PLEASE, Fix the Search Algorithm! (POLL)

[uk1000]

Please read it carefully or don’t read it all. I hope nobody will be offended by this.

Sorry for my poor english.

I will try to explain fiverr search, and why i call it randomizer, from political point of view and left political agenda, which tells that everyone are equal or should be equal. It doesn’t mean that i try to involve here any controversial topics such as gender, race, nationality and etc. I don’t mean that at all. I respect each other and want you to do that too.

All i want to say: fiverr algorithm was written like: top rated sellers are equal to newbies, sellers with bad ratings are equal to seller with good ratings, gigs with seo are equal to gigs without seo and so on. That’s why gigs are always rotating in random way. A kind of socialism where everyone is equal and noone can become a champion in this race. All can be on the first page for little period.

But is this system good for any market or any participant? No, in my opinion, it’s compeletly wrong.

Is such a system beneficial to at least for someone, pro sellers, new sellers, buyers, fiverr itself? I don’t think so.

Is professional, that has many reviews and know his job, equal to someone with 0 reviews? Of course they are not. But fiverr says - yes, they are completely equal. What does this lead to?

Sellers that work hard and provide good services for years don’t see the great increase of their profits, should fight on forum and with CS.

New sellers do not have role motivational models. They don’t compete, they don’t looking for new niches and etc. They suddenly start to get orders, but it’s not their merit. It’s random success, which stop soon, when fiverr algorithm will go to new circle. Do they became better as professonals? I don’t think so.

Do buyers recieve the best services they can for their money? Again, i don’t think so. Randomizer don’t let them to find the real talent, that deserved to be find.

And fiverr can’t say: this guy do this thing better than all people on earth. It’s our guy from ourmarketplace, he is a real master, he is great talent. There is 1500000 orders in queue prepaid. He is so good, that buyers are ready to wait for months to work with him. LOL.

I’m not a talent, i’m just average seller, but i want to see on first page many talents of my niche to say: WOW, HOW DID HE DO IT, WORKS OF THIS GUY ARE F*CKIN AMAZING. And compete him with hard working. Instead of that there are multiple numbers of newbies on first pages. Because all are equal. But they are don’t. Everybody knows it. Messi is not equal to the guy, that bought the ball yesterday for the first time. Rock band with 20 years of touring is not equal to the band that nobody heard of. Developer that works for big company for years can’t be equal to junior developer. We are not equal as professionals and never will be. It’s an absurd. But anyway it’s sad reality of fiverr’s search.

BTW Is there any options to show to the world new sellers without this idea of economic equality and destroyment of search algorithms? Yes, of course. But it’s different story.

I don’t think Fiverr treats all sellers/gigs equally in the search results (it can’t be totally random). eg. searching for “logo” seems to always currently show around 4 studio gigs and 4 rising talent gigs on the first page of results. It also often shows a “Fiverr’s Choice” gig on the first page The rising talent and Fiverr’s Choice gigs are ones they’re definitely promoting over others.

When I last searched they showed 4 Pro gigs on the first page. Since there are a low percentage of Pro gigs (only around 0.03420% of logo gigs are pro verified), the chances of 4 Pro gigs being shown continuously on the first page by chance alone has got to be very low when there’s about 163,673 logo gigs.

So they must be promoting some gigs over others (eg. Pro, Fiverr’s choice, rising talent, studio gigs).

[giulia_f]

At the end of April and the beginning of March, my gig started really taking off. I was getting 1-2 orders a day instead of 1-2 a week or even a month. I foresaw it getting too busy (I’m a proofreader so I can only do so much), so I put my gig on a 3 order limit. It hit that limit for a day, then went below again, although I haven’t had an empty queue since. Now, here is where the oddness comes in. From the moment the order limit activated, I haven’t had a single message, a single order (by someone who isn’t a repeat buyer), and all my activity has dropped like a rock. This is very strange to me, because it was picking up so incredibly quickly the two weeks before. It’s around the time the analytics disappeared, though that might be unrelated.

