Attention please - Is Fiverr busy in promoting Pro Sellers?

[cyaxrex]

For what it’s worth I too am against Fiverr’s efforts to “level the playing field”.

But I still believe that my Pro gig is NOT in direct competition with anyone else with a regular gig.

The price point and offering is so different, if anything I make cheap gigs look a lot more appealing to prospects.

So, yes, setting a cap to the reviews on our gigs sucks but on the other hand I don’t think the conpetition between pro and non-pro sellers is what you think it is.

The price point and offering is so different, if anything I make cheap gigs look a lot more appealing to prospects.

The point is, if the Fiverr search was like someone planning a city, the way things currently work would be the same as Starbucks being given a licence to operate smack bag in the city center and every other coffee shop entrepreneur being told: “You can only sell coffee from this cart and every day, we will decide where you can put this cart. Today you might be allowed to sell coffee next door to Starbucks. Tomorrow, we might move you to Skid Row.”

[frank_d]

The price point and offering is so different, if anything I make cheap gigs look a lot more appealing to prospects.

The point is, if the Fiverr search was like someone planning a city, the way things currently work would be the same as Starbucks being given a licence to operate smack bag in the city center and every other coffee shop entrepreneur being told: “You can only sell coffee from this cart and every day, we will decide where you can put this cart. Today you might be allowed to sell coffee next door to Starbucks. Tomorrow, we might move you to Skid Row.”

We are all subject to Fiverr’s algorithm changes.

My ae template editing gig left page one and went on page 20 in one night last year.

I still see people with illegal vh templates ahead of me in the promotional videos subcategory.

Also: People who turn off “show pro sellers first” still get the same results as everyone else.

[Guest uxreview]

We are all subject to Fiverr’s algorithm changes.

My ae template editing gig left page one and went on page 20 in one night last year.

I still see people with illegal vh templates ahead of me in the promotional videos subcategory.

Also: People who turn off “show pro sellers first” still get the same results as everyone else.

People who turn off “show pro sellers first” still get the same results as everyone else.

True, but as a new seller why would I flip the switch. I want PROs to handle my project 🙂

Also PROs have quite a few advantages that regulars don’t.

• Custom portfolio for example. Why not level the playing field and give it to everyone to showcase their work.
• Higher price ranges. I’ve maxed out my gigs to $995. I would like to raise them but I can’t. I can make custom offers, but 2 of my last clients ordered without talking to me.

What I’m trying to say is that if Fiverr is trying to put us on the same level then why not give us the same tools. What’s wrong with giving us higher limits especially if they see that most of my clients nowadays order my premium gig. Or why not give me the opportunity to really showcase my work 🙂

[cyaxrex]

People who turn off “show pro sellers first” still get the same results as everyone else.

True, but as a new seller why would I flip the switch. I want PROs to handle my project 🙂

Also PROs have quite a few advantages that regulars don’t.

• Custom portfolio for example. Why not level the playing field and give it to everyone to showcase their work.
• Higher price ranges. I’ve maxed out my gigs to $995. I would like to raise them but I can’t. I can make custom offers, but 2 of my last clients ordered without talking to me.

What I’m trying to say is that if Fiverr is trying to put us on the same level then why not give us the same tools. What’s wrong with giving us higher limits especially if they see that most of my clients nowadays order my premium gig. Or why not give me the opportunity to really showcase my work 🙂

Custom portfolio for example. Why not level the playing field and give it to everyone to showcase their work.

Fiverr will never allow all sellers to have custom portfolios. It would just make buyers confused regarding why X seller charges $100 and Mr. Pro charges $1,500 for the exact same thing.

In fact… This might be why Fiverr is ordering the search as Pros - New Sellers - Then other sellers with loads of reviews and high-quality live portfolios last. There simply has to be seen to be a difference between the quality being offered.

[frank_d]

Custom portfolio for example. Why not level the playing field and give it to everyone to showcase their work.

