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I just don’t understand why people get mad with Best Sellers. If these people were also the best sellers, would they get happy for getting their gig placed in the pages behind?

It’s so beautiful “getting a place in the sun”, but what these did users to get this? Except asking for, and waiting for fiverr algorithm “give” this?

I bet that anyone can’t find more features that benefits more best sellers than new and discrete buyers:

BENEFITS FOR NEW BUYERS:

  1. Reducing total reviews to 1k (instead showing it’s total).
  2. Gigs rotation (so dont fix 1 gig on top).
  3. Available now.
  4. RELEVANCE/RECOMMENDED and NEWEST ARRIVAL filters.
  5. TODAY, Best Selling filter too (at gigs category ranking).
  6. Rising talent badges.
  7. buyers request page.

BENEFITS FOR BEST SELLERS:

  1. ?

Speaking of best seller, I don’t see any special treatment in terms of sales and ranking / marketing for TRS too.

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Do you think it would be better to have only those who have sold over 1000 times on the first page?

No. Should be the first page like it always was. Those who performs better in a certain period. I faced people from 100 to 50K reviews. But no placement was given. Placement was earned. This is the only way to prove if you are good or not. Because right now, those on top MAY be good, MAY be not.

Should the whole site be listed in order of number reviews with the highest at the top?

Of course not. Only the best Selling for best sellers. All the rest is already being done to promote new and discrete gigs, such as:

  1. Reducing total reviews to 1k (instead showing it’s total).
  2. Gigs rotation (so dont fix 1 gig on top).
  3. Available now.
  4. RELEVANCE/RECOMMENDED and NEWEST ARRIVAL filters.
  5. Rising talent badges.
  6. buyers request page.
  7. I believe I’m forgetting something.

May I ask, @eoinfinnegan, after this ranking change (placing not best sellers on top), what best sellers have in marketplace to value their work? (Please dont mention PRO, because not every category has this).

Is it just the name that you don’t like? If they changed the filter to “ We think these will suit you ” and they just displayed a random mix of gigs by levels, number of reviews etc would that make you happy?

I like the name, what I really want is the best sellers FILTER (edit) do justice to its name. If they change their name, there is nothing I can do, but I don’t imagine a marketplace will succeed by hiding their best selling. Maybe when you sell products, which has a limited stock, but services hasn’t.

Are you upset because Fiverr is “manipulating” buyers or is it because they are not manipulating buyers in your favor?

I’m upset because fiverr is misleading/manipulating buyers (something they as to gigs not to do). I don’t want fiverr to manipulate buyer in my favor. I’m upset because the “prizes” of the hard work are given for someone else.

Perhaps it is time for you to learn to fish for yourself and let Fiverr give the fish to new sellers?

The recipe to fail. I also care with fiverr marketplace integrity and reputation. I dont mind helping sellers, if it’s fairly and professionally done.

Should be the first page like it always was. Those who performs better in a certain period

Only the best Selling for best sellers. All the rest is already being done to promote new and discrete gigs

what I really want is the best sellers FILTER (edit) do justice to its name

I’m upset because fiverr is misleading/manipulating buyers

The recipe to fail. I also care with fiverr marketplace integrity and reputation

Fair enough. I agree and think that the Best Selling Filter needs work (along with lots of other things). I presumed wrongly that you were simply looking for this to be changed to be in your favor and see now that you were seeking to get this done for the good of the platform and the “best sellers” in each category.

I also agree that there is a lot done for new sellers and very little obviously done to assist established sellers and have mentioned this quite often as well as offered specific advice posts to help established sellers, more than new sellers.