Is this a thing that happened due to the order limit I put in place? Does my gig need to hit 0 orders for it to be “reactivated”? I ended up turning the limit off, but still, not a single word for the past month. Thankfully, I can survive on my repeat buyers, but this is very unnerving to someone who’s only been on this platform since January.

I have never used the search algorithm much to look at my own gigs, so sadly I can’t say much about that, but I assume my gig disappeared from that as well.

Something similar happened to me.

Since I’ve activated the order limit, my sales have dropped.

My Gig was doing well before, but right now I’m only getting orders from my repeat buyers.

I’m not sure, though… whether this is related or not to the order limit.

Hopefully, we will get some new orders soon 🙂

[miles_graphics]

First, I’m kinda surprised you guys are just complaining because this whole last page, gig rotation thing is so discouraging as a seller

My experience is quite frustrating and bad,

November last year, I got my level one badge (Nov 15), still new to the whole ranking and promotion system so I decided to add 2 more gig extras to my gig as a benefit of the new badge… 16 hours later, I can’t find my gig but decided to see how it goes before making any complaint…

3 more days, search for all my gigs and realized they we’re moved back to last page… Now the interesting part is HOW DID 1 GIG EDIT AFFECT THE WHOLE GIGS ON MY ACCOUNT? LIKE HOW… without having any bad analytics or cancelling order or negative reviews…

Messaged customer support, asked what’s going on with my account… they said everything was perfectly fine… I have tried to make gig changes like editing the tags and all but it’s not helping

This April, I bought a Fiverr course and within 7 days after getting the badge… my gig ranked I was getting orders for 5 days straight and I don’t want to miss any opportunities this time so I was delivering them on time (all 5 stars) no cancellation, I was even getting tips… just 5 days later … Back to last page

So for the past 7 months, all my gig were just there rotating in the last page…

And I can spot several gigs with low ratings compared to mine on the first page of my gig search… So to me THE ALGORITHM SUCKS…

but I don’t think any Fiverr staff cares regardless of what the poll count is

Exactly, I’m tired of all this

[solomon1a]

Same issue, 2 years i was on the top, even was staying in top 10, but since this May i am facing this weird issue which is not Normal. I contacted Fiverr and they said everything is ok. I was like maybe it is only happened to me, i posted a topic but no use of it then i noticed that it is not only me but there are lot of sellers who are stuck in this situation.

Two days ago, i see my gig again on the top and looks normal in search but today gig is vanished from search again lol. So no idea what kind of algorithm is that.

[sarikaverma007]

Same issue, 2 years i was on the top, even was staying in top 10, but since this May i am facing this weird issue which is not Normal. I contacted Fiverr and they said everything is ok. I was like maybe it is only happened to me, i posted a topic but no use of it then i noticed that it is not only me but there are lot of sellers who are stuck in this situation.

Two days ago, i see my gig again on the top and looks normal in search but today gig is vanished from search again lol. So no idea what kind of algorithm is that.

yeap even i am delivering orders and getting 5* reviews even i convert 2 buyers from facebook via fiverr they create a fresh account but still my gigs are on last page i try video also

[hamza1424]

yeap even i am delivering orders and getting 5* reviews even i convert 2 buyers from facebook via fiverr they create a fresh account but still my gigs are on last page i try video also

Hello, Same here. Even my gigs is on last page I don’t know how but buyer text me and we worked together. And I received 5 Star. Now I am curious to know how he was able to find be among thousand other sellers even I am on last page.

[insects44]

Hey all, the solution is here as promised:

I recently noticed this “bug”: Top sellers from the first page get thrown to the last page and then forgotten forever. If you came here to learn why and how to fix that, you’ve come to the right place. However, this may take a lot of effort from your side, so, get ready! Before I show you the steps to fix your gig’s position in the search, I wanna explain how the search algorithm works and why so many people are confused about it. Why am I getting demoted?The search algorithm is NO…

[sarikaverma007]

Hey all, the solution is here as promised:

I recently noticed this “bug”: Top sellers from the first page get thrown to the last page and then forgotten forever. If you came here to learn why and how to fix that, you’ve come to the right place. However, this may take a lot of effort from your side, so, get ready! Before I show you the steps to fix your gig’s position in the search, I wanna explain how the search algorithm works and why so many people are confused about it. Why am I getting demoted?The search algorithm is NO…

Please explain we all want to know what to do

[insects44]

Please explain we all want to know what to do

I explained, just read.

