitely there is some bug in the algorithm. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bodmas Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blavaro Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 The number of Fiverr sellers and gigs increased exponentially during last few months and it is likely it will continue till some point.Just with simple logic the search result must be different with every new account and gig. This is occam´s razor explanation.No need to speculate if Fiverr changed some line in algorithm´s code. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misscrystal Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 Okay, so you mean to say hundreds of sellers who are complaining here, all are wrong?Even the sellers who have thousands of reviews?It is not the case with 1 seller, many sellers with hundreds of reviews are complaining. So definitely there is some bug in the algorithm.I’m going to try to explain what I think jonbaas means. It’s possible that fiverr actually wants it the way it is. Maybe fiverr doesn’t see it as a bug. While it’s bad for sellers who have experienced this, it could be that this is a test to see what sellers will do to improve their gigs or modify them or add new gigs so that they are moved back up.I know of two sellers who made improvements to their gigs and are now on the first page of their search terms, after being on the last page.At one time I had a very popular gig moved to the end of the listings. I made some changes to it and it was again placed in a good position. Just because you have a gig on the last page does not mean it has to stay there. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myexplainervid Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 I’m going to try to explain what I think jonbaas means. It’s possible that fiverr actually wants it the way it is. Maybe fiverr doesn’t see it as a bug. While it’s bad for sellers who have experienced this, it could be that this is a test to see what sellers will do to improve their gigs or modify them or add new gigs so that they are moved back up.I know of two sellers who made improvements to their gigs and are now on the first page of their search terms, after being on the last page.At one time I had a very popular gig moved to the end of the listings. I made some changes to it and it was again placed in a good position. Just because you have a gig on the last page does not mean it has to stay there.I understand that. Let’s see what happens when Gig Stats issue is fixed. Are your Gigs ranking well currently? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insects44 Posted June 11, 2020 Author Share Posted June 11, 2020 I’m going to try to explain what I think jonbaas means. It’s possible that fiverr actually wants it the way it is. Maybe fiverr doesn’t see it as a bug. While it’s bad for sellers who have experienced this, it could be that this is a test to see what sellers will do to improve their gigs or modify them or add new gigs so that they are moved back up.I know of two sellers who made improvements to their gigs and are now on the first page of their search terms, after being on the last page.At one time I had a very popular gig moved to the end of the listings. I made some changes to it and it was again placed in a good position. Just because you have a gig on the last page does not mean it has to stay there.It could be that this is a test to see what sellers will do to improve their gigs or modify them or add new gigs so that they are moved back up.This is the best theory I heard by now. And I hope it is right! It kinda reminds me of this:screenshot_437708×344 15.5 KBFiverr likes doing tests I think. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blavaro Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 It is just generic answer. I saw many similar last weeks…See slight differences like “For example, we don´t want to show Gigs that are not active” vs “For example, we do not display gigs that are not active”image680×534 37.1 KB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bodmas Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 It could be that this is a test to see what sellers will do to improve their gigs or modify them or add new gigs so that they are moved back up.This is the best theory I heard by now. And I hope it is right! It kinda reminds me of this:screenshot_437708×344 15.5 KBFiverr likes doing tests I think.Another seller received this same text last two weeks from CS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bodmas Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 Today at 01:24 (25 days ago)Hello there, Malik,It is a bummer to hear that you are experiencing order and Search position issues with your amended Gig. I do appreciate how worrying this must have been for you.I am June from the Customer Support Team and I’ll gladly look into the matter further and advise you accordingly. Please accept my apologies for the delayed response. Kindly be advised that we are receiving an increased amount of tickets in the previous several weeks.I have just double-checked on your Gig for the creation of a professional Wordpress website and I can confirm that this Gig is both active and searchable.Please be advised that we are currently running some tests on the search placement algorithm to best maximize the search results for all Gigs. The goal of these tests is to make sure that we’re showing the best Gigs for the intended search results. For example, we don’t want to show Gigs that are not active, sellers who are on vacation, the ones that are not original etc. We’re weighing a multitude of factors for these tests, and not just one specific aspect of a Gig.We are constantly working to improve the marketplace, and we appreciate your patience while we work to make the marketplace even better. Please bear in mind that we are unable to improve the Gig’s position in Search manually as it is determined by the algorithm." 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misscrystal Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 This is the most participated and interesting discussion we’ve had in a long time so of course it’s being closed.Why is this forum limited to only the same repetitive 12 questions that get asked?We have very few people other than new sellers who come to the forum now. Isn’t is more interesting to have a variety of topics rather than the same ones over and over? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rahulgraphics Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 This topic will automatically close in 15 hours. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misscrystal Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 I know there was a poll asking if this should be closed but why can’t people who aren’t interested in it simply not pay attention to it?I agree some of the suggestions were framed in a way to suggest that they will work for everyone but is that a reason to shut down what is an important subject?The point was to say that if you are in the back of the listings then try some new things with your gigs. It’s not really a bad suggestion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bodmas Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 I know there was a poll asking if this should be closed but why can’t people who aren’t interested in it simply not pay attention to it?I agree some of the suggestions were framed in a way to suggest that they will work for everyone but is that a reason to shut down what is an important subject?The point was to say that if you are in the back of the listings then try some new things with your gigs. It’s not really a bad suggestion.why can’t people who aren’t interested in it simply not pay attention to it?Agreed… This is a forum, you choose the topic you participate in… If you are simply not interested in the thread discussion, you simply do not need effort to bring the thread down… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misscrystal Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 There were some forceful suggestions made in a blanket way that implied they would definitely work for anyone who found their gigs had been moved to the back of the ranks.So there was some valid criticism of that.But this has evolved into a general discussion that is helpful for anyone who wants some suggestions of actions to try if they had that happen.I notice the discussions that get closed are always ones that don’t fit the usual banal questions we see all the time. And they often are the ones with the most responses and interest.I could understand it if it had remained one where the OP kept making statements of what to do that would definitely solve everyone’s problem. But it’s much more than that at this point.If people are encouraged to make some positive changes in their gigs then it has value.This discussion has opened up some new thinking for me in how I can improve my gigs. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miiila Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 The “we only want to show active gigs” theme isn’t new, it didn’t suddenly come up with this last iteration of ranking issues, we’ve read that before, and it’s kind of a given anyway, it’s also the reason why many people have a period of fewer orders after pausing gigs, using out if office mode, “having been away”. Of course Fiverr doesn’t want to show people inactive gigs/sellers, independently from whether they are doing changes to the algorithm, integrating new features and analytics, or not.Regarding closing the topic, I also don’t like it when personal experiences of one seller get presented as “the solution”, recommend things that might get others in trouble, etc., but OP changed the title, after some people expressed their concern, also, there are a lot of differing opinions now, and if someone only reads the opening post of such a topic and/or takes everything one single seller writes (never mind which seller, including newbies and everyone up to TRS and Pro sellers) as the gospel, well, that’s on them.Topics that are more controversial than about 98% of what the forum now seems to consist of, are indeed not that common, and you can often find nuggets in them, including detailed posts and replies people got from support, and tend to be more interesting than the usual forum fare, even if it is a repetitive subject, depending on how people take it up and interact with it.Unless forum rules are broken, or they deteriorate into “thank you for these great tips” threads, I don’t see much reason to close them, whe they are still fresh.When such threads get old and might or do contain old and potentially “dangerous” info (like threads telling you about how to ask a buyer to change their review), they should better be quarantined into a Fiverr museum archive thread. But a thread that’s only a day or two old, why not let it run until people get tired of it or interested in other topics on their own, some people only check in once a week or so, and might also have something to say on the subject. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misscrystal Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 The “we only want to show active gigs” theme isn’t new, it didn’t suddenly come up with this last iteration of ranking issues, we’ve read that before, and it’s kind of a given anyway, it’s also the reason why many people have a period of fewer orders after pausing gigs, using out if office mode, “having been away”. Of course Fiverr doesn’t want to show people inactive gigs/sellers, independently from whether they are doing changes to the algorithm, integrating new features and analytics, or not.Regarding closing the topic, I also don’t like it when personal experiences of one seller get presented as “the solution”, recommend things that might get others in trouble, etc., but OP changed the title, after some people expressed their concern, also, there are a lot of differing opinions now, and if someone only reads the opening post of such a topic and/or takes everything one single seller writes (never mind which seller, including newbies and everyone up to TRS and Pro sellers) as the gospel, well, that’s on them.Topics that are more controversial than about 98% of what the forum now seems to consist of, are indeed not that common, and you can often find nuggets in them, including detailed posts and replies people got from support, and tend to be more interesting than the usual forum fare, even if it is a repetitive subject, depending on how people take it up and interact with it.Unless forum rules are broken, or they deteriorate into “thank you for these great tips” threads, I don’t see much reason to close them, whe they are still fresh.When such threads get old and might or do contain old and potentially “dangerous” info (like threads telling you about how to ask a buyer to change their review), they should better be quarantined into a Fiverr museum archive thread. But a thread that’s only a day or two old, why not let it run until people get tired of it or interested in other topics on their own, some people only check in once a week or so, and might also have something to say on the subject.you can often find nuggets in them, including detailed posts and replies people got from support, and tend to be more interesting than the usual forum fare^^^^^^ This. I have indeed found nuggets of wisdom and new fresh ideas in this thread that are leading me into new directions and ideas to improve my gigs.So now this thread is being closed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insects44 Posted June 11, 2020 Author Share Posted June 11, 2020 you can often find nuggets in them, including detailed posts and replies people got from support, and tend to be more interesting than the usual forum fare^^^^^^ This. I have indeed found nuggets of wisdom and new fresh ideas in this thread that are leading me into new directions and ideas to improve my gigs.So now this thread is being closed.Ask @wp_kid, he knows why. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misscrystal Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 Ask @wp_kid, he knows why.He is following that poll. At least it was left open long enough for me to have some new ideas from it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insects44 Posted June 11, 2020 Author Share Posted June 11, 2020 He is following that poll. At least it was left open long enough for me to have some new ideas from it.If he didn’t want to, he woudn’t even put that poll there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misscrystal Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 If he didn’t want to, he woudn’t even put that poll there.Look at the bright side. He could have closed it immediately but let it stay open a while longer. We can wait and hope the person who was going to try your methods will make a new thread saying how it worked.I notice the message it will close soon has been removed. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insects44 Posted June 11, 2020 Author Share Posted June 11, 2020 Look at the bright side. He could have closed it immediately but let it stay open a while longer. We can wait and hope the person who was going to try your methods will make a new thread saying how it worked.I notice the message it will close soon has been removed.Oh, Idk why he did that, but thanks! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevis24 Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 Do you remember when all this started? I had checked my rank on May 1, the Gig was on first page. but for two days on 2nd and 3rd May I did not get any inquiry. I checked again then it was on last page. So I think it is the May 2 as per Indian time and May 1 USA time when all this happened.Yes, it was somewhere around that. I cannot recall the exact date. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnmorgan244 Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 Interesting thread, thanks for the information. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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