Now, just to respond to some statements above by other posters:

  • I am not a Fiverr fanboy who cheers on everything they do. I speak my mind and while that might be different to others’ opinions, that is still my prerogative to do. Staff have never told me that I need to act differently since becoming a Mod and so I don’t. I criticize when I see fit and give feedback and links to CS and staff, especially when I see hot topics or important discussions on the forum.
  • I don’t set out to “fight” as has been suggested, nor do I believe that what I say is particularly inflammatory or indeed, always right. I merely put forward my thoughts. If someone thinks I went too far somewhere then PM me. If someone disagrees with me, just reply and say why. This is called discussion and it is what the forum is for as far as I am aware.

PS. @xuntes - I suggest you do put this in the “Fiverr Site Suggestions” category and edit the title as @chrisdata said above. It will likely get more attention there and I believe that is the section which site developers check (along with Report a Bug) sometimes.

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Should be the first page like it always was. Those who performs better in a certain period

Only the best Selling for best sellers. All the rest is already being done to promote new and discrete gigs

what I really want is the best sellers FILTER (edit) do justice to its name

I’m upset because fiverr is misleading/manipulating buyers

The recipe to fail. I also care with fiverr marketplace integrity and reputation

Fair enough. I agree and think that the Best Selling Filter needs work (along with lots of other things). I presumed wrongly that you were simply looking for this to be changed to be in your favor and see now that you were seeking to get this done for the good of the platform and the “best sellers” in each category.

I also agree that there is a lot done for new sellers and very little obviously done to assist established sellers and have mentioned this quite often as well as offered specific advice posts to help established sellers, more than new sellers.


Now, just to respond to some statements above by other posters:

  • I am not a Fiverr fanboy who cheers on everything they do. I speak my mind and while that might be different to others’ opinions, that is still my prerogative to do. Staff have never told me that I need to act differently since becoming a Mod and so I don’t. I criticize when I see fit and give feedback and links to CS and staff, especially when I see hot topics or important discussions on the forum.
  • I don’t set out to “fight” as has been suggested, nor do I believe that what I say is particularly inflammatory or indeed, always right. I merely put forward my thoughts. If someone thinks I went too far somewhere then PM me. If someone disagrees with me, just reply and say why. This is called discussion and it is what the forum is for as far as I am aware.

PS. @xuntes - I suggest you do put this in the “Fiverr Site Suggestions” category and edit the title as @chrisdata said above. It will likely get more attention there and I believe that is the section which site developers check (along with Report a Bug) sometimes.

I dare to say I only saw one true fanboy on the forum and it’s 100% not you. Haha.

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When I click “best selling,” my gig is on the first row with a queue of 3. The others have a queue of 1, 2, or 0. One competitor had a queue of 5 but now he’s at 2, so he’s not on the first row.

I agree that the best selling categories should show the people with the biggest queues or most reviews or both, but I think the algorithm is capricious.

As I was reading through the lastest comments, this caught my eye. I haven’t read every post below it, so forgive me if I read more and edit it for some reason, but even if I do I’ll make it clear why.

I thought it was interesting that @xuntes is talking about the TITLE of the filter as “Best Selling” and why that means that the wrong people are being featured. That I thought about your (fastcopywriter) POV mentioning that perhaps it should be the people with the most reviews or the biggest queues. It all got me to thinking about the words “best seller” and what it could mean. Right now, of course, i don’t know what Fiverr uses to determine what a best seller is and they might be using some totally random criteria which wouldn’t really reflect best sellers.


If you skip most of my long post - just read this:

Even if we all agree that something looks wrong, though, who is to say what best seller means?

I looked this up about Amazon and it’s from an older article, but gives one viewpoint about best selling books:

"Typically in order to have a hope at becoming a Bestseller there needs to be a huge influx of sales within a very short period of time. We’re talking about 500-1,000 sales must occur in order to appear on Amazon’s Bestseller radar.

In other words, if you can bring in 1,000 sales of your book within the first few days following its release then you are on your way to making it part of Amazon’s Top 100 list.

If you’re really ambitious and your aim is to hit the list of Top 5, you’re going to have to be a lot more aggressive in getting higher sales numbers."

