Capgras Syndrome: What IF People Really are Being Replaced?

[capgras2019]

So, I have a particularly esoteric problem with regard to marriage/adultery/ remarriage which has been something that has perplexed Biblical scholars for millenia and there aren’t consistent views on the answer to this in the best of circumstances.

And this is why you need to discuss this problem with your wife - or the person who you feel is professing to be your wife. Most regular relationships end at the point when one party says “I don’t feel the same way about you anymore.”

If you tell your wife you think she literally isn’t the same person she will react. If you sincerely feel she has been replaced to keep tabs on you, she won’t let you leave should you try to. There are several ways anyone can logically test the affection, loyalty, or identity of their significant other.

You seem to have come here to say that the woman you live with everyday is an impostor but you are still living with her anyway.

Whoever that woman is, this is her life too. You might be wrong and might be sitting on an emotional bomb that is going to wreck her life as much as it will yours when it explodes.

You need to take this offline and start dialogue

As for the esoteric adultery implications, if you really believe you are sleeping with the wrong person, you just don’t.

And this is why you need to discuss this problem with your wife - or the person who you feel is professing to be your wife. Most regular relationships end at the point when one party says “I don’t feel the same way about you anymore.”

Obviously trying to discuss has been extremely difficult as it is distressing to her at face value, and whatever/ whoever I interact with whether it is fragments of shattered identity (she is BPD) or something sinister, is incredibly difficult. From multiple broken relationships, I now appreciate just how far removed we have become from what God intended and how they are now disposable, consumable items just like everything else in modern life and it is tragic with compounded trauma for everyone involved. Feelings and circumstances do change, but the contemporary view of relationship is it’s about self, which is diametrically opposed to what is taught in Bible and the laying down of self.

If you tell your wife you think she literally isn’t the same person she will react. If you sincerely feel she has been replaced to keep tabs on you, she won’t let you leave should you try to. There are several ways anyone can logically test the affection, loyalty, or identity of their significant other.

Of course. Irrespective of the truth of the situation. She wouldn’t let me leave at various points/ and kicked me out at another. I don’t think its possible to conclude anything right now. But again, this started with Anne Marie’s experience - which you say her son corroborated her otherwise inexplicable and apparently delusional belief - how did her husband react ?

You seem to have come here to say that the woman you live with everyday is an impostor but you are still living with her anyway.

Whoever that woman is, this is her life too. You might be wrong and might be sitting on an emotional bomb that is going to wreck her life as much as it will yours when it explodes.

Currently not living with her, but see her. Yes, it is her life too - assuming that is hers and I am extremely sensitive to that. Through the whole experience, it has forced both of us to recognise a lot about ourselves, overcome various things (especially for her with BPD), and I do not want to subject her to further distress and so a lot about how we have been handling things has changed.

As for the esoteric adultery implications, if you really believe you are sleeping with the wrong person, you just don’t.

I stopped as it is hurtful to her and tormenting to me. I can only say that I am a very different man in terms of everything to do with relationship with women, the sanctity of marriage, and the beauty of monogamy.

[capgras2019]

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If she’s an imposter or a walk-in or a thoughtform that matches the old live in, she doesn’t care. They are running on a program. The frontal lobes aren’t exactly the usual ones humans would have.

This is scary and not far removed from what the experience and correlates with the stuff re SRA programming.

Or if he means someone like the fake Melania that’s another matter. Then she would be like the spy we had for a while who had to live with a much older, unattractive man to get information from him. I think the OP realizes on some level this is a delusion but it’s still very real to him.

The question is whether it is delusion or not. Anne Marie, and presumably her son, remained convinced that it was not delusion.

I read this excerpt from a book where ex-freemasons speak out, the final quote is this:

‘There is no defence against an evil which only the victims and the perpetrators know exists.’

https://www.bilderberg.org/masons.htm#CHAPTER

That is basically what I was dealing with in UK.

[capgras2019]

Conspiracy time everyone!

Now to be fair, this is a friend of a friend story, not a personal experience. However, an older woman from Australia moved to my sleepy fishing village last autumn and despite seeing her almost every morning, I only today discovered something extraordinarily interesting about her. It goes like this:

For most of the 70’s and 80’s, my kind of friend Ann Marie was happily married to her husband Michael, They had a house, great lifestyle, kids, and were very happy. Then in 1988, Michael came home from work early while Ann Marie was making dinner and seemed to be acting odd. There was no affection, his body language was all off, and the most creepy part was that as time went on, Ann Marie and her oldest son always had the feeling that when Michael made reference to the past or personal details about them, it was like he was reciting something out of an encyclopedia.

