PLEASE, Fix the Search Algorithm! (POLL)

[catwriter]

Guys, please don’t argue that much. This post is supposed to be support for those who are struggling (althought nobody is trying to support except for me 🙁 ).

(click me) The only way I can support is this:

Make sure your tags are what people will search in the search bar. Then:

1. Use tags all separated, no two words in one tag. Try to use synonyms instead of 2-worded tags. This is what I use:

   

2. Use your tags in your title:

   

3. Use more of your tags in your description, without making them way too many (I tried my best to add as many tags as possible without making it too much):

   

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Once you edit a gig, it may disappear from the search for about 24 hours, but you have a chance to get it in front of other gigs once it appears again. If your gig becomes viral (receives a lot of orders), NEVER edit your gig, as it may go back in the search results page.

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If this doesn’t work, apply for buyer requests, they may bring someone to you. If there are no buyer requests, stay online more, and refresh the page more often. If you tried to send proposals and never succeed, here are some tips on how to make your offers work:

Tips For Buyer Requests- From a Seller

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ATTENTION, I’M STILL NOT SURE IF THIS METHOD WORKS! It only worked for me by far. If someone else did it and it worked for them too, then this is the way to go!

I got nothing else, so I am searching… 🔎 Nobody is tryina help me either.

This post is supposed to be support for those who are struggling (althought nobody is trying to support except for me 🙁 ).

@cyaxrex said what he did to improve his situation. @eoinfinnegan wrote an entire series of posts to help (and was kind to give you links to all of them, so you don’t even have to search the forum, you can just click and read). So it’s really not nice of you to say that nobody is trying to help except for you (not to mention that it’s not true).

Of course, there is a bit of a problem with the solutions that they came up with…they require actual work. Continuous work. They’re not offering quick short-term fixes, which seems to be what you’re looking for.

[wp_kid]

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[misscrystal]

One problem I have is that people say the SEO method doesn’t work. There is something else going on. And I can’t understand what.

There is a large component of human intervention in where gigs appear that no one but me seems to realize.

There is also a way for fiverr to turn orders on and off for gigs at will regardless of which page they are on. It doesn’t seem doable but somehow they do it.

Each category has someone who devotes their time to only focusing on that category and deciding the layout and arrangement of gigs.

They are looking for certain things having nothing to do with number of reviews or time on fiverr apparently.

For some gigs the algorithm chooses to give it a good rank and for others a human decides.

[lenasemenkova]

There is a large component of human intervention in where gigs appear that no one but me seems to realize.

There is also a way for fiverr to turn orders on and off for gigs at will regardless of which page they are on. It doesn’t seem doable but somehow they do it.

Each category has someone who devotes their time to only focusing on that category and deciding the layout and arrangement of gigs.

They are looking for certain things having nothing to do with number of reviews or time on fiverr apparently.

For some gigs the algorithm chooses to give it a good rank and for others a human decides.

This, too. It’s an uncomfortable thought but Fiverr can make you invisible even though the ranking is good. And then it can make you so visible that you start to decline orders just to manage the workflow. While you’re on page 22.

It appears to not be connected to your performance (see all the “I have 100/100/100 l, where are my orders” posts). It’s just a whim. Or something.

So, again, build a strong base of regular customers and diversify your income if you can.

[misscrystal]

This, too. It’s an uncomfortable thought but Fiverr can make you invisible even though the ranking is good. And then it can make you so visible that you start to decline orders just to manage the workflow. While you’re on page 22.

It appears to not be connected to your performance (see all the “I have 100/100/100 l, where are my orders” posts). It’s just a whim. Or something.

So, again, build a strong base of regular customers and diversify your income if you can.

It’s just a whim.

It does seem like it. They do have certain things they look for but those things are deliberately obscure. And they mix it up so no one can figure it out.

The algorithm chooses some and the human chooses some.

How they appear on the first page and get no orders… after being flooded with orders, that’s a good trick.

Maybe they break it up into sections of the U.S. and the world so only a tiny section of the world that rarely orders is where the gig is mostly shown.

It’s not even about which gig earns the most sometimes or most of the time.

[lenasemenkova]

Also, how many people check their gig position when they’re doing good? Like, very good. When they’re so busy that they don’t have time for a second coffee or something. We tend to check the analytics, the gig placement, the clicks, etc. when things slow down. Who knows what page we’re on when we’re super busy.