If we applied that to Fiverr, anyone with a new gig (like a new book) could shoot for the “best seller” list. An old gig (like an old book) could also keep retaining status by hitting a certain goal. The goal for Amazon as listed above was pretty basic - just bring in a high volume of sales in a short period of time.

So, if you were a level 0 seller who had been on Fiverr for a year without success, you could discover some great way to describe your gig and use tags or self-promote or spend ten thousand dollars on tv ads and let’s just say that you brought in 1000 sales in a single week on that gig. Let’s also say that you were planning for it and you hired help and you filled those orders. Let’s assume that the majority of buyers came in via external channels (like a TV ad) and knew little about Fiverr and didn’t leave you reviews. By those stats, you could actually BE a best seller on Fiverr in a week with 1000 sales but you could APPEAR to have only 10 reviews and be level 0 because you haven’t had time to hit an evaluation period.


I thought you might find this interesting enough to read @fastcopywriter. It’s more of an intellectual exercise than a real scenario overall, but you’re a very smart guy and you know about marketing, so you are aware that if a person wanted to leverage unseen factors to elevate themselves, they actually could.

That said, I’m not claiming that Fiverr uses this method to determine a best seller, but they might. I also think that if a seller could sustain this, they would eventually level up and get a lot of reviews and appear to be a hot commodity. However, it’s also possible for a seller to accomplish this best seller status on a small scale but then fail to maintain it and drop to obscurity. Even if that seller retained a level 2 badge (for example) and a thousand reviews it wouldn’t mean they could continue to sell high volume in short periods of time.

Fiverr could also use a number of other factors besides high volume in short times. They could use high dollar amounts, impressions based on views from off-Fiverr, sales over a month or year, etc. All of those could still produce a “best seller” without obvious extensive reviews. Fiverr might go in the reverse and rely on statistics like # of reviews only in the past 90 days or # of reviews over lifetime and those would be more apparent to the eye, but not as obvious as one might think.

Given the fact that “best seller” isn’t actually as simply defined as it might sound, I could still agree that Fiverr search appears to be screwy, but I couldn’t be sure that Fiverr wasn’t using statistics that aren’t apparent to me.

Sorry for another long-winded post, but I had never really given a lot of thought to all the ways a best-seller could be defined and I think it’s a valid point.

You wrote a very interesting post.

you’re a very smart guy and you know about marketing, so you are aware that if a person wanted to leverage unseen factors to elevate themselves, they actually could.

I appreciate the compliment, although I have no idea how to leverage unseen factors. I do know advertising is not a perfect science (or even a science) with predictable results. Why people buy this instead of that is a mystery. Even focus groups can’t tell us much because people react different in those groups than they do in the real world. Apple’s famous 1984 commercial was hated by the focus group, loved by the public. The film Gotti has 0% by the critics on Rotten Tomatoes, 54% by the general public. Calorie counts on menus have also failed to choose consumer behavior, only those people counting calories appreciate them, retailers are unhappy with the added expense.

They could use high dollar amounts, impressions based on views from off-Fiverr, sales over a month or year, etc.

That’s where it gets complicated. If Seller A makes one $1,000 sale a month, and Seller B makes 100 sales worth $1,000, which one is the best seller? Mathematically, they’re both equal sellers, because both achieved equal results. Of course, from a sales point of view, Seller B is better because he made 100 sales.

Furthermore, one thing we all seem to be forgetting is that RELEVANCE is more important than Best Selling.

If I search “cat,” the first results I’ll see are in relevance, so those sellers are more likely to get orders than the ones in Best Selling.

Only an industrious buyer will bother to click “Top Rated Seller” or choose “Best Selling.” Most buyers aren’t that industrious, they just want to search, click, buy.

Who knows what best seller means? Your explanation w

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I used to be a fiverr fanboy (a doer), when sellers were treated as a resource and not as tool. But this is the life of a freelancer, right?

I can’t mek sells this month so no prize sorry. LOL.

