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Buyer's Request: 39 Offers, Should you bid ❓


gina_riley2

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  • Are you a professional who just started on 5r?

  • Are you frustrated that there are already 39 bids in less than 5 minutes?

  • Are you wondering if it’s worth it to bid?

YES, it is.

  • What are the chances the buyer will read the 40th bid?

Very High!!

I’ve found several great seller in buyers request. Unfortunately, it’s a hit or miss

As a long time buyer on this site, about 75% of the time I find zero qualified sellers on BR. Sometimes, I get as many as 65 bids (or more).

I can go through 60 offers in about 10 minutes and disqualify all of them. If you’re wondering how, see below.

This request was simple, no research required. Typically, my articles can be a bit complex, requiring some research; therefore, I automatically, remove all $5 or even $10 offers.

No professional writer who actually read my request would bid that little.

This one, however, could have had a few who were interested in getting a good review on the 1st order, so I gave them the benefit.

I eliminated all of them and hired NO ONE in less than 5 minutes. If you were a coherent, decent writer, you would have stood out.

On top of that I was hiring 10 sellers, not just 1. I realized, after the fact, that may not have been clear. Regardless of that, take a look for yourself on the bids and tell me, would you hire any of these bidders?

I marked up a few but left the rest for you.

P.S.: Unlimited Revisions just annoys me. If you’re incapable of getting it right after one revision, I don’t want to waste my time.

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Oh scary, But it doesn’t surprise me.

A Q for you: What Budget did you put on this BR?

Mostly I see stated budgets of $5-$15 for music work that should be at least half way through the hundreds. I only post music gigs here. I have some writing up on another work site but have basically abandoned that as any time anyone asks it is click-bait work for injurious rates.

In both places, 99.99% of the time my unique, relevant, studied responses go ignored or at best get a “client” response like “but what’s you rate?” with no answer to any of the questions that would help me price their job. The same logic applies here.

When I tried talking about that here I got hit with TLDR, your fault.

So you see that kinda sees us in a bind. Why not just post formulaic garbage responses as the odds of landing a gig are the same.

I wish clients would research Sellers and reach out personally with unique, relevant, studied enquiries…

🙂

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Hi Gina! I didn’t see one worth hiring. There were a couple which used correct grammar but the phrasing did not inspire confidence.

There were so many where the writer had no knowledge of the most elementary rules of grammar. These are things I learned at the age of seven or eight.

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Hi Gina! I didn’t see one worth hiring. There were a couple which used correct grammar but the phrasing did not inspire confidence.

There were so many where the writer had no knowledge of the most elementary rules of grammar. These are things I learned at the age of seven or eight.

Just in a short defense: For a lot of us English is our second language. This doesn’t justify trying to offer writing services if you haven’t mastered the language though 😅

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Just in a short defense: For a lot of us English is our second language. This doesn’t justify trying to offer writing services if you haven’t mastered the language though 😅

I know of several excellent writers on fiverr who have English as a second language who don’t mangle the grammar.

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I think if you want a super professional writer the search option & discuss it with them in private chat. I think, professional sellers, don’t usually use buyer request so much ( this is just my thought though ) :man_shrugging:

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Did you catch up with the one with the negotiable 5K pricetag?
I’d love to know if we have a literature Nobel prize winner offering writing gigs here, or the seller thought they were sending the offer in their local currency, or if that’s a kind of “maybe the buyer has bad eyes and will think this is a US$5 offer and just click, and I’ll get to keep the 5K because support won’t cancel this, once the buyer with now maxed-out credit card will notice their error” scam …

What a great post to show that it can make sense to not forego replying to BRs that already got a bunch of offers.

(Although that highly depends on the person behind the BR, as there are incapable buyers as well as incapable sellers; there is strong evidence that quite a few buyers must generally be taking either the first worst or cheapest offer they get ;))

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On 5/28/2020 at 7:48 AM, misscrystal said:

Hi Gina! I didn’t see one worth hiring. There were a couple which used correct grammar but the phrasing did not inspire confidence.