[misscrystal]

Also, how many people check their gig position when they’re doing good? Like, very good. When they’re so busy that they don’t have time for a second coffee or something. We tend to check the analytics, the gig placement, the clicks, etc. when things slow down. Who knows what page we’re on when we’re super busy.

I don’t check more than once every few months.

But my gig is usually in a good spot but can flood orders or stop all orders without changing places.

And when it floods orders it’s for very large orders. I think my gigs are sometimes promoted in other places than fiverr. Why they ever stop is my question.

[lenasemenkova]

I don’t check more than once every few months.

But my gig is usually in a good spot but can flood orders or stop all orders without changing places.

And when it floods orders it’s for very large orders. I think my gigs are sometimes promoted in other places than fiverr. Why they ever stop is my question.

I think my gigs are sometimes promoted in other places than fiverr.

This might be the case as well. The “I don’t know how this works, what should I press” buyers come in waves and I do wonder where do they come from.

In my case, when I have a 4-5 days draught (which is unheard of for me), my gig is at the top spot in my category. Number 1 of the 1st row. I can’t explain why. Maybe it’s a psychological maneuver of some sort. “Look, things are FINE, you’re FINE, aren’t you?!” 🙂

[misscrystal]

I think my gigs are sometimes promoted in other places than fiverr.

This might be the case as well. The “I don’t know how this works, what should I press” buyers come in waves and I do wonder where do they come from.

In my case, when I have a 4-5 days draught (which is unheard of for me), my gig is at the top spot in my category. Number 1 of the 1st row. I can’t explain why. Maybe it’s a psychological maneuver of some sort. “Look, things are FINE, you’re FINE, aren’t you?!” 🙂

All I know is it can drive a person a little batty if they spend too much time thinking about it all. There are no answers to how it all works.

[lenasemenkova]

All I know is it can drive a person a little batty if they spend too much time thinking about it all. There are no answers to how it all works.

Which is why I gave up. My last “Where is my gig, did I do something wrong?!” email to CS is almost one year old.

[misscrystal]

There is no sense of having any control of anything. You can do different things and try to improve your gigs with nothing at all to go by. You don’t know what to do that might help, or might hurt you. This is the stressful part.

[d_designer44]

If the algorithm worked the way you say you want it to, you would never have been near the first page. You are here 4 years with 170 reviews - that’s low. There are many who would be ahead of you. So with your system, you would have no chance. Instead, because of how the algorithm works, top sellers have been moved back and that gave you a chance. Now you are complaining about the exact thing that got you sales…

A summary of all algorithm complaints is “Fiverr, put me at the front forever please cos I am a good boy and my mom says I’m special”.

100% agree with you quality of work is important

[misscrystal]

Fiverr can look to me for the development of the most humongous group of witches on the internet at least.

[toner2d]

One problem I have is that people say the SEO method doesn’t work. There is something else going on. And I can’t understand what.

Please read it carefully or don’t read it all. I hope nobody will be offended by this.

Sorry for my poor english.

I will try to explain fiverr search, and why i call it randomizer, from political point of view and left political agenda, which tells that everyone are equal or should be equal. It doesn’t mean that i try to involve here any controversial topics such as gender, race, nationality and etc. I don’t mean that at all. I respect each other and want you to do that too.

All i want to say: fiverr algorithm was written like: top rated sellers are equal to newbies, sellers with bad ratings are equal to seller with good ratings, gigs with seo are equal to gigs without seo and so on. That’s why gigs are always rotating in random way. A kind of socialism where everyone is equal and noone can become a champion in this race. All can be on the first page for little period.

But is this system good for any market or any participant? No, in my opinion, it’s compeletly wrong.

Is such a system beneficial to at least for someone, pro sellers, new sellers, buyers, fiverr itself? I don’t think so.

Is professional, that has many reviews and know his job, equal to someone with 0 reviews? Of course they are not. But fiverr says - yes, they are completely equal. What does this lead to?

Sellers that work hard and provide good services for years don’t see the great increase of their profits, should fight on forum and with CS.