@eoinfinnegan to me is like Gandalf the White, only with the black beard IRL. Very wise and knew what he’s talking and sharing. I’m no sarcastic! About that particular true fanboy, he got his own fans here too, so beware. 🙂

I used to be a fiverr fanboy (a doer), when sellers were treated as a resource and not as tool.

Me too, and I defend fiverr agaist my wife, fanatic enough?

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Actually it’s our responsibility to complaints you know? It’s because we are part of fiverr platform, something they did great, I’m sure most of us will give compliment about it, but when they did something not right, why we can’t complaint?

Complaint is necessary in-order for a platform to listen and act. Imagine we all just leave it, they will just going to do whatever they wanted without even listen to our opinion. (like now)

We should use this forum and pin every fiverr true problem so they got a list to fix it, and tag those fiverr staff. Make sure at least they know the problem…

We gonna stick together if we care about the platform and hope it make improvements. fiver is kinda like youtube, and its creator is ‘complaining’, that’s how we ‘communicate’ with them, or else how?

Sorry if anyones saw this video I post, here I share again:

Assume change:

youtube > fiverr

creator > seller

video > gig

You get what I meant, unfornutaly we didnt have some big kids like MKBHD (the youtuber) like Casey Neistat who can find the CEO and make an AMA. 🙂

Complaint is necessary in-order for a platform to listen and act.

I love that.

fiver is kinda like youtube, and its creator is ‘complaining’, that’s how we ‘communicate’ with them, or else how?

Since YouTube has demonetized many popular channels, I hope Fiverr is nothing like YouTube.

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Should be the first page like it always was. Those who performs better in a certain period

Only the best Selling for best sellers. All the rest is already being done to promote new and discrete gigs

what I really want is the best sellers FILTER (edit) do justice to its name

I’m upset because fiverr is misleading/manipulating buyers

The recipe to fail. I also care with fiverr marketplace integrity and reputation

Fair enough. I agree and think that the Best Selling Filter needs work (along with lots of other things). I presumed wrongly that you were simply looking for this to be changed to be in your favor and see now that you were seeking to get this done for the good of the platform and the “best sellers” in each category.

I also agree that there is a lot done for new sellers and very little obviously done to assist established sellers and have mentioned this quite often as well as offered specific advice posts to help established sellers, more than new sellers.


Now, just to respond to some statements above by other posters:

  • I am not a Fiverr fanboy who cheers on everything they do. I speak my mind and while that might be different to others’ opinions, that is still my prerogative to do. Staff have never told me that I need to act differently since becoming a Mod and so I don’t. I criticize when I see fit and give feedback and links to CS and staff, especially when I see hot topics or important discussions on the forum.
  • I don’t set out to “fight” as has been suggested, nor do I believe that what I say is particularly inflammatory or indeed, always right. I merely put forward my thoughts. If someone thinks I went too far somewhere then PM me. If someone disagrees with me, just reply and say why. This is called discussion and it is what the forum is for as far as I am aware.

PS. @xuntes - I suggest you do put this in the “Fiverr Site Suggestions” category and edit the title as @chrisdata said above. It will likely get more attention there and I believe that is the section which site developers check (along with Report a Bug) sometimes.

PS. @xuntes - I suggest you do put this in the “Fiverr Site Suggestions” category and edit the title as @chrisdata said above. It will likely get more attention there and I believe that is the section which site developers check (along with Report a Bug) sometimes.

suggestion accepted 🙂

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PS. @xuntes - I suggest you do put this in the “Fiverr Site Suggestions” category and edit the title as @chrisdata said above. It will likely get more attention there and I believe that is the section which site developers check (along with Report a Bug) sometimes.

suggestion accepted 🙂

Oh, I think you should keep the ‘fiverr is lost!’ in-front of the new title, to get more attention.

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Complaint is necessary in-order for a platform to listen and act.

