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I’m puzzled by how simply refreshing my browser can move my gigs around, as well as the other gigs.

I’m puzzled by how simply refreshing my browser can move my gigs around, as well as the other gigs.

There are only X spots on the first page, if the ranking always showed the same 20 people (whatever the number), those people would get flooded with orders and few others would have a chance.

I suspect the ranking system allows newer gigs to spend some time closer to the top so the system can see how they do.

A gig that was showing up as 50th (or 350th) may have a seller who is putting out killer stuff, but few have seen it yet. IF they rotate in a few lower ranking gigs, the system can quickly figure out if the gig has sales potential.

I suspect if it gets lots of views but no sales, it will start ranking lower in a few days. OR if a new gig gets a high sale to view ratio, I suspect it may start ranking higher over time.

There are tons of factors beyond just the star rankings. Buyers can optionally fill in a private survey after the sale which is only seen inside Fiverr, and those probably make a huge difference too. Not all 5 star ratings are equal, and I would expect that to make a difference too.

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However a few select gigs sit on that top row all the time without changing or simply jump from the top row to the second row and jump around just on the top two rows. From looking at when they get reviews it does not look like they are doing a lot of business either.

Fiverr seems to have implemented ‘weighted shuffling’ a couple of months back. I thought this is common knowledge and fairly well known on the forum. 😕

What this means is that previously Gigs were ranked and displayed in the same order and positions changed only when the ranking is changed. But now they add a bit of randomness to rankings whenever the Gigs are displayed. I guess this was done to give opportunity to more people at the loss of visibility to established sellers.

The top row gigs might just have rankings so high (for whatever reason) that randomness doesn’t effect them. Just a theory.

Fiverr seems to have implemented ‘weighted shuffling’ a couple of months back. I thought this is common knowledge and fairly well known on the forum. 😕

What this means is that previously Gigs were ranked and displayed in the same order and positions changed only when the ranking is changed. But now they add a bit of randomness to rankings whenever the Gigs are displayed. I guess this was done to give opportunity to more people at the loss of visibility to established sellers.

The top row gigs might just have rankings so high (for whatever reason) that randomness doesn’t effect them. Just a theory.

Yes, my husband did lots of database work in his past and he suspects you are right. He said if he was writing the ranking, that’s the type of thing he would include.

It allows gigs which wouldn’t normally get to the top some visibility. If they do well, it could move them up a bit.

As I mentioned in another post, there is also the secondary private ranking that some sellers can fill out after they provide the public “star rating”.

I would expect those rankings to carry even more weight, both positive and negative.

There are other factors that could be included:

  • Tips?
  • Average selling price of gigs (the higher the better)
  • Repeat buyers? (A major sign of customer satisfaction)
  • Private survey comments
  • How many new buyers purchase after seeing the gig? (If they look at 3-10 gigs, then purchase yours, it says you are doing something right…)
  • How quickly do you deliver compared to others in your category?
  • Other factors I can’t think of right now…

Again, many get hung up on the star ranking and total numbers implying that a gig should be higher/lower. That’s just a couple visible factors, but there are many more we can’t see.

It’s a very complex issue, and on the outside it is almost impossible to know/see all the factors. We can make educated guesses based on observations if we know enough about how those things are built. (I don’t, but my husband talks about it all the time…)

Those are still subject to being wrong, and when they are right, subject to change next week.

Focus is always on us improving our gig delivery, our gig presentation, how much value we deliver, and how we treat customers.

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it also depend on the Favorite ❤️ icon that how many people made it favorite…and the gig placement wll change

it also depend on the Favorite ❤️ icon that how many people made it favorite…and the gig placement wll change

Actually no, it doesn’t depend on the Favorite icon.

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it also depend on the Favorite ❤️ icon that how many people made it favorite…and the gig placement wll change

Actually no, it doesn’t depend on the Favorite icon.