There were so many where the writer had no knowledge of the most elementary rules of grammar. These are things I learned at the age of seven or eight.

And it took probably less than 5 to make that determination, I’m guessing. 😀There was one that had a possibility but once I looked at her gigs I changed my mind.

It always boggles my mind at how people throw “expert” around without truly knowing the meaning.

On 5/28/2020 at 7:54 AM, miiila said:

Did you catch up with the one with the negotiable 5K pricetag?

I’d love to know if we have a literature Nobel prize winner offering writing gigs here, or the seller thought they were sending the offer in their local currency, or if that’s a kind of “maybe the buyer has bad eyes and will think this is a US$5 offer and just click, and I’ll get to keep the 5K because support won’t cancel this, once the buyer with now maxed-out credit card will notice their error” scam …

What a great post to show that it can make sense to not forego replying to BRs that already got a bunch of offers.

(Although that highly depends on the person behind the BR, as there are incapable buyers as well as incapable sellers; there is strong evidence that quite a few buyers must generally be taking either the first worst or cheapest offer they get ;))

Hey Mila, How are ya?

No, I did not contact the $5000.00 seller. 😆

I don’t like to negotiate, and even if I did, at $10 per word, at best 50% is still $5 per word. I’m not sure what that person was thinking. 😒 At that pricetag, you’d think I’d have gotten more than a generic canned bid. 😒😒

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On 5/28/2020 at 8:07 AM, gina_riley2 said:

Hey Mila, How are ya?

No, I did not contact the $5000.00 seller. 😆

I don’t like to negotiate, and even if I did, at $10 per word, at best 50% is still $5 per word. I’m not sure what that person was thinking. 😒 At that pricetag, you’d think I’d have gotten more than a generic canned bid. 😒😒

True, that. They could have written their offer in iambic pentameter, or sent an appetizer in form of a limerick about their dog at least :wink:

Thank you, I’m okay, hope you’re doing great 🙂 

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Oh scary, But it doesn’t surprise me.

A Q for you: What Budget did you put on this BR?

Mostly I see stated budgets of $5-$15 for music work that should be at least half way through the hundreds. I only post music gigs here. I have some writing up on another work site but have basically abandoned that as any time anyone asks it is click-bait work for injurious rates.

In both places, 99.99% of the time my unique, relevant, studied responses go ignored or at best get a “client” response like “but what’s you rate?” with no answer to any of the questions that would help me price their job. The same logic applies here.

When I tried talking about that here I got hit with TLDR, your fault.

So you see that kinda sees us in a bind. Why not just post formulaic garbage responses as the odds of landing a gig are the same.

I wish clients would research Sellers and reach out personally with unique, relevant, studied enquiries…

🙂

A Q for you: What Budget did you put on this BR?

I left it open.

An example of a bid, quite easy and 2 minutes to write.

"Hi Gina,

I have a 2 year old German Shepherd named Marla, who is the love of my life. As an animal lover, I’ve had many pets growing up . . . . I can write you more than one article as I’ve had xx dogs, each with their own unique personality and . . . I will write one article for $30, two or more for $20 each. Feel free to contact me."

Budget: $30

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On 5/28/2020 at 1:36 PM, gina_riley2 said:

No, I did not contact the $5000.00 seller. 😆

I don’t like to negotiate, and even if I did, at $10 per word, at best 50% is still $5 per word. I’m not sure what that person was thinking. 😒 At that pricetag, you’d think I’d have gotten more than a generic canned bid. 😒😒

It might not have been an actual price the buyer was asking (place holder?) ie. the real price might have been nothing like the $5000. It just might have meant the buyer meant have wanted to negotiate or maybe ask for more details. 