Long story short, Ann quickly became 100% certain that her husband had been replaced by a stranger. However, the worst part for her was not knowing what had happened to her real husband. This and that the person who had replaced him seemed to enjoy toying with her when they were alone together.

In the end, Ann was diagnosed with Capgras Syndrome, a delusion where people suddenly believe that a loved one has been replaced by a stranger. Rather, however, than accepting this diagnosis, Ann got a divorce, raised her children herself and has been traveling the world since the late 90’s, still 100% certain that Capgras isn’t a delusion but a convenient way for society to put a band aid on a huge and very disturbing conspiracy.

All that said, Ann doesn’t talk about this often, purely becuse of the ridicule she expects from people who haven’t experienced the phenomena themselves. More to the point, she’s as sane as anyone else I know, (or at least was until this morning).

So, without ANY REFERENCE AT ALL TO INDIAN POLITICS, what would your take on a case like this be? Are some people just mental? Or could there be something much more to this and if so, what? Demonic possession? Aliens? Foreign spies somehow transplanted into body doubles? Or something even more sinister?

In the end, Ann was diagnosed with Capgras Syndrome, a delusion where people suddenly believe that a loved one has been replaced by a stranger. Rather, however, than accepting this diagnosis, Ann got a divorce, raised her children herself and has been traveling the world since the late 90’s, still 100% certain that Capgras isn’t a delusion but a convenient way for society to put a band aid on a huge and very disturbing conspiracy.

All that said, Ann doesn’t talk about this often, purely becuse of the ridicule she expects from people who haven’t experienced the phenomena themselves. More to the point, she’s as sane as anyone else I know, (or at least was until this morning).

Perhaps my experience is far more extreme, but as you noted previously, a not dissimilar circumstance re a commercial interest, but speaking out about it, even to someone who is aware of it happening to someone else still attracts ridicule.

What happens if we are not suffering from a genuine delusion, but are the victims of an horrific, sinister and controlling evil? Have you any idea how isolating and discouraging that is?

[misscrystal]

In the end, Ann was diagnosed with Capgras Syndrome, a delusion where people suddenly believe that a loved one has been replaced by a stranger. Rather, however, than accepting this diagnosis, Ann got a divorce, raised her children herself and has been traveling the world since the late 90’s, still 100% certain that Capgras isn’t a delusion but a convenient way for society to put a band aid on a huge and very disturbing conspiracy.

All that said, Ann doesn’t talk about this often, purely becuse of the ridicule she expects from people who haven’t experienced the phenomena themselves. More to the point, she’s as sane as anyone else I know, (or at least was until this morning).

Perhaps my experience is far more extreme, but as you noted previously, a not dissimilar circumstance re a commercial interest, but speaking out about it, even to someone who is aware of it happening to someone else still attracts ridicule.

What happens if we are not suffering from a genuine delusion, but are the victims of an horrific, sinister and controlling evil? Have you any idea how isolating and discouraging that is?

What happens if we are not suffering from a genuine delusion, but are the victims of an horrific, sinister and controlling evil?

That’s how I feel about narcissists. I feel there may be fragments of the old, real person stuck inside the shell along with the newer entity.

So OP your wife, who is actually a replacement, still has borderline personality disorder? How can they make her still have that if the real person is gone? Wouldn’t a replacement not have that?

What part of your wife do you think was replaced? The whole person? How do they make such accurate duplicates? Is it a clone or what? Are they raised from infants, or is some kind of machine making full grown adults at the same age as the original? Do they have different fingerprints?

Or are you talking about the same body only with a totally different person inside it?

[capgras2019]

What happens if we are not suffering from a genuine delusion, but are the victims of an horrific, sinister and controlling evil?

That’s how I feel about narcissists. I feel there may be fragments of the old, real person stuck inside the shell along with the newer entity.

So OP your wife, who is actually a replacement, still has borderline personality disorder? How can they make her still have that if the real person is gone? Wouldn’t a replacement not have that?

What part of your wife do you think was replaced? The whole person? How do they make such accurate duplicates? Is it a clone or what? Are they raised from infants, or is some kind of machine making full grown adults at the same age as the original? Do they have different fingerprints?

