😠 Does Fiverr monitor these groups?

[catwriter]

Would anyone think that 70 reviews in one day from the same buyer could be legitimate?

Just wondering if that’s possible since I noticed a gig like that. All the gigs from this seller have the same thing from this one buyer.

Would anyone think that 70 reviews in one day from the same buyer could be legitimate?

It’s not completely impossible if the buyer buys throughout the month, but rates all the orders on the same day.

[rainny_writer]

Fiverr actually is lax in the way they monitor seller fraud. While sellers complain a lot about fraudulent buyers, try perusing websites that allow personal review submissions and you’ll be surprised at the level of scam-ish sellers on this site. They are so many. And, there are just about as many opportunities to scam buyers as there are opportunities to scam sellers. Fiverr is more than able to clean up the site if they want to, but I think sometimes they just choose to turn a blind eye; something that eventually costs the good sellers more than it does the bad.

Speaking of which, I recently saw a buyer request of someone who needed review exchange. It was blatantly spelled out and the person got upwards of 20 offers. How is that even allowed?! If they are able to clean up their house and change their negative image on many peer review websites, they’ll increase their revenue and those of their sellers. But this is not to say they are not trying, just not trying enough.

I like the efforts they’ve been making in recent times. Then again, I believe this site, like any public marketplace, can never be completely clean.

[rainny_writer]

Ratings should be weighted in some form. A 1-star review on a $5 order shouldn’t mean as much as a 5-star review on a $500 order.

I think just putting the order total next to the review would be acceptable and very beneficial.

When someone first suggested this, I thought buyers might not like it for privacy reasons. But then again, all other platforms usually show (1) the price of each sale, along with (2) how much revenue each seller has made. It could lead to a better picture of performance and reliability, especially if buyers knew each seller’s total amount of completed orders and revenue.

I think just putting the order total next to the review would be acceptable and very beneficial.

When someone first suggested this, I thought buyers might not like it for privacy reasons. But then again, all other platforms usually show (1) the price of each sale, along with (2) how much revenue each seller has made. It could lead to a better picture of performance and reliability, especially if buyers knew each seller’s total amount of completed orders and revenue.

I like the idea of giving weight to sales, but only successful sellers will benefit from it. That will turn the system more in favor of successful sellers (an ill currently present with the current rating system), and keep new sellers in limbo. After all, every new seller begins with $5 orders. How would you progress when everyone can see clearly that all you’ve got are “cheap” reviews? Who will be willing to take the first leap?

If, though, they decide to incorporate a weighted system, it will be unwise to publish the total order revenue. I don’t want a buyer meeting me to tell me how much he sees I’ve made and why I should give him a discount because of that. A color code for different price levels (as suggested by @gina_riley2) is not out of place.

[sydneymorgan]

I think just putting the order total next to the review would be acceptable and very beneficial.

When someone first suggested this, I thought buyers might not like it for privacy reasons. But then again, all other platforms usually show (1) the price of each sale, along with (2) how much revenue each seller has made. It could lead to a better picture of performance and reliability, especially if buyers knew each seller’s total amount of completed orders and revenue.

I like the idea of giving weight to sales, but only successful sellers will benefit from it. That will turn the system more in favor of successful sellers (an ill currently present with the current rating system), and keep new sellers in limbo. After all, every new seller begins with $5 orders. How would you progress when everyone can see clearly that all you’ve got are “cheap” reviews? Who will be willing to take the first leap?

If, though, they decide to incorporate a weighted system, it will be unwise to publish the total order revenue. I don’t want a buyer meeting me to tell me how much he sees I’ve made and why I should give him a discount because of that. A color code for different price levels (as suggested by @gina_riley2) is not out of place.

I’m thinking the weighted reviews would mostly contribute to gig ranking in the backend, and they would be individual for each seller.

So, if a new seller only makes $5 orders, all reviews are weighted the same for them whether 1 star or 5 stars. It’s when they make a larger order that it will outweigh a smaller order.

[Guest didaralam274]

I noticed that they are taking down the pages that I sent them of people selling accounts.

How do they know it’s a real ad and not the work of a competitor?

I do agree with you! Anyone can post anyone url and ask for exchange. At the end, quality seller will survive and fake and bad one will disappear.

[lisabaarns]

There has been lots of talk lately about splitting all orders into $5 orders to get more reviews.

I vaguely remember a buyer on here complaining that they had to pay lots more in payment fees because the seller insisted on splitting a $100 order into 20 $5 orders.

And this is the reason why I think 5r should have tiered review system. It doesn’t have to be complicated, any order below $20 - review in gold; over $20 in red; over $60 in green; over $100 in blue. Or something to this effect.