I love that.

fiver is kinda like youtube, and its creator is ‘complaining’, that’s how we ‘communicate’ with them, or else how?

Since YouTube has demonetized many popular channels, I hope Fiverr is nothing like YouTube.

Since YouTube has demonetized many popular channels, I hope Fiverr is nothing like YouTube.

I worry fiverr end up only keep the PRO, maybe 2 years later. Hope it won’t happen.

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Since YouTube has demonetized many popular channels, I hope Fiverr is nothing like YouTube.

I worry fiverr end up only keep the PRO, maybe 2 years later. Hope it won’t happen.

Yes i think it will be happen one or two year later they will keep only Pro seller …

But it some category there still have not Pro seller,

So they will be remain as standard …

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I can’t mek sells this month so no prize sorry. LOL.

@eoinfinnegan to me is like Gandalf the White, only with the black beard IRL. Very wise and knew what he’s talking and sharing. I’m no sarcastic! About that particular true fanboy, he got his own fans here too, so beware. 🙂

I used to be a fiverr fanboy (a doer), when sellers were treated as a resource and not as tool.

Me too, and I defend fiverr agaist my wife, fanatic enough?

Second time I have been compared to a wizard today…

I have a plan for dealing with Fiverr and the Best Selling filter problem:

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I can’t mek sells this month so no prize sorry. LOL.

@eoinfinnegan to me is like Gandalf the White, only with the black beard IRL. Very wise and knew what he’s talking and sharing. I’m no sarcastic! About that particular true fanboy, he got his own fans here too, so beware. 🙂

I used to be a fiverr fanboy (a doer), when sellers were treated as a resource and not as tool.

Me too, and I defend fiverr agaist my wife, fanatic enough?

About that particular true fanboy, he got his own fans here too, so beware. 🙂

Ooh, Ooh, can I take a guess? It’s Bob, right? Bob is the fanboy… right? Right? 🙂

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You wrote a very interesting post.

you’re a very smart guy and you know about marketing, so you are aware that if a person wanted to leverage unseen factors to elevate themselves, they actually could.

I appreciate the compliment, although I have no idea how to leverage unseen factors. I do know advertising is not a perfect science (or even a science) with predictable results. Why people buy this instead of that is a mystery. Even focus groups can’t tell us much because people react different in those groups than they do in the real world. Apple’s famous 1984 commercial was hated by the focus group, loved by the public. The film Gotti has 0% by the critics on Rotten Tomatoes, 54% by the general public. Calorie counts on menus have also failed to choose consumer behavior, only those people counting calories appreciate them, retailers are unhappy with the added expense.

They could use high dollar amounts, impressions based on views from off-Fiverr, sales over a month or year, etc.

That’s where it gets complicated. If Seller A makes one $1,000 sale a month, and Seller B makes 100 sales worth $1,000, which one is the best seller? Mathematically, they’re both equal sellers, because both achieved equal results. Of course, from a sales point of view, Seller B is better because he made 100 sales.

Furthermore, one thing we all seem to be forgetting is that RELEVANCE is more important than Best Selling.

If I search “cat,” the first results I’ll see are in relevance, so those sellers are more likely to get orders than the ones in Best Selling.

Only an industrious buyer will bother to click “Top Rated Seller” or choose “Best Selling.” Most buyers aren’t that industrious, they just want to search, click, buy.

Who knows what best seller means? Your explanation w

I appreciate the compliment, although I have no idea how to leverage unseen factors.

I don’t think any of us know exactly how it would realistically and persistently be done. What I think is that you know it could be done if someone knew or guessed a particular X factor.

Why people buy this instead of that is a mystery.

That has to be true. There is one Apple commercial playing constantly on Hulu now. It makes me want to hunt down Apple devices and smash them even though I like some of them. Other people love the commercial.

That’s where it gets complicated. If Seller A makes one $1,000 sale a month, and Seller B makes 100 sales worth $1,000, which one is the best seller? Mathematically, they’re both equal sellers, because both achieved equal results. Of course, from a sales point of view, Seller B is better because he made 100 sales.