Or are you talking about the same body only with a totally different person inside it?

So OP your wife, who is actually a replacement, still has borderline personality disorder? How can they make her still have that if the real person is gone? Wouldn’t a replacement not have that?

BPD is pretty strange to encounter and deal with and sits on the same spectrum of trauma/ dissociation as DID (formerly MPD). On that spectrum the horrific trauma that the person experiences leads to dissociation and in full blown DID, a fragmentation of identity into discrete alters. At lower levels on the spectrum, this seems to be fragmentation of parts of the personality, but not as far as independent alters. I’ve corresponded extensively with people who have been victims of SRA/ DID and who are in healing ministry of people with DID, as well as read extensively on both the psychiatry and spiritual approaches, as well as extensively regarding BPD and people’s experiences from both the sufferer’s perspective and people who have been in/ are in relationships with them. At an extreme, the use of SRA to induce DID is done specifically to create a programming of the individual with demonic attachments to each alter and this seems to be occurring on a far more widespread basis than may be expected. There are some interesting things regarding DID. Firstly, Kaufman (psychiatrist who specialises in this) has reported the different physical/ physiological manifestations between alters - such as different eye colours, allergies, heart rates/ blood pressure etc and others have noted e.g. bruising specific to one alter and no others, different levels of visual acuity including blindness in a specific alter etc - so there is some weird link between internal consciousness and external physical manifestation of self. Secondly, an increasing proportion of psychiatric profession are calling on exorcists to deal with the disorder after using medication etc to stabilise patients - I can’t remember the place I found the report, but it was credible. Thirdly, the reports of healing ministry (deliverance) suggest that it is effective and quicker than any psychological approaches. Now, that’s DID. BPD is less extreme, but the possibility exists that in addition to psychological trauma, there is an attachment of spiritual entities and if your read extensively on people’s actual experiences with BPD partners, then you will come across some where they are confronted with something that is beyond something purely psychological. So, the question becomes whether it can be some form of possession or if it were a different entity, then a transference of the spiritual entities.

What part of your wife do you think was replaced? The whole person? How do they make such accurate duplicates? Is it a clone or what? Are they raised from infants, or is some kind of machine making full grown adults at the same age as the original?

I’m not able to reconcile her physical being with before the change - facial features, facial movements, muscular-skeletal structure, body movement - besides everything to do with personality, character etc. I have various photographic, video etc in which there are very marked differences too and it makes her furious when I examine them.

There is cross-cultural, through millennia reports about doppelgangers of people which seem to be the spiritual double, but not the original person/ soul.

Then there are the ‘conspiracy theory’ reports and allusions to (from the music industry) regarding ‘illuminati clones’ which suggest that blank bodies can be genetically programmed in a short space of time to create a clone.

Then there are the follow-ons from Mengeles work with twinning and the mkultra/ monarch stuff.

Then there is the cross-cultural, going back into pre-history reports of the existence of shape-shifting half serpent beings.

So, who knows. Whatever the truth about this is the secret, or secrets, that are being used to control the world.

My hope is always that its not the case and that its just delusion.

[misscrystal]

So OP your wife, who is actually a replacement, still has borderline personality disorder? How can they make her still have that if the real person is gone? Wouldn’t a replacement not have that?

BPD is pretty strange to encounter and deal with and sits on the same spectrum of trauma/ dissociation as DID (formerly MPD). On that spectrum the horrific trauma that the person experiences leads to dissociation and in full blown DID, a fragmentation of identity into discrete alters. At lower levels on the spectrum, this seems to be fragmentation of parts of the personality, but not as far as independent alters. I’ve corresponded extensively with people who have been victims of SRA/ DID and who are in healing ministry of people with DID, as well as read extensively on both the psychiatry and spiritual approaches, as well as extensively regarding BPD and people’s experiences from both the sufferer’s perspective and people who have been in/ are in relationships with them. At an extreme, the use of SRA to induce DID is done specifically to create a programming of the individual with demonic attachments to each alter and this seems to be occurring on a far more widespread basis than may be expected. There are some interesting things regarding DID. Firstly, Kaufman (psychiatrist who specialises in this) has reported the different physical/ physiological manifestations between alters - such as different eye colours, allergies, heart rates/ blood pressure etc and others have noted e.g. bruising specific to one alter and no others, different levels of visual acuity including blindness in a specific alter etc - so there is some weird link between internal consciousness and external physical manifestation of self. Secondly, an increasing proportion of psychiatric profession are calling on exorcists to deal with the disorder after using medication etc to stabilise patients - I can’t remember the place I found the report, but it was credible. Thirdly, the reports of healing ministry (deliverance) suggest that it is effective and quicker than any psychological approaches. Now, that’s DID. BPD is less extreme, but the possibility exists that in addition to psychological trauma, there is an attachment of spiritual entities and if your read extensively on people’s actual experiences with BPD partners, then you will come across some where they are confronted with something that is beyond something purely psychological. So, the question becomes whether it can be some form of possession or if it were a different entity, then a transference of the spiritual entities.