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Thanks for sharing your experience with the buyer request section. I use the section whenever I have no new orders or returning buyers. I always take my time to craft a request that addresses the buyer’s needs, but most never respond. I guess they give up after receiving poorly done ones. However, after going through all of your screen shots, I am encouraged to send more requests. I think the trick is to squeeze in a well crafted request, before the potential buyer is flooded with ones from sellers who shoot at random.

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On 5/28/2020 at 3:44 PM, uk1000 said:

an actual price the buyer was asking

I am the buyer. I left price blank

On 5/28/2020 at 3:44 PM, uk1000 said:

meant the buyer meant have wanted to negotiate

I never indicated that I wanted to negotiate price. $5000 is rather high for a 500 word article, even for huge corporation.

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On 5/28/2020 at 3:59 PM, gina_riley2 said:

I am the buyer. I left price blank

I never indicated that I wanted to negotiate price.

$5000 is rather high for a 500 word article, even for huge corporation.

Sorry I meant seller. A seller can’t leave a price blank to negotiate or ask questions (eg. if a request is unclear) so they might put the max price there just so something is there and so the buyer is unlikely to order directly without contacting them first. I agree they should have put a price that was more realistic. 

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I wasn't the first

I was 29th to reply a buyer request

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This post is meant for two types of sellers out there on fiverr

1. to the “good sellers” who always take time to read a buyer request, understand what they are asking,and then reply back to them only if they are capable of doing that job.
You have good news brothers, this is the proof that ,being the first reply has nothing more than being the best reply. Keep up the good work buddies.

2. to the “brainless sellers” who use precast replies,
“Oh sure ,I can do that ,Iam the best ,boost is the secret of my energy,east or west reply must…”

See for yourself, nobody is going to reply
Kindly stop the madness, try to understand the buyer’s needs.
Never accept any job if you can’t handle.
The more you reply to strange jobs
The more they will appear in your requests
What you are good at ,should be what you offer.

Hope you all got my point.

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Good for you. When I have used Buyer Requests I have heard the same thing many times.

Also, I always quote my actual prices. I do not quote higher just because the buyer’s budget is higher. I also never bid lower because the buyer’s budget is less. 

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I just came back to thank you for this thread. I strongly believe it helped me to lend my very first order.
Seeing how ridiculous responses on buyer’s requests can be, allowed me not to lose hope and keep replying to them, even when there already were hundreds of other replies. I was about 150th to reply to the request I ended up getting.
I would never reply with some generic nonsense without addressing buyer’s requirements anyway, that’s just basic human integrity and professional ethics, but I would have gave up very soon if not for your thread.

Thank you so much for providing this insight into buyer’s experience. You are now partially responsible for kicking off my fiverr career 😄

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On 6/2/2020 at 6:43 AM, alyonagrapie said:

I just came back to thank you for this thread. I strongly believe it helped me to lend my very first order.

Seeing how ridiculous responses on buyer’s requests can be, allowed me not to lose hope and keep replying to them, even when there already were hundreds of other replies. I was about 150th to reply to the request I ended up getting.

I would never reply with some generic nonsense without addressing buyer’s requirements anyway, that’s just basic human integrity and professional ethics, but I would have gave up very soon if not for your thread.

Thank you so much for providing this insight into buyer’s experience. You are now partially responsible for kicking off my fiverr career 😄 .

My very best for a successful freelancing career, where ever it may be. 🧡 

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Most of the new sellers try to get their first order and they’re desperate for that may be that’s the reason for those many offers being useless for you and sometimes the amount you put in request also makes the level 2 or top rated sellers think if they should put a bid or not.

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This is such a great thread, @gina_riley2

I live on a farm and at the moment we have a gang of five dogs, each with its own personality. My favorite is Jacob One-Eye (There’s one blog for you just about his the origin of his name). He is a small, black, pavement special and he absolutely loves riding at the back of my husband’s truck.

I see this is an old thread actually - but I would love to hear the outcome. Did you find someone for your dog blogs in the end?

Regards

Helena

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