The Dangers of Thread Research

[damooch916]

Hi!
My name is Skippy MacWonderMuffin and I’m new. Please adore me and wash me in undeserved praise.

Did you know that 9 out of 10 - formerly practicing - psychologists strongly recommend NEVER conducting thread research prior to joining an established forum?

I’m sort of a forum junkie. I like to sign up and immediately start a conversation without investigating. It’s like JFK said:

“Ask not what topics have been extensively covered on your favorite forum, surely it’s worth rehashing.” -Direct internet quote

Anyhoo, I have some questions:

1. Why do sellers post in the Buyers Request section?
   Sellers posting in Buyer’s Request obviously creates an involuntary paralysis, disabling us from being able to simply skip the seller’s post. The only known remedy is asking powerless thread attendees to share in a chorus of displeasure.

2. Why am I not getting any sells from Buyers Request?
   I totally copied and pasted the same message to over 100 buyers. How is this not working? I offered the moon, unlimited revisions and did every conceivable thing to demonstrate a lack of value…why don’t they want me? I see all these other people with new buyers and think, “What does he have that I don’t?” I’ve messaged each buyer repeatedly, I’ve begged and I’ve replaced any hint of my own personality with whatever the prospect wants to hear… this has totally never worked with meeting people in person, why is it not working now? Just look at my life on Instagram! I’m standing with celebrities and at a beach. That means I’m totally happy, so why am I not happy? Surely if I look happy - you should buy things.

3. Why am I not getting sales?
   It’s starting to sound like I’m supposed to be marketing. Look… I didn’t come here to learn business stuff, I came here to make money. It’s not like there are all these places where people sign up online and already exist for me to talk about my services with. If I just had a service where my friends were all in one place…some, like, yearbook of faces… with maybe communities… then I could advertise. Oh well.

4. Does anyone know the fiverr algorithm?
   Isn’t it true that if we ALL knew the correct formula, we’d ALL get paid the same? It’s not like that would backfire, leaving us all doing the exact same methods and resulting in equal to results. It’s not like there’s a thread between professionalism and people who review new ways of attracting clients. As if those people are more reliable sellers who probably deserve to be higher in ranking… just because they have proven sales stats… whatever.

5. Can everyone review my gigs?
   Hey! This is totally not a ploy to drive impressions and possible sells. I really do need the advice. Couldn’t you tell I’m sincerely needing the help by how I argued with every piece of criticism? I didn’t mean really give me advice. I meant, “tell me my gig is great,” obviously. So what if my picture isn’t really me… or my English is broken… or I didn’t post original examples? And who needs your video? What, is there some place that shows the statistics of videos increasing conversion rates? I didn’t think so.

Certainly there is no place to find any of these answers. Even if there were, people learn differently and by that I mean, “you do the work because I say so.” After all, how will some folks stay relevant in a world where consistently offering advice on these topics requires unique approaches and a fresh voice?

So get to work… I’ll just be here preparing my “I’ve been on fiverr for one week, here’s my tips to long term success” thread.

[damooch916]

I turned the “snobby” to a 8.5 decibel level, lest anyone believe this batch of complaint sauce is an actual conversation or inquiry.

[Guest david1082b]

Hi!

My name is Skippy MacWonderMuffin and I’m new. Please adore me and wash me in undeserved praise.

Did you know that 9 out of 10 - formerly practicing - psychologists strongly recommend NEVER conducting thread research prior to joining an established forum?

I’m sort of a forum junkie. I like to sign up and immediately start a conversation without investigating. It’s like JFK said:

“Ask not what topics have been extensively covered on your favorite forum, surely it’s worth rehashing.” -Direct internet quote

Anyhoo, I have some questions:

1. Why do sellers post in the Buyers Request section?

   Sellers posting in Buyer’s Request obviously creates an involuntary paralysis, disabling us from being able to simply skip the seller’s post. The only known remedy is asking powerless thread attendees to share in a chorus of displeasure.

2. Why am I not getting any sells from Buyers Request?

   I totally copied and pasted the same message to over 100 buyers. How is this not working? I offered the moon, unlimited revisions and did every conceivable thing to demonstrate a lack of value…why don’t they want me? I see all these other people with new buyers and think, “What does he have that I don’t?” I’ve messaged each buyer repeatedly, I’ve begged and I’ve replaced any hint of my own personality with whatever the prospect wants to hear… this has totally never worked with meeting people in person, why is it not working now? Just look at my life on Instagram! I’m standing with celebrities and at a beach. That means I’m totally happy, so why am I not happy? Surely if I look happy - you should buy things.

3. Why am I not getting sales?

   It’s starting to sound like I’m supposed to be marketing. Look… I didn’t come here to learn business stuff, I came here to make money. It’s not like there are all these places where people sign up online and already exist for me to talk about my services with. If I just had a service where my friends were all in one place…some, like, yearbook of faces… with maybe communities… then I could advertise. Oh well.