What part of your wife do you think was replaced? The whole person? How do they make such accurate duplicates? Is it a clone or what? Are they raised from infants, or is some kind of machine making full grown adults at the same age as the original?

I’m not able to reconcile her physical being with before the change - facial features, facial movements, muscular-skeletal structure, body movement - besides everything to do with personality, character etc. I have various photographic, video etc in which there are very marked differences too and it makes her furious when I examine them.

There is cross-cultural, through millennia reports about doppelgangers of people which seem to be the spiritual double, but not the original person/ soul.

Then there are the ‘conspiracy theory’ reports and allusions to (from the music industry) regarding ‘illuminati clones’ which suggest that blank bodies can be genetically programmed in a short space of time to create a clone.

Then there are the follow-ons from Mengeles work with twinning and the mkultra/ monarch stuff.

Then there is the cross-cultural, going back into pre-history reports of the existence of shape-shifting half serpent beings.

So, who knows. Whatever the truth about this is the secret, or secrets, that are being used to control the world.

My hope is always that its not the case and that its just delusion.

So then it’s a thoughtform only more permanent than the ones I make.

[capgras2019]

So then it’s a thoughtform only more permanent than the ones I make.

…so what is a thoughtform ?

[misscrystal]

…so what is a thoughtform ?

That’s something you can google. It’s a bigger subject than I can explain here.

[capgras2019]

That’s something you can google. It’s a bigger subject than I can explain here.

Just took a quick look. It is possible, at least in part. This is really confusing, complex as to what has happened and I haven’t described a lot of phenomena that have occurred that make it even harder to comprehend.

I find it too hard to accept a reality where loving can’t be the answer, so I just keep trying now, instead of trying to find something to fight head on which I was doing before. The difference is that before, I at least felt alive and had my integrity however messed up that may have seemed, while now I feel like I’m kind of dead and struggling with whether I am a liar or not as I adored my wife beyond comprehension and so feel like I’ve betrayed and I’m a liar, but of course I can’t help but have feelings, have grown to love her anyway, and can’t help but want to love her, but then I am torn with guilt as to what happened to my real wife and what if the all of the manifestations, torment etc is real and I am just handing myself over to the enemy.

I sound like a whiny b*tch which p’s me off now! However, this really is a harrowing experience for me, and anyone affected, and not something that anyone should treat lightly, take as entertainment, and it’s kind of upsetting that there is so much popular fiction gorging on this exact theme.

Another thing that has occurred to me is WHY is there an accelerating increase in the number of capgras cases being reported ? Until relatively recently, it was extremely rare and almost certainly linked to physical trauma or alzheimer’s/ parkinsons, but seemingly there are ever increasing number of cases popping up. This could either suggest that there really is something terrifying unfolding, or it is the coincidental consequence of increasing mental health problems from the compounding generational effect of emotional trauma as a result of a systematic destruction of family units, marriages, serial relationships become norms etc and amidst ever increasing emotional/ psychological stress…

[capgras2019]

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…oh, that’s back to square one of conspiracy. Then what happened to the real people?

[misscrystal]

…oh, that’s back to square one of conspiracy. Then what happened to the real people?

what happened to the real people?

They are “standing aside” in some sort of limbo. It’s like a coma in a sense. Whoever made the thoughtforms can cancel them at any time and the real people will then come back into the bodies.

I have a little more info on exactly where they are but it’s so strange and unbelievable I don’t want to discuss it. This whole subject stretches believability for most people as it is.

[capgras2019]

what happened to the real people?

They are “standing aside” in some sort of limbo. It’s like a coma in a sense. Whoever made the thoughtforms can cancel them at any time and the real people will then come back into the bodies.

I have a little more info on exactly where they are but it’s so strange and unbelievable I don’t want to discuss it. This whole subject stretches believability for most people as it is.