Fiverr will never allow all sellers to have custom portfolios. It would just make buyers confused regarding why X seller charges $100 and Mr. Pro charges $1,500 for the exact same thing.

In fact… This might be why Fiverr is ordering the search as Pros - New Sellers - Then other sellers with loads of reviews and high-quality live portfolios last. There simply has to be seen to be a difference between the quality being offered.

So you are saying the only difference between a Pro seller and a non-Pro in terms of quality, is the quality of the presentation of the portfolio and not the samples themselves?

I have seen your remarks re: quality peppered here and there, and while I didn’t want to engage, I have to say, as a Pro seller I do take some offence.

I am rather objective -as objective as One can be about their own work- when I say I have yet to encounter a gig that offers the “exact same thing” for $100.

I understand your need for having a more leveled playing field but let’s not obliterate everything in the process.

[misscrystal]

So you are saying the only difference between a Pro seller and a non-Pro in terms of quality, is the quality of the presentation of the portfolio and not the samples themselves?

I have seen your remarks re: quality peppered here and there, and while I didn’t want to engage, I have to say, as a Pro seller I do take some offence.

I am rather objective -as objective as One can be about their own work- when I say I have yet to encounter a gig that offers the “exact same thing” for $100.

I understand your need for having a more leveled playing field but let’s not obliterate everything in the process.

I think that there is no way to generalize in terms of “Pro is always better than regular sellers” since there is so much variation in quality. You are probably better than 100% of all regular sellers while others might not be.

I’ve seen a couple of Cy’s videos and they were Pro quality and I’ve also seen yours and they are also Pro quality, although they were different types of videos.

[cyaxrex]

So you are saying the only difference between a Pro seller and a non-Pro in terms of quality, is the quality of the presentation of the portfolio and not the samples themselves?

I have seen your remarks re: quality peppered here and there, and while I didn’t want to engage, I have to say, as a Pro seller I do take some offence.

I am rather objective -as objective as One can be about their own work- when I say I have yet to encounter a gig that offers the “exact same thing” for $100.

I understand your need for having a more leveled playing field but let’s not obliterate everything in the process.

I have seen your remarks re: quality peppered here and there, and while I didn’t want to engage, I have to say, as a Pro seller I do take some offence.

I’m sorry. I hope that in time you make a full recovery.

[misscrystal]

I never said I was better. Nor was I fishing for compliments.

@cyaxrex My bad for replying to you man.

I don’t know what made you so toxic but I sincerely hope that you are the one who recovers.

In my opinion your explainer or whiteboard video was the best I’ve ever seen.

And as I said, Cy’s video was the best I’ve seen of its kind too. So I think both of you are exceptional.

I doubt if most regular sellers could produce the quality that Cy does. Admittedly, I’ve not seen a lot of the videos sold on fiverr.

[cyaxrex]

I never said I was better. Nor was I fishing for compliments.

@cyaxrex My bad for replying to you man.

I don’t know what made you so toxic but I sincerely hope that you are the one who recovers.

I don’t know what made you so toxic

I have never resorted to calling you or anyone else names on this forum. Having a different opinion than someone in a discussion is not toxic. Entering a discussion and attempting to steer it, then acting insulted and name calling when you run into difficulty doing that is toxic. What is more, it is certainly not very professional.

[nikavoice]

I never said I was better. Nor was I fishing for compliments.

@cyaxrex My bad for replying to you man.

I don’t know what made you so toxic but I sincerely hope that you are the one who recovers.

Gosh, I hope this doesn’t turn into a PRO vs The Other Titles bloodbath. 😬

I think listening to the opinions on both (all) sides is healthy. Of course in a respectful way!

[misscrystal]

I know for a fact there are writers on fiverr who charge $10 for work as good as a Pro seller could do for much more. I also know for a fact of a designer who only charges $5 who does Pro quality work.