[gamunu]

Please read it carefully or don’t read it all. I hope nobody will be offended by this.

Sorry for my poor english.

I will try to explain fiverr search, and why i call it randomizer, from political point of view and left political agenda, which tells that everyone are equal or should be equal. It doesn’t mean that i try to involve here any controversial topics such as gender, race, nationality and etc. I don’t mean that at all. I respect each other and want you to do that too.

All i want to say: fiverr algorithm was written like: top rated sellers are equal to newbies, sellers with bad ratings are equal to seller with good ratings, gigs with seo are equal to gigs without seo and so on. That’s why gigs are always rotating in random way. A kind of socialism where everyone is equal and noone can become a champion in this race. All can be on the first page for little period.

But is this system good for any market or any participant? No, in my opinion, it’s compeletly wrong.

Is such a system beneficial to at least for someone, pro sellers, new sellers, buyers, fiverr itself? I don’t think so.

Is professional, that has many reviews and know his job, equal to someone with 0 reviews? Of course they are not. But fiverr says - yes, they are completely equal. What does this lead to?

Sellers that work hard and provide good services for years don’t see the great increase of their profits, should fight on forum and with CS.

New sellers do not have role motivational models. They don’t compete, they don’t looking for new niches and etc. They suddenly start to get orders, but it’s not their merit. It’s random success, which stop soon, when fiverr algorithm will go to new circle. Do they became better as professonals? I don’t think so.

Do buyers recieve the best services they can for their money? Again, i don’t think so. Randomizer don’t let them to find the real talent, that deserved to be find.

And fiverr can’t say: this guy do this thing better than all people on earth. It’s our guy from ourmarketplace, he is a real master, he is great talent. There is 1500000 orders in queue prepaid. He is so good, that buyers are ready to wait for months to work with him. LOL.

I’m not a talent, i’m just average seller, but i want to see on first page many talents of my niche to say: WOW, HOW DID HE DO IT, WORKS OF THIS GUY ARE F*CKIN AMAZING. And compete him with hard working. Instead of that there are multiple numbers of newbies on first pages. Because all are equal. But they are don’t. Everybody knows it. Messi is not equal to the guy, that bought the ball yesterday for the first time. Rock band with 20 years of touring is not equal to the band that nobody heard of. Developer that works for big company for years can’t be equal to junior developer. We are not equal as professionals and never will be. It’s an absurd. But anyway it’s sad reality of fiverr’s search.

BTW Is there any options to show to the world new sellers without this idea of economic equality and destroyment of search algorithms? Yes, of course. But it’s different story.

Last part is my favorite I know a guy who never cares about his ranking, a position. he works here since 2015 and buyers are waiting for him even after a month

He traveled all over the world, but soon as he starts his service, no one can stop him.

my suggestion is to try to build a community around you. Tell your friends you sell services on Fiverr. Contact people who start a business show your talents. Remember, don’t depend on Fiverr.

Share your service with social media. If you’re a designer show off your latent learn new skills. try to promote your service locally attract more buyer

then Fiverr will be realized you’re the one

trust me on that day no one can stop you

[uksubtitles]

Maybe people who are on the first page for several years need to realize that, that is what Fiverr is maybe trying to change. It doesn’t seem fair that only a handful of people get all the orders because of rank position. When there are others who offer a similar service or maybe better that don’t get customers.
I for one am in favor of the new system I think it’s fair and gives everyone a chance.

[donnovan86]

Maybe people who are on the first page for several years need to realize that, that is what Fiverr is maybe trying to change. It doesn’t seem fair that only a handful of people get all the orders because of rank position. When there are others who offer a similar service or maybe better that don’t get customers.