Yeah, I get it. The only people I have come across who didn’t think there was anything odd about the stuff I describe were a catholic priest, their exorcist and a Benedectine monk! They were even able to give quite some detailed explanations of how the (demonic) spiritual realm can manipulate your reality and that you are not crazy. However, they weren’t able to get to the bottom of what this is.

I dunno, I guess more than anything I’m kind of p’d off that none of us asked to be born, or to be dropped into some kind of dystopic shitshow just because we are trying to get on and live - although I guess that’s where the not doing it God’s way comes in - but it’s a pretty cruel reality (and that’s not meant to be entitled as I am very well aware that there are billions of people in the world suffering all sorts of extreme injustice and hardship of different forms)

[capgras2019]

what happened to the real people?

They are “standing aside” in some sort of limbo. It’s like a coma in a sense. Whoever made the thoughtforms can cancel them at any time and the real people will then come back into the bodies.

I have a little more info on exactly where they are but it’s so strange and unbelievable I don’t want to discuss it. This whole subject stretches believability for most people as it is.

They are “standing aside” in some sort of limbo. It’s like a coma in a sense. Whoever made the thoughtforms can cancel them at any time and the real people will then come back into the bodies.

And the real people have memory of the lapsed time as the thoughtform, or they are wtf happened, where have I been…?

[misscrystal]

Yeah, I get it. The only people I have come across who didn’t think there was anything odd about the stuff I describe were a catholic priest, their exorcist and a Benedectine monk! They were even able to give quite some detailed explanations of how the (demonic) spiritual realm can manipulate your reality and that you are not crazy. However, they weren’t able to get to the bottom of what this is.

I dunno, I guess more than anything I’m kind of p’d off that none of us asked to be born, or to be dropped into some kind of dystopic shitshow just because we are trying to get on and live - although I guess that’s where the not doing it God’s way comes in - but it’s a pretty cruel reality (and that’s not meant to be entitled as I am very well aware that there are billions of people in the world suffering all sorts of extreme injustice and hardship of different forms)

Life is all about suffering. It’s not supposed to be fun and if we manage to have fun along the way that’s simply a bonus to keep us hanging on. And we chose it. We have to learn.

[misscrystal]

Yeah, I get it. The only people I have come across who didn’t think there was anything odd about the stuff I describe were a catholic priest, their exorcist and a Benedectine monk! They were even able to give quite some detailed explanations of how the (demonic) spiritual realm can manipulate your reality and that you are not crazy. However, they weren’t able to get to the bottom of what this is.

I dunno, I guess more than anything I’m kind of p’d off that none of us asked to be born, or to be dropped into some kind of dystopic shitshow just because we are trying to get on and live - although I guess that’s where the not doing it God’s way comes in - but it’s a pretty cruel reality (and that’s not meant to be entitled as I am very well aware that there are billions of people in the world suffering all sorts of extreme injustice and hardship of different forms)

The only people I have come across who didn’t think there was anything odd about the stuff I describe were a catholic priest, their exorcist and a Benedectine monk!

Well now you have come across one more and I’m no monk or priest. Once you actively experience real possession in people, and what the dark forces can do over and over again, you know. They are of course talking about negative entities as I call them, and they are incredibly common. But that’s not the same thing as thoughtforms.

[cyaxrex]

Just took a quick look. It is possible, at least in part. This is really confusing, complex as to what has happened and I haven’t described a lot of phenomena that have occurred that make it even harder to comprehend.

I find it too hard to accept a reality where loving can’t be the answer, so I just keep trying now, instead of trying to find something to fight head on which I was doing before. The difference is that before, I at least felt alive and had my integrity however messed up that may have seemed, while now I feel like I’m kind of dead and struggling with whether I am a liar or not as I adored my wife beyond comprehension and so feel like I’ve betrayed and I’m a liar, but of course I can’t help but have feelings, have grown to love her anyway, and can’t help but want to love her, but then I am torn with guilt as to what happened to my real wife and what if the all of the manifestations, torment etc is real and I am just handing myself over to the enemy.

I sound like a whiny b*tch which p’s me off now! However, this really is a harrowing experience for me, and anyone affected, and not something that anyone should treat lightly, take as entertainment, and it’s kind of upsetting that there is so much popular fiction gorging on this exact theme.