The point is that there are all kinds of buyers, who feel more comfortable spending more for a Pro seller and being more assured of getting high quality.

Pros are vetted by fiverr so that alone justifies the higher prices.

[eoinfinnegan]

I think it is fair to say that within this thread, people are not specifically targeting individual sellers, nor are they saying that “all Pro sellers are this”, “all non-Pro sellers are that”.
Those taking part do seem to recognize that different sellers are different, some offer high quality at a high price, others offer low quality at a low price and there are all kinds of price:quality ratios in between.

[frank_d]

I apologize @cyaxrex

My comment has been flagged.

I do hope you recover. I meant that.

Not as good with words as you.

So, yeah. I’m done trying to steer things.

[misscrystal]

I can see how it would be annoying if you know you do work on level with a Pro seller at 1/10th the price, or if you see Pro sellers doing inferior work to yours at inflated prices. I think that was part of what Cy was expressing.

And especially so if you see the Pro sellers who are inferior to you prominently displayed, charging ten times what you charge while your gigs are hidden someone on the back pages.

[nikavoice]

I know for a fact there are writers on fiverr who charge $10 for work as good as a Pro seller could do for much more. I also know for a fact of a designer who only charges $5 who does Pro quality work.

The point is that there are all kinds of buyers, who feel more comfortable spending more for a Pro seller and being more assured of getting high quality.

Pros are vetted by fiverr so that alone justifies the higher prices.

Pros are vetted by fiverr so that alone justifies the higher prices.

Maybe, I’m opening up a can of 🐛 worms. Nothing towards you @frank_d your work speaks for itself.

However, I’ve seen a few shady/3rd party issues PRO gigs that I wonder how they got vetted in the first place. I won’t say the categories but it really makes me wonder.

A bunch of copycatting going on, too.

[cyaxrex]

I apologize @cyaxrex

My comment has been flagged.

I do hope you recover. I meant that.

Not as good with words as you.

So, yeah. I’m done trying to steer things.

I apologize @cyaxrex

Your apology is accepted. In fact, I am right now returning my blunderbuss to the armory and calling off my friends in the Yakuza.

I am sorry also, if I have offended you. I have nothing but the highest respect for your services and personal quality of work on Fiverr. You are clearly deserving of the Pro title and work very hard to maintain it. It was not my intention to make you feel as if I was making a personal attack.

[misscrystal]

I apologize @cyaxrex

Your apology is accepted. In fact, I am right now returning my blunderbuss to the armory and calling off my friends in the Yakuza.

I am sorry also, if I have offended you. I have nothing but the highest respect for your services and personal quality of work on Fiverr. You are clearly deserving of the Pro title and work very hard to maintain it. It was not my intention to make you feel as if I was making a personal attack.

That was beautiful ^^^

[frank_d]

I apologize @cyaxrex

Your apology is accepted. In fact, I am right now returning my blunderbuss to the armory and calling off my friends in the Yakuza.

I am sorry also, if I have offended you. I have nothing but the highest respect for your services and personal quality of work on Fiverr. You are clearly deserving of the Pro title and work very hard to maintain it. It was not my intention to make you feel as if I was making a personal attack.

I truly appreciate you calling off the dogs.

And your words moved me a bit kore than I’d like to admit.

I didn’t take what you said personally.

You see I am constantly torn.

On the one hand I too feel like Fiverr keeps non-pro sellers out of the loop or hurts them with changes they make, on the other hand I worked really REALLY hard to get where I am now.

And I often feel like jabs against the Pro tier are also about me.

I need to grow thicker skin.

[jcmcbride]

I wonder if a lot of the frustration is because of Fiverr’s lack of transparency. Not that the platform owes any of us any explanations, but it can be frustrating to see changes that affect your livelihood with no heads up or explanation.

I suspect that the Pro program has not been as successful as Fiverr had hoped. It wants to improve its image in terms of the quality of the freelancers. It wants buyers with bigger budgets.