New sellers do not have role motivational models. They don’t compete, they don’t looking for new niches and etc. They suddenly start to get orders, but it’s not their merit. It’s random success, which stop soon, when fiverr algorithm will go to new circle. Do they became better as professonals? I don’t think so.

Do buyers recieve the best services they can for their money? Again, i don’t think so. Randomizer don’t let them to find the real talent, that deserved to be find.

And fiverr can’t say: this guy do this thing better than all people on earth. It’s our guy from ourmarketplace, he is a real master, he is great talent. There is 1500000 orders in queue prepaid. He is so good, that buyers are ready to wait for months to work with him. LOL.

I’m not a talent, i’m just average seller, but i want to see on first page many talents of my niche to say: WOW, HOW DID HE DO IT, WORKS OF THIS GUY ARE F*CKIN AMAZING. And compete him with hard working. Instead of that there are multiple numbers of newbies on first pages. Because all are equal. But they are don’t. Everybody knows it. Messi is not equal to the guy, that bought the ball yesterday for the first time. Rock band with 20 years of touring is not equal to the band that nobody heard of. Developer that works for big company for years can’t be equal to junior developer. We are not equal as professionals and never will be. It’s an absurd. But anyway it’s sad reality of fiverr’s search.

BTW Is there any options to show to the world new sellers without this idea of economic equality and destroyment of search algorithms? Yes, of course. But it’s different story.

[insects44]

Guy, I’m letting you know I have a solution! I will post it once CS respond, as I wanna see what they say.

[sarikaverma007]

Guy, I’m letting you know I have a solution! I will post it once CS respond, as I wanna see what they say.

I am also waiting for CS revert my gig got 4 5* reviews but still on last page and i covert old buyer into returning buyer

[jigraphicexpert]

Thank you for your details issue yes i am facing same issue but it does not mean is there issue if your gig go rank on first page? How the new seller compete you? If there is 1k seller e.g all do same effort every seller send 10 request daily and also share their gig so how new seller come up to first page? So wait with patient hope your gig again viral.

[insects44]

Thank you for your details issue yes i am facing same issue but it does not mean is there issue if your gig go rank on first page? How the new seller compete you? If there is 1k seller e.g all do same effort every seller send 10 request daily and also share their gig so how new seller come up to first page? So wait with patient hope your gig again viral.

Solution coming in 12 hours. 🙂

[janebarnaby]

At the end of April and the beginning of March, my gig started really taking off. I was getting 1-2 orders a day instead of 1-2 a week or even a month. I foresaw it getting too busy (I’m a proofreader so I can only do so much), so I put my gig on a 3 order limit. It hit that limit for a day, then went below again, although I haven’t had an empty queue since. Now, here is where the oddness comes in. From the moment the order limit activated, I haven’t had a single message, a single order (by someone who isn’t a repeat buyer), and all my activity has dropped like a rock. This is very strange to me, because it was picking up so incredibly quickly the two weeks before. It’s around the time the analytics disappeared, though that might be unrelated.

Is this a thing that happened due to the order limit I put in place? Does my gig need to hit 0 orders for it to be “reactivated”? I ended up turning the limit off, but still, not a single word for the past month. Thankfully, I can survive on my repeat buyers, but this is very unnerving to someone who’s only been on this platform since January.

I have never used the search algorithm much to look at my own gigs, so sadly I can’t say much about that, but I assume my gig disappeared from that as well.

[abednasser581]

Solution coming in 12 hours. 🙂

For Stats bug “N/A” ! ,

[insects44]

Solution coming in 12 hours. 🙂

[abednasser581]

Solution and detailed explanation coming in 11 hours. 🙂

[sarikaverma007]

finally, the positive news but this time (11h) from CS , can tell my what CS were writing for you! 🙂

[insects44]

They are writing your gig is active and working fine and its our algo we give chances to everyone who is on our platform 😃

They are writing your gig is active and working fine and it’s our also we give chances to everyone who is on our platform 😃

Exactly, but in my case they wrote something else too. Have patience, I will explain everything till 11 hours.

[abednasser581]

They are writing your gig is active and working fine and it’s our also we give chances to everyone who is on our platform 😃

Exactly, but in my case they wrote something else too. Have patience, I will explain everything till 11 hours.

great news , so are you think this update (after 11h) having new algorithm to rotation of gigs?