This was my exact point and I’m glad you did see it. I think it’s overlooked a lot.

I’m not saying xuntes is wrong (or exactly right) and the filter does seem screwy on Fiverr. I’m saying that none of us know what X factors one site uses to determine the best-seller label.

RELEVANCE is more important than Best Selling.

If I search “cat,” the first results I’ll see are in relevance, so those sellers are more likely to get orders than the ones in Best Selling.

I agree with this and it’s worth understanding since frustrated sellers can use it. The filters should be fixed, but search keywords can still help all of us. I don’t want to go far off topic here, but anyone who is struggling with search results should consider this too.

Who knows what best seller means?

This matters. This topic can be highlighted in fluorescent and nailed to the staff coffeepot, but if they choose criteria for best sellers in a way that values A but not B or C, the great sellers who think B is best will still think Fiverr is lost and may lose visibility. Plan accordingly.

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Since YouTube has demonetized many popular channels, I hope Fiverr is nothing like YouTube.

I worry fiverr end up only keep the PRO, maybe 2 years later. Hope it won’t happen.

I worry fiverr end up only keep the PRO, maybe 2 years later. Hope it won’t happen.

That’s a terrifying thought, and it would kill Fiverr’s traffic. I hope they realize that it’s the “little sellers” that make the bulk of their income.

What I think is that you know it could be done if someone knew or guessed a particular X factor.

Right, we’re all looking for that X factor that will supercharge our sales.

The filters should be fixed, but search keywords can still help all of us.

I have great faith in them, but if my sales are slow, I will change a few of them, or most of them. Sometimes that brings new sales.

What Fiverr should fix is this. Sometimes I add a new keyword, then I search and I’m told that there are no results. If someone uses “red hot vacations” as a keyword, that keyword should deliver results.

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If someone does 2000 $5 logos, they get 2000 reviews - it means they provided logos worth around $5.

If someone does 100 $100 logos, they get 100 reviews - it means they provided logos worth around $100.

Rob Janoff has 3 reviews. He created the Apple logo and many other top brands. His price is $10k.

Which of these 3 sellers would I be more likely to buy from for my own business?

Well, I couldn’t afford Janoff, so I would likely go for the guy with 100 reviews and definitely wouldn’t go for the $5 one.

Yeah you’re right…

I forgot to mention that Fiverr combines a variety of factors that I presume are weighted in some kind of formula.

It combines factors of price, conversion rate, reviews, gig quality and more…but I think it favors higher prices gigs as well that also have a good conversion rate…because Fiverr makes more money on higher priced orders.

SO @xuntes IT’S NOT JUST BASED ON REVIEWS ON A GIG…IT’S MUCH MORE THAN THAT!

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Changes are part of every company! I also have almost 90% decrease in work which I never saw in last 1 year. However, we can’t blame Fiverr and tell them to not make changes. It is a part of business though we face problems now but in long run if we stick and work hard we might see better changes.

I would just say keep trying harder and use the brain to see what we can do to get better rank that is all we can do from our side.

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Yeah you’re right…

I forgot to mention that Fiverr combines a variety of factors that I presume are weighted in some kind of formula.

It combines factors of price, conversion rate, reviews, gig quality and more…but I think it favors higher prices gigs as well that also have a good conversion rate…because Fiverr makes more money on higher priced orders.

SO @xuntes IT’S NOT JUST BASED ON REVIEWS ON A GIG…IT’S MUCH MORE THAN THAT!

No, it’s not based on quality, because quality is subjective and fiverr cant quantify this. What is high quality for me, may not be to you.

Ratings aren’t the only factor, but are the most important and weighted one. There are as lot of factors which quantify a gig performance. Rating is just the best representation of this.

Also it’s doesnt favor higher prices. This was already discussed before and mentioned to fiverr team, but they states that it’s not a factor to evaluate gig performance.