Like @frank_d said, the BYOB program is not very good. That keeps many Pro sellers from trying to get their clients to buy on Fiverr.

I have ben here since 2014. Not as long as some, but I have seen a lot of changes. I had built a good client base outside of the platform. As Fiverr made changes that allowed for high dollar gigs, better upsells, and as I level up here, I spent more of my efforts building my client base here.

Fiverr Pro was also part of that. But, I have always been cautious about how much I rely on Fiverr. The bottom line is I have no control over the platform. That makes me, and every other seller–whether Pro or not, vulnerable. If you want security as a freelancer you need multiple income streams. When I had a strange dip in Fiverr sales in mid-March I made some changes to my gigs and I worked harder on some of my other income streams.

Each of us is responsible for our businesses. Blaming Fiverr, or Pro sellers for the loss of sales may be accurate. But, it doesn’t matter. It is up to each of us to build sustainable businesses. I love Fiverr. it has been greaaat for me personally. But, all of us would be wise to make sure Fiverr is only part of our business. Relying 100% on any platform you do not own and control is dangerous and foolish.

[Guest uxreview]

I wonder if a lot of the frustration is because of Fiverr’s lack of transparency. Not that the platform owes any of us any explanations, but it can be frustrating to see changes that affect your livelihood with no heads up or explanation.

I suspect that the Pro program has not been as successful as Fiverr had hoped. It wants to improve its image in terms of the quality of the freelancers. It wants buyers with bigger budgets.

Like @frank_d said, the BYOB program is not very good. That keeps many Pro sellers from trying to get their clients to buy on Fiverr.

I have ben here since 2014. Not as long as some, but I have seen a lot of changes. I had built a good client base outside of the platform. As Fiverr made changes that allowed for high dollar gigs, better upsells, and as I level up here, I spent more of my efforts building my client base here.

Fiverr Pro was also part of that. But, I have always been cautious about how much I rely on Fiverr. The bottom line is I have no control over the platform. That makes me, and every other seller–whether Pro or not, vulnerable. If you want security as a freelancer you need multiple income streams. When I had a strange dip in Fiverr sales in mid-March I made some changes to my gigs and I worked harder on some of my other income streams.

Each of us is responsible for our businesses. Blaming Fiverr, or Pro sellers for the loss of sales may be accurate. But, it doesn’t matter. It is up to each of us to build sustainable businesses. I love Fiverr. it has been greaaat for me personally. But, all of us would be wise to make sure Fiverr is only part of our business. Relying 100% on any platform you do not own and control is dangerous and foolish.

Not that the platform owes any of us any explanations, but it can be frustrating to see changes that affect your livelihood with no heads up or explanation.

That’s the thing, I think they should communicate their changes a bit better. For example, the recent ANDCO announcement was a mess, but it took them a bit of time to understand where they made a mistake and they corrected it.

As they grow they will become more mature and responsible.

[misscrystal]

Cy is king of the flowery (but sincere) apologies. 👑 Can I borrow that next time I enrage someone?

[shoaibashraf12]

😍

[pintoo0]

Well, it’s not a new strategy by Fiverr regarding promotion of something new in the marketplace. When they launched TRS badge, they used to promote that badge so much for years not for months for years. At that time TRS gigs were settled at top rows of the searches so that they can get good business. It’s the same strategy, Fiverr is using to promote PRO sellers and they are quite successful in this new initiative. Obviously, they know what is running best for them and they will do what they think is running best for them at any cost.

Fiverr is getting saturated day by day, thousands of sellers join this site on daily basis. In order to balance traffic, they are doing experiments for the betterment of their business. Everyone can raise their prices if they think PRO sellers are charging more than regular gigs no one stopping any seller from doing this.

Being pro seller I know, it was not easy for us to reach that level, that’s why Fiverr mentioned less than 0.1% who apply reach this status.