4. Does anyone know the fiverr algorithm?

   Isn’t it true that if we ALL knew the correct formula, we’d ALL get paid the same? It’s not like that would backfire, leaving us all doing the exact same methods and resulting in equal to results. It’s not like there’s a thread between professionalism and people who review new ways of attracting clients. As if those people are more reliable sellers who probably deserve to be higher in ranking… just because they have proven sales stats… whatever.

5. Can everyone review my gigs?

   Hey! This is totally not a ploy to drive impressions and possible sells. I really do need the advice. Couldn’t you tell I’m sincerely needing the help by how I argued with every piece of criticism? I didn’t mean really give me advice. I meant, “tell me my gig is great,” obviously. So what if my picture isn’t really me… or my English is broken… or I didn’t post original examples? And who needs your video? What, is there some place that shows the statistics of videos increasing conversion rates? I didn’t think so.

Certainly there is no place to find any of these answers. Even if there were, people learn differently and by that I mean, “you do the work because I say so.” After all, how will some folks stay relevant in a world where consistently offering advice on these topics requires unique approaches and a fresh voice?

So get to work… I’ll just be here preparing my “I’ve been on fiverr for one week, here’s my tips to long term success” thread.

Why do sellers post in the Buyers Request section?

The obvious answer is that it’s the first thing you notice on the front page when you log in, so many people will accidentally-on-purpose misunderstand its use. I imagine Fiverr put it there to make it easy for buyers to get going, but it’s clearly not useful due to the lack of actual buyers and over-abundance of sellers. It reveals the skewed ratio on Fiverr, too many sellers and not enough buyers. It will always be that way I suppose. The number of people trying to make decent money on the internet will always be hundreds of times more than the number who can. IRL jobs will probably always dominate, and the internet gig economy will remain one of the most unequal marketplaces.

[sue_mcl]

Its such a shame our favourite snarky green capsicum is no longer posting on the forum, I think you two would get along very well! :rofl:

[misscrystal]

It’s important to separate “Why am I not getting sells?” from “Why am I not getting sales?” because these are really two separate issues.

Not getting sales carries an aspect of hope that one can do something about it, while not getting sells sounds much more ominous. There is a language barrier.

[writer99025]

I tried reading, but it’s too long for me, maybe I’ll read later when I have time. Don’t get me wrong, I love your writing, but it takes time to read your posts, which I don’t have.

[damooch916]

I tried reading, but it’s too long for me, maybe I’ll read later when I have time. Don’t get me wrong, I love your writing, but it takes time to read your posts, which I don’t have.

I tried reading

You’re supposed to be on creative leave. Don’t allow for my long winded, thinly veiled critiques to take up your self imposed “working exile.” Then you’ll have to throw my name into the “things that unwisely use my time” pile as you did twitter

[damooch916]

It’s important to separate “Why am I not getting sells?” from “Why am I not getting sales?” because these are really two separate issues.

Not getting sales carries an aspect of hope that one can do something about it, while not getting sells sounds much more ominous. There is a language barrier.

It’s important to separate “Why am I not getting sells?” from “Why am I not getting sales?” because these are really two separate issues.

There are many mispronounced, scathing oddities to my pseudo commentaries.

edit reason: Because I’m currently arguing about my own prices with an interested prospect and losing focus of my beloved forum conversations.

[damooch916]

Why do sellers post in the Buyers Request section?

The obvious answer is that it’s the first thing you notice on the front page when you log in, so many people will accidentally-on-purpose misunderstand its use. I imagine Fiverr put it there to make it easy for buyers to get going, but it’s clearly not useful due to the lack of actual buyers and over-abundance of sellers. It reveals the skewed ratio on Fiverr, too many sellers and not enough buyers. It will always be that way I suppose. The number of people trying to make decent money on the internet will always be hundreds of times more than the number who can. IRL jobs will probably always dominate, and the internet gig economy will remain one of the most unequal marketplaces.

so many people will accidentally-on-purpose misunderstand its use

Ahhhh…

The dreaded accidentally - on - purpose, you say.

I have no criticisms for system abusers. My faux “help wanted post” is reserved for those -so heatedly invested into the purported offense - that they thread-whine.

Interestingly enough, I’m also gathering data on the hypocrisy of whining about trifling behaviors by whining. Call it a hobby.

There isn’t a systematic practice occurring that isn’t being abused. With one notable exception: The Dewey Decimal. No one … and I mean, NO ONE would think to cross Melvil Dewey.

Even now, somewhere in the haunts of a smoldering Lake Placid evening…you can hear his whaling cut through the muggy air (although, being a librarian and all, it’s more like a fairly spooky whisper). With a good case of the fear and the right pair of ears… you can almost hear his howl… directing phantoms and indexing their romps of gore and terror.