Sellers would want the green or blue reviews, therefore less chance of splitting or buying each other’s gigs.

Sellers would want the green or blue reviews, therefore less chance of splitting or buying each other’s gigs.

Makes sense to me. Since the newer system is taking into account the value of larger orders, sellers who are selling more will be rewarded with higher rankings.

With the newest factor of “Average Price Per Gig” being included in the overall process, splitting an order up becomes far less attractive. Meaning those people who do it will get less value from that than they would have 6 months ago.

I’m also clear the system does have some positive bias for newer gigs/people, giving someone new a chance to get into the game.

[gina_riley2]

I don’t think they can do it for a long time. People who don’t have talent will definitely fall.

I don’t think they can do it for a long time. People who don’t have talent will definitely fall.

True, however, there will be a large number of buyers who leave the platform thinking 5r is a joke. The greater the bad sellers, the larger the dissatisfied customers who will permanently leave.

That impacts all sellers. Those could be buyers that may have stuck around to buy from many other sellers.

[mjensen415]

With all the talk about social media promotion (the legit kind), I finally logged into Facebook this morning and typed “Fiverr” into the search bar to see what came up.

One of the most popular groups is the “Fiverr Review Exchange” and it is constantly getting posts from sellers with direct links to gigs. It’s not like it’s hard to find (took me <5 seconds and I’m Facebook illiterate). It’s also open to the public, so all someone at Fiverr has to do is go to the group and find all the sellers trading fake reviews.

Is Fiverr doing anything about this?

This is why buyers come to sellers asking for reassurance because “the last guy scammed me even though he had great reviews.” It’s Fiverr’s reputation at stake.

Is Fiverr doing anything about this?

There are something we CAN and CAN’T do about Facebook groups. Yes, this is an issue, if you do come across any of these groups please send them my way.

[gina_riley2]

Sellers would want the green or blue reviews, therefore less chance of splitting or buying each other’s gigs.

Makes sense to me. Since the newer system is taking into account the value of larger orders, sellers who are selling more will be rewarded with higher rankings.

With the newest factor of “Average Price Per Gig” being included in the overall process, splitting an order up becomes far less attractive. Meaning those people who do it will get less value from that than they would have 6 months ago.

I’m also clear the system does have some positive bias for newer gigs/people, giving someone new a chance to get into the game.

With the newest factor of “Average Price Per Gig” being included in the overall process, splitting an order up becomes far less attractive. Meaning those people who do it will get less value from that than they would have 6 months ago.

My point exactly!

The new sellers may have a slight disadvantage here, but everyone started new. The way I look at it is that first few are $5 reviews. If they are indeed good, that one repeat client could place a large order, giving that newbie an immediate boost in ranking and review over their peers.

[thecreativeguys]

Sellers would want the green or blue reviews, therefore less chance of splitting or buying each other’s gigs.

Makes sense to me. Since the newer system is taking into account the value of larger orders, sellers who are selling more will be rewarded with higher rankings.

With the newest factor of “Average Price Per Gig” being included in the overall process, splitting an order up becomes far less attractive. Meaning those people who do it will get less value from that than they would have 6 months ago.

I’m also clear the system does have some positive bias for newer gigs/people, giving someone new a chance to get into the game.

@gina_riley2 This is an amazing idea the more I think about it!

And just what @lisabaarns said:

Makes sense to me. Since the newer system is taking into account the value of larger orders, sellers who are selling more will be rewarded with higher rankings.

With the newest factor of “Average Price Per Gig” being included in the overall process, splitting an order up becomes far less attractive. Meaning those people who do it will get less value from that than they would have 6 months ago.

I’m also clear the system does have some positive bias for newer gigs/people, giving someone new a chance to get into the game.

This whole thing makes so much sense!

[dasarg]

What if they’re saboteurs trying to get their competition banned? 😃

On a non-conspiratorial note, I think it would be fairly easy for Fiverr to investigate and take action against them.

The forum Black Hat World is also a place where review exchanges, account trading etc. happen. It would be great if they did something about it.

I just came across a person selling a Fiverr account that belongs to an active member of the forum (TRS). Sabotage, hacking or a hoax? I have messaged the seller and will report to CS shortly

[misscrystal]

I just came across a person selling a Fiverr account that belongs to an active member of the forum (TRS). Sabotage, hacking or a hoax? I have messaged the seller and will report to CS shortly

I just came across a person selling a Fiverr account that belongs to an active member of the forum (TRS). Sabotage, hacking or a hoax? I have messaged the seller and will report to CS shortly

How do you know it is really the actual seller and not someone pretending to be them? It has to be not real somehow.

edit: I just did a search of this and see lots of these offerings. One guy says he makes $1000 a month and is trying to sell his account for $12,000.