Lolz it work for me… its upto you ive just suggested…

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Fiverr seems to have implemented ‘weighted shuffling’ a couple of months back. I thought this is common knowledge and fairly well known on the forum. 😕

What this means is that previously Gigs were ranked and displayed in the same order and positions changed only when the ranking is changed. But now they add a bit of randomness to rankings whenever the Gigs are displayed. I guess this was done to give opportunity to more people at the loss of visibility to established sellers.

The top row gigs might just have rankings so high (for whatever reason) that randomness doesn’t effect them. Just a theory.

Yes, my husband did lots of database work in his past and he suspects you are right. He said if he was writing the ranking, that’s the type of thing he would include.

It allows gigs which wouldn’t normally get to the top some visibility. If they do well, it could move them up a bit.

As I mentioned in another post, there is also the secondary private ranking that some sellers can fill out after they provide the public “star rating”.

I would expect those rankings to carry even more weight, both positive and negative.

There are other factors that could be included:

  • Tips?
  • Average selling price of gigs (the higher the better)
  • Repeat buyers? (A major sign of customer satisfaction)
  • Private survey comments
  • How many new buyers purchase after seeing the gig? (If they look at 3-10 gigs, then purchase yours, it says you are doing something right…)
  • How quickly do you deliver compared to others in your category?
  • Other factors I can’t think of right now…

Again, many get hung up on the star ranking and total numbers implying that a gig should be higher/lower. That’s just a couple visible factors, but there are many more we can’t see.

It’s a very complex issue, and on the outside it is almost impossible to know/see all the factors. We can make educated guesses based on observations if we know enough about how those things are built. (I don’t, but my husband talks about it all the time…)

Those are still subject to being wrong, and when they are right, subject to change next week.

Focus is always on us improving our gig delivery, our gig presentation, how much value we deliver, and how we treat customers.

Late response; been busy.

It allows gigs which wouldn’t normally get to the top some visibility. If they do well, it could move them up a bit.

Yes, Fiverr definitely moved in that direction. It’s their way of giving opportunity to New and less prominent sellers at the expense of more established ones.

Occasionally we hear someone saying, how “New/Level 1” sellers are ranking above Level 2 and Top rated sellers… but the the thing is, it’s not the same New Sellers but different ones among 100’s who occasionally get an opportunity to be placed above top sellers.

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Late response; been busy.

It allows gigs which wouldn’t normally get to the top some visibility. If they do well, it could move them up a bit.

Yes, Fiverr definitely moved in that direction. It’s their way of giving opportunity to New and less prominent sellers at the expense of more established ones.

Occasionally we hear someone saying, how “New/Level 1” sellers are ranking above Level 2 and Top rated sellers… but the the thing is, it’s not the same New Sellers but different ones among 100’s who occasionally get an opportunity to be placed above top sellers.

Yes, Fiverr definitely moved in that direction. It’s their way of giving opportunity to New and less prominent sellers at the expense of more established ones.

I don’t think it’s that simple overall. If Fiverr continues to re-invest in marketing to bring in new clients then the more established sellers could still get more views overall. (For example: buying keywords on Google, buying ads on social media, PR so that more articles appear in major magazine sites)

The more established gigs had such a major advantage in the past, even if they stopped performing well, they would always be shown near the top, and that prior momentum keeps them there, even if some newer players are actually stronger.

Established will no longer get every impression possible, and short term they may drop, but if done properly the whole ecosystem will grow, AND the stronger new sellers will have a chance to be competitive.

Some of the sellers around for X years get complacent, because Fiverr always showed them at the top of the listing because they established enough of a lead, new people wouldn’t get discovered.

IF Fiverr grows the buyer pool, then it all works great for a far wider range of people. Established players who are doing a great job, and continue to do a great job will do fine IF Fiverr continues to expand the buyer pool.

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I think these gigs are showing in engaging system. like when someone like your post in fb in a specific group that post will be top until a new post is published or another post is liked by someone. it’s just my thought. 🙂

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