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I worry fiverr end up only keep the PRO, maybe 2 years later. Hope it won’t happen.

That’s a terrifying thought, and it would kill Fiverr’s traffic. I hope they realize that it’s the “little sellers” that make the bulk of their income.

What I think is that you know it could be done if someone knew or guessed a particular X factor.

Right, we’re all looking for that X factor that will supercharge our sales.

The filters should be fixed, but search keywords can still help all of us.

I have great faith in them, but if my sales are slow, I will change a few of them, or most of them. Sometimes that brings new sales.

What Fiverr should fix is this. Sometimes I add a new keyword, then I search and I’m told that there are no results. If someone uses “red hot vacations” as a keyword, that keyword should deliver results.

The filters should be fixed, but search keywords can still help all of us.

I agree with you here. I mess with my keywords a lot, mainly in the title but also tags. I don’t do it unless that gig is slow. Sometimes I add a super clear tag to the title itself and Search still shows zero results. The last time it happened I edited it once a week for 3 weeks thinking it would hit the “trigger” but it didn’t. I finally wrote to Support and wrote the nicest and shortest explanation I could. They actually fixed it but mentioned that they might not always be able to fix those things. :roll_eyes:

it’s not based on quality, because quality is subjective and fiverr cant quantify this. What is high quality for me, may not be to you.

Since Fiverr does manually review some gigs, I’d say they do take some measurable things into consideration. For example, a high quality gig has a gig description that is written well enough to understand. I don’t think that means fluent English, but it means better than gibberish. If a gig looks like what Fiverr calls a “Nonsense gig” they will remove it from search or just delete it. That’s just one example, but it’s something staff have said they take into account for editorial focus. (One thing we know for sure is that if your gig isn’t in current editorial focus, Fiverr will just take it right out of search even if it’s still live.)

Also it’s doesnt favor higher prices. This was already discussed before and mentioned to fiverr team, but they states that it’s not a factor to evaluate gig performance.

I’m not sure when or where you saw this stated, but I’ve seen a staff member openly say something to the contrary in a public online conference. It was fairly recent, definitely way after the introduction of Pros. Price wasn’t the only factor by any means, but they were using all sorts of tools to incentivize buyers to purchase higher priced gigs. When I use search right now, gigs that are $10+ show up higher on the page for the most part. I will see a random $5 gig in the higher results too. There was a time that I saw $5 gigs emphasized, just like there was a time I would see gigs with cover videos emphasized. Those times have changed as far as I can see.

Your opinion is fair enough, I’m not hassling you about it, but I mildly disagree that ratings are as important as a more even mixture of factors including price and measurable types of quality.

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No, it’s not based on quality, because quality is subjective and fiverr cant quantify this. What is high quality for me, may not be to you.

Ratings aren’t the only factor, but are the most important and weighted one. There are as lot of factors which quantify a gig performance. Rating is just the best representation of this.

Also it’s doesnt favor higher prices. This was already discussed before and mentioned to fiverr team, but they states that it’s not a factor to evaluate gig performance.

This is interesting and I’ll correct myself partially. If I just click on the home page now while logged in, I actually do see more $5 gigs. However, if I search by a keyword at all or starting clicking any filter at all, it instantly seems to adjust in favor of higher prices.

My home page now (while logged in so there is bias) without searching - plenty of $5 gigs:

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My page when I used a single keyword to make search flip things around: (I delibereately uncovered the ones that were Pro to show how many of those were shown as well as which ones had “Rising Talent” badges)

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It sure looks to me like Fiverr does not emphasize price when I just go to fiverr.com (maybe to show me that there are cheap gigs out there) but it pushes higher priced ones fast as soon as I start digging. My filter was set to Relevance on the above search. If I change it to Best Selling I do happen to see a few more cheap gigs pop up. For me, all the top three rows under Best Selling do seem to be high-quality gigs (nice images, good titles) with some number of reviews, mixed price range leaning toward high and the delivery time leaning towards quick. Interesting stuff. I still agree that it could be a better range of gigs but it doesn’t look as bad as I thought it would.