[dasarg]

I just came across a person selling a Fiverr account that belongs to an active member of the forum (TRS). Sabotage, hacking or a hoax? I have messaged the seller and will report to CS shortly

How do you know it is really the actual seller and not someone pretending to be them? It has to be not real somehow.

edit: I just did a search of this and see lots of these offerings. One guy says he makes $1000 a month and is trying to sell his account for $12,000.

I don’t. That is why I am wondering whether it’s actually them, a saboteur, a hacker or a conman. I personally doubt the TRS is involved, it’s most likely a scam.

[rainny_writer]

I don’t. That is why I am wondering whether it’s actually them, a saboteur, a hacker or a conman. I personally doubt the TRS is involved, it’s most likely a scam.

Have you sent a message to the TRS involved? You can alert them here on the forum (privately) so you both can think up how to go - if they’re not involved.

[writer99025]

I just came across a person selling a Fiverr account that belongs to an active member of the forum (TRS). Sabotage, hacking or a hoax? I have messaged the seller and will report to CS shortly

WOW…which TRS? There are not that many TRS that are active members of the forum, just 5 or 6 I think. [it’s 99.9% a scam, someone using the TRS’ name. Warn them right away.]

[dasarg]

Have you sent a message to the TRS involved? You can alert them here on the forum (privately) so you both can think up how to go - if they’re not involved.

I did message them. That is who I mean by ‘seller’ in my original post

[dasarg]

WOW…which TRS? There are not that many TRS that are active members of the forum, just 5 or 6 I think. [it’s 99.9% a scam, someone using the TRS’ name. Warn them right away.]

That’s what I think too.

[writer99025]

That’s what I think too.

I just hope some assh@le does not use popular sellers’ names without their knowledge and try to scam some suckers into buying their accounts. Messy situation for everyone concerned, except the assh@le. This happens all the time in India - some conmen say that they represent a minister or a top government official and ask for bribes in their name for favors, such as a job and then disappear. The poor people who give them the money lose everything on it, they even sell their house or get a loan and once they don’t get what they want, they blame the minister or the government official - who has no idea what’s happening. This happened on many occasions with my dad, who was a top bureaucrat.

[designer_pro2]

Would anyone think that 70 reviews in one day from the same buyer could be legitimate?

Just wondering if that’s possible since I noticed a gig like that. All the gigs from this seller have the same thing from this one buyer.

and I wonder if Fiverr aware those sellers who have fake reviews as well.

[official_nomi]

100% agree with you. Fiverr is not doing anything about this. Such scammers should be banned and Fiverr can easily do this by monetizing such groups and ban accounts.

[tarnia]

Is there a rule on the forum if something gets over 100 votes fiverr have to look at it or did I imagine that. This really needs looking at !

[mrproofreading]

WOW…which TRS? There are not that many TRS that are active members of the forum, just 5 or 6 I think. [it’s 99.9% a scam, someone using the TRS’ name. Warn them right away.]

I’m somewhat active and truly hope it isn’t me 😨

[rainny_writer]

I’m somewhat active and truly hope it isn’t me 😨

He said he has informed the person, so you’d know if it were you.

Funny, but I have a feeling that some here who are giving voice to “Fiverr should do something” have also participated in this at one time or other. Please, this is not accusing anyone. Just a personal hunch.

[misscrystal]

I can’t think of how someone would sell a fiverr account technically. Let’s say it’s for sale for $1000 and someone sends you the money for it. What is to keep you from not giving it to them? Who would they complain to? How do you prove you are the actual owner of the account?

What if the country is different? Then there is the matter of security questions and passwords.
The whole procedure doesn’t seem possible to me.

[rainny_writer]

I can’t think of how someone would sell a fiverr account technically. Let’s say it’s for sale for $1000 and someone sends you the money for it. What is to keep you from not giving it to them? Who would they complain to? How do you prove you are the actual owner of the account?

What if the country is different? Then there is the matter of security questions and passwords.

The whole procedure doesn’t seem possible to me.

Unfortunately, it does happen. It also comes with the risk of one party being scammed. Do I (account seller) give you access codes before the sale? How can I be sure you wouldn’t make a move to change the password and say you won’t deal again? Do I (account buyer) wait until I’ve made the payment before demanding the codes? How am I certain I would be given actual working codes? Whom do I ask when I’m not?

It’s an endless list of questions. But I believe many have found a way to get the deals through the line successfully. Maybe, two sincere sellers who really want to deal? Idk…