eoinfinnegan Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 The following are a few interesting parts of the Payoneer Freelancer Income Survey carried out recently.It should be noted that this was made up of 21,000 freelancers who use Payoneer.Interesting stats on average hourly rates per sector:Some good news for those who are 60+ too!Surprising results when it comes to education levels -@youssefkamel @braden10collins I dont care what it says, you are going to University!And the importance of freelance platforms is clear: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vickiespencer Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 I like the part about older freelancers making more dollars! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youssefkamel Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 😭 I fed up of school already.I love those stats by the way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vickiespencer Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 😭 I fed up of school already.I love those stats by the way!You love them because . . .I am fed up with winter and it is less than a day old. ❄️ Here we got our first heavy snow today. Which means I do not want to travel out to the schools to sub even though I love the High School students. Sorry about your school year. When does it end? When do you graduate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youssefkamel Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 You love them because . . .I am fed up with winter and it is less than a day old. ❄️ Here we got our first heavy snow today. Which means I do not want to travel out to the schools to sub even though I love the High School students. Sorry about your school year. When does it end? When do you graduate?I actually love them because my father is near of retirement. And since he’s a workaholic, introducing him to freelancing will be a great way to fill his free time, I believe.My school year ends after 7 months from now & I will graduate after 3 years. Unfortunately, the learning system in Egypt is one of the worst. So waking up 7Am to waste 7 hours of your day on something which isn’t going to help in the future is just killing me! (Except some subjects.)I never saw snow before :thinking: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulmaplesden Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 I read the study and found it quite interesting, but the hourly rates appear very low, which I realize is mainly caused by averaging across developing economies in addition to the higher-paying US / Euro-centric ones. I would like to have seen a breakdown by region. Still good food for thought though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vickiespencer Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 I actually love them because my father is near of retirement. And since he’s a workaholic, introducing him to freelancing will be a great way to fill his free time, I believe.My school year ends after 7 months from now & I will graduate after 3 years. Unfortunately, the learning system in Egypt is one of the worst. So waking up 7Am to waste 7 hours of your day on something which isn’t going to help in the future is just killing me! (Except some subjects.)I never saw snow before :thinking:Good idea about getting your father to freelance. Just show him these statistics.That is my car out there. I need to sweep it off before I can go anywhere. However, first I have to plod through the snow to get there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youssefkamel Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Good idea about getting your father to freelance. Just show him these statistics.That is my car out there. I need to sweep it off before I can go anywhere. However, first I have to plod through the snow to get there.image.jpg960×720 202 KBOh gosh, this looks painful! ☃️ Doing that everyday to go anywhere is something ain’t interesting at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misscrystal Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 I read the study and found it quite interesting, but the hourly rates appear very low, which I realize is mainly caused by averaging across developing economies in addition to the higher-paying US / Euro-centric ones. I would like to have seen a breakdown by region. Still good food for thought though.but the hourly rates appear very lowI agree! What lawyer is working for $30 an hour? Nowhere in the US. Those figures are much lower than if you used the US average. Designers with experience earn three times those figures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vickiespencer Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Oh gosh, this looks painful! ☃️ Doing that everyday to go anywhere is something ain’t interesting at all.That is why I prefer to freelance and stay by my fireplace with my hot cocoa and my computer and proofread or write. :📰 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misscrystal Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Good idea about getting your father to freelance. Just show him these statistics.That is my car out there. I need to sweep it off before I can go anywhere. However, first I have to plod through the snow to get there.image.jpg960×720 202 KBThat’s horrible! But what a pretty lamp! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eoinfinnegan Posted November 1, 2017 Author Share Posted November 1, 2017 I read the study and found it quite interesting, but the hourly rates appear very low, which I realize is mainly caused by averaging across developing economies in addition to the higher-paying US / Euro-centric ones. I would like to have seen a breakdown by region. Still good food for thought though.Yes, very low rates in many cases.Payoneer, I believe, is extremely popular in poorer countries, especially where PayPal is not available or has high fees. The Payoneer card is also widely used by those without bank accounts which would point towards lower income groups.In addition, it is used a lot by part time freelancers who have been included in the survey. Finally, Payoneer has never really marketed itself aside from cash incentives for sign ups which tends to attract lower income groups.As Miss C said, you could easily treble the rates for a lot of those in Europe and the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vickiespencer Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Yes, very low rates in many cases.Payoneer, I believe, is extremely popular in poorer countries, especially where PayPal is not available or has high fees. The Payoneer card is also widely used by those without bank accounts which would point towards lower income groups.In addition, it is used a lot by part time freelancers who have been included in the survey. Finally, Payoneer has never really marketed itself aside from cash incentives for sign ups which tends to attract lower income groups.As Miss C said, you could easily treble the rates for a lot of those in Europe and the US.So do you think Paypal’s report would look different? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulmaplesden Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 It’s not as comprehensive, but Hello Bonai is an invoicing platform for freelancers and they share rates for specific skillsets in developed countries.hellobonsai.com Freelance Rates Explorer - BonsaiVisualize freelance hourly rates for the most common freelance design and development skills including graphic design, front-end development, UI design or mobile development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssj1236 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Yes, very low rates in many cases.Payoneer, I believe, is extremely popular in poorer countries, especially where PayPal is not available or has high fees. The Payoneer card is also widely used by those without bank accounts which would point towards lower income groups.In addition, it is used a lot by part time freelancers who have been included in the survey. Finally, Payoneer has never really marketed itself aside from cash incentives for sign ups which tends to attract lower income groups.As Miss C said, you could easily treble the rates for a lot of those in Europe and the US.SORRY FOR BEING A 3RD WORLD COUNTRY AND NOT HAVING PAYPAL >_<P.SThe majority of Freelancers I know surprisingly use Western Union or direct deposit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misscrystal Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 SORRY FOR BEING A 3RD WORLD COUNTRY AND NOT HAVING PAYPAL >_<P.SThe majority of Freelancers I know surprisingly use Western Union or direct deposit.@ssj1236 Aw it’s not your fault. I don’t think anyone here is not understanding of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
writer99025 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Well, my hourly rates are quite low compared to what Pro Paul makes, but I am strangely satisfied, don’t ask me why 😏 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misscrystal Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Well, my hourly rates are quite low compared to what Pro Paul makes, but I am strangely satisfied, don’t ask me why 😏You wouldn’t be if you lived in this country. There you have all you need plus an excess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
writer99025 Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 You wouldn’t be if you lived in this country. There you have all you need plus an excess.You are right to an extent…[i mean, if I had a family/dependents/debt/rent to pay I wouldn’t be so smug even in India.] [i just want to make the point that it’s not just how much you earn, but how much you spend, how much you save and how you invest that matters. Just focusing on one aspect - earnings - as most people do, is short-sighted. Not just talking about freelancers or freelance income, but in general.] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eoinfinnegan Posted November 2, 2017 Author Share Posted November 2, 2017 SORRY FOR BEING A 3RD WORLD COUNTRY AND NOT HAVING PAYPAL >_<P.SThe majority of Freelancers I know surprisingly use Western Union or direct deposit.SORRY FOR BEING A 3RD WORLD COUNTRY AND NOT HAVING PAYPALJust dont let it happen again.PS. I use Payoneer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
writer99025 Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 SORRY FOR BEING A 3RD WORLD COUNTRY AND NOT HAVING PAYPAL >_<P.SThe majority of Freelancers I know surprisingly use Western Union or direct deposit.SORRY FOR BEING A 3RD WORLD COUNTRYHere’s the truth - it doesn’t matter which country you’re from, first world or third world, it doesn’t matter how bad or how good your economy is, it doesn’t matter whether your country is rich or poor -it’s your mindset that matters. If you have a success mindset, you will be successful anywhere. If you have a failure mindset you will be a failure anywhere. Don’t try to change your country, change your mindset. [Not talking about you specifically SSJ, just a general comment, or meaningless platitude as someone calls it.] [i am not the best example for earnings here, my earnings are mediocre, but I know sellers from third world countries such as Cambodia, Vietnam etc. who make $6,000+/month. They have the success mindset. As a matter of fact, I know there is one very humble seller from Pakistan who makes that kind of money.] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariokluser Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 I like the part about older freelancers making more dollars!Me too. It also makes sense in some way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
writer99025 Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 Damn - I give so much good advice on the forum. I should charge $100 for every meaningless platitude then I will be rich like like Pro Paul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eoinfinnegan Posted November 2, 2017 Author Share Posted November 2, 2017 Damn - I give so much good advice on the forum. I should charge $100 for every meaningless platitude then I will be rich like like Pro Paul.If I give you $100 will you stop the meaningless platitudes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
writer99025 Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 If I give you $100 will you stop the meaningless platitudes?Nah, that will take you $100 x 10000 or $1million, as I have another 10,000 meaningless platitudes left in me, at least for the next 12-14 months… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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