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This is interesting and I’ll correct myself partially. If I just click on the home page now while logged in, I actually do see more $5 gigs. However, if I search by a keyword at all or starting clicking any filter at all, it instantly seems to adjust in favor of higher prices.

My home page now (while logged in so there is bias) without searching - plenty of $5 gigs:

My page when I used a single keyword to make search flip things around: (I delibereately uncovered the ones that were Pro to show how many of those were shown as well as which ones had “Rising Talent” badges)

It sure looks to me like Fiverr does not emphasize price when I just go to fiverr.com (maybe to show me that there are cheap gigs out there) but it pushes higher priced ones fast as soon as I start digging. My filter was set to Relevance on the above search. If I change it to Best Selling I do happen to see a few more cheap gigs pop up. For me, all the top three rows under Best Selling do seem to be high-quality gigs (nice images, good titles) with some number of reviews, mixed price range leaning toward high and the delivery time leaning towards quick. Interesting stuff. I still agree that it could be a better range of gigs but it doesn’t look as bad as I thought it would.

It sure looks to me like Fiverr does not emphasize price when I just go to fiverr.com (maybe to show me that there are cheap gigs out there) but it pushes higher priced ones fast as soon as I start digging

The thing is, this could be for many reasons too. For example, higher priced gigs (for the most part) are offered by sellers who aim for higher quality or “bigger” jobs. It would make sense that if someone is going for that, then they would have spent the time to ensure their gig was optimized for their targeted keywords for example.

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It sure looks to me like Fiverr does not emphasize price when I just go to fiverr.com (maybe to show me that there are cheap gigs out there) but it pushes higher priced ones fast as soon as I start digging

The thing is, this could be for many reasons too. For example, higher priced gigs (for the most part) are offered by sellers who aim for higher quality or “bigger” jobs. It would make sense that if someone is going for that, then they would have spent the time to ensure their gig was optimized for their targeted keywords for example.

higher priced gigs (for the most part) are offered by sellers who aim for higher quality or “bigger” jobs. It would make sense that if someone is going for that, then they would have spent the time to ensure their gig was optimized

That could be true and might not be related to search ranking by price.

Fiverr combines a variety of factors that I presume are weighted in some kind of formula.

It combines factors of price, conversion rate, reviews, gig quality and more…

I was thinking of this quote and the reply that said:

There are as lot of factors which quantify a gig performance. Rating is just the best representation of this.

Also it’s doesnt favor higher prices.

I still think that if a group of staff was assigned to pick out a group of gigs by “performance” it’s highly possible that higher prices would help a gig make the cut.

I am also pretty sure I’ve seen some live discussion where a staff member hinted that gigs with moderate+ starter prices were desirable. My search results seem to back that, but I agree that could be a false positive.

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higher priced gigs (for the most part) are offered by sellers who aim for higher quality or “bigger” jobs. It would make sense that if someone is going for that, then they would have spent the time to ensure their gig was optimized

That could be true and might not be related to search ranking by price.

Fiverr combines a variety of factors that I presume are weighted in some kind of formula.

It combines factors of price, conversion rate, reviews, gig quality and more…

I was thinking of this quote and the reply that said:

There are as lot of factors which quantify a gig performance. Rating is just the best representation of this.

Also it’s doesnt favor higher prices.

I still think that if a group of staff was assigned to pick out a group of gigs by “performance” it’s highly possible that higher prices would help a gig make the cut.

I am also pretty sure I’ve seen some live discussion where a staff member hinted that gigs with moderate+ starter prices were desirable. My search results seem to back that, but I agree that could be a false positive.

IMO, gig price or rather, Average Gig Selling Price is a big factor in ranking.

Fiverr would be stupid not to make it that way.

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