I for one am in favor of the new system I think it’s fair and gives everyone a chance.

What you don’t realize is those people that have lots of sales clearly showed they are offering quality services. However, a lot of new people just come here for a quick buck, get a few orders and then they stop their gigs or don’t really do this consistently. Removing older users from search when they fought hard to be there is obviously not the right thing to do. They already monitor performance and remove you anyway if you are not up to the Fiverr standards, regardless of the account age. But letting only new people on the best selling page when they clearly don’t generate a good income for the site is not really the right thing to do.

[uksubtitles]

What you don’t realize is those people that have lots of sales clearly showed they are offering quality services. However, a lot of new people just come here for a quick buck, get a few orders and then they stop their gigs or don’t really do this consistently. Removing older users from search when they fought hard to be there is obviously not the right thing to do. They already monitor performance and remove you anyway if you are not up to the Fiverr standards, regardless of the account age. But letting only new people on the best selling page when they clearly don’t generate a good income for the site is not really the right thing to do.

@donnovan86 I understand what you are saying, but there many also that give up on Fiverr because they get no orders, who would be capable of providing a good service and make a lot of money. Maybe Fiverr is trying to help those people. Also, someone who is really busy can drop their standards if they rush orders and rotation of rankings is a good solution for that. People who have been on the site and doing well should in theory not be affected as they should have recurring customers anyway. But I guess this just shows how important ranking can be for a business.

[donnovan86]

@donnovan86 I understand what you are saying, but there many also that give up on Fiverr because they get no orders, who would be capable of providing a good service and make a lot of money. Maybe Fiverr is trying to help those people. Also, someone who is really busy can drop their standards if they rush orders and rotation of rankings is a good solution for that. People who have been on the site and doing well should in theory not be affected as they should have recurring customers anyway. But I guess this just shows how important ranking can be for a business.

someone who is really busy can drop their standards if they rush orders and rotation of rankings is a good solution for that.

Fiverr already drops you from search or de-ranks you if you have cancellations or bad reviews, that’s valid for everyone.

And I wouldn’t bet on recurring customers. Some people come a year or two after they made an order, others buy once a few months, so relying only on recurring customers is not the way to make a living here.

Unfortunately in the past few months due to the pandemic a lot of low quality gigs emerged, and now everyone has issues with their gig ranking. Even for me, all my gigs right now are not in search at all. But it happens, and I am sure they will get back in a few days or so even if I am on the first page for at least 2 of them. Now they are nowhere to be seen. And obviously other, newer people enjoy the spotlight.

[hassannawaz0303]

I absolutely appreciate this post. Many sellers including myself are facing the same algorithm problem . I think the customer service should take notice of this problem and get it fixed asap.Moreover the poll describes that it as actually a problem faced by many here. Reaching out to the customer service might be a considerable idea.

[hamza1424]

I absolutely appreciate this post. Many sellers including myself are facing the same algorithm problem . I think the customer service should take notice of this problem and get it fixed asap.Moreover the poll describes that it as actually a problem faced by many here. Reaching out to the customer service might be a considerable idea.

Reaching out to the customer service might be a considerable idea.

Many seller have already tried this including me, But it didn’t help. They are just sending template to everyone.

[sarikaverma007]

Reaching out to the customer service might be a considerable idea.

Many seller have already tried this including me, But it didn’t help. They are just sending template to everyone.

Many seller have already tried this including me, But it didn’t help. They are just sending template to everyone.

I am in contact with CS from last 2 days and they send me same template but i ask them questions again and again hope they can understand

[wp_kid]

This is a long topic and thread. There are a lot of things you could disagree for. If you notice something which is not correct, tag me and tell me what needs to be corrected.

 

 

I recently noticed this “bug”: Top sellers from the first page get thrown to the last page and then forgotten forever. If you came here to learn why and how I fixed it, you’ve come to the right place. However, this may take a lot of effort from your side, so, get ready!

Before I show you the steps to fix your …