Another thing that has occurred to me is WHY is there an accelerating increase in the number of capgras cases being reported ? Until relatively recently, it was extremely rare and almost certainly linked to physical trauma or alzheimer’s/ parkinsons, but seemingly there are ever increasing number of cases popping up. This could either suggest that there really is something terrifying unfolding, or it is the coincidental consequence of increasing mental health problems from the compounding generational effect of emotional trauma as a result of a systematic destruction of family units, marriages, serial relationships become norms etc and amidst ever increasing emotional/ psychological stress…

Another thing that has occurred to me is WHY is there an accelerating increase in the number of capgras cases being reported ?

My guess would be that the Mandela Effect might have something to do with this. i.e. Where reality itself changes. It’s quite a head spin to realize that you remember completely different historical events to other people around you.

In the case of people you know personally and have for a long time, it can be disturbing to realize that they seem to be from a different reality than you. I imagine that this could lead to some people assuming that a friend o relative is an impostor/replacement. - Technically, you could also argue that this is the case.

[misscrystal]

Another thing that has occurred to me is WHY is there an accelerating increase in the number of capgras cases being reported ?

My guess would be that the Mandela Effect might have something to do with this. i.e. Where reality itself changes. It’s quite a head spin to realize that you remember completely different historical events to other people around you.

In the case of people you know personally and have for a long time, it can be disturbing to realize that they seem to be from a different reality than you. I imagine that this could lead to some people assuming that a friend o relative is an impostor/replacement. - Technically, you could also argue that this is the case.

In the case of people you know personally and have for a long time, it can be disturbing to realize that they seem to be from a different reality than you.

It comes as such a huge shock to your entire being when suddenly the “entity” shows itself beneath the disguise and you finally see the beast that was carefully hidden. You have been seeing small glimpses of it all along but chose to ignore them, but then suddenly you find yourself confronted by a monster in full open view one horrible day.

[capgras2019]

In the case of people you know personally and have for a long time, it can be disturbing to realize that they seem to be from a different reality than you.

It comes as such a huge shock to your entire being when suddenly the “entity” shows itself beneath the disguise and you finally see the beast that was carefully hidden. You have been seeing small glimpses of it all along but chose to ignore them, but then suddenly you find yourself confronted by a monster in full open view one horrible day.

You got that right! I’ve tried to wrap my mind around the whole narcissist thing and it’s not possible to even begin to really comprehend, the immensity of it, the sheer lack of anything human in many of them, the level of impersonation of humans they are capable of for at least a while. It’s way beyond comprehension, and the level of uniformity of them, the commonality of the various features, the maneuvers they all routinely use. It’s like an army with one overseer. One script they all follow with only slight twists in it.

It comes as such a huge shock to your entire being when suddenly the “entity” shows itself beneath the disguise and you finally see the beast that was carefully hidden. You have been seeing small glimpses of it all along but chose to ignore them, but then suddenly you find yourself confronted by a monster in full open view one horrible day.

You’ve seen this yourself?

[capgras2019]

Another thing that has occurred to me is WHY is there an accelerating increase in the number of capgras cases being reported ?

My guess would be that the Mandela Effect might have something to do with this. i.e. Where reality itself changes. It’s quite a head spin to realize that you remember completely different historical events to other people around you.

In the case of people you know personally and have for a long time, it can be disturbing to realize that they seem to be from a different reality than you. I imagine that this could lead to some people assuming that a friend o relative is an impostor/replacement. - Technically, you could also argue that this is the case.

In the case of people you know personally and have for a long time, it can be disturbing to realize that they seem to be from a different reality than you. I imagine that this could lead to some people assuming that a friend o relative is an impostor/replacement. - Technically, you could also argue that this is the case.

I’m just reading a thread on reddit from some poor guy who had a girlfriend and one day he no longer recognised her - face, body, voice etc, she freaked out, they got a police sketch artist to sketch the girl he remembered and it turns out it was her dead sister. It seems genuine from the dialogue in the comments. Seriously disturbing.

[uk1000]

Another thing that has occurred to me is WHY is there an accelerating increase in the number of capgras cases being reported ?

My guess would be that the Mandela Effect might have something to do with this. i.e. Where reality itself changes. It’s quite a head spin to realize that you remember completely different historical events to other people around you.

In the case of people you know personally and have for a long time, it can be disturbing to realize that they seem to be from a different reality than you. I imagine that this could lead to some people assuming that a friend o relative is an impostor/replacement. - Technically, you could also argue that this is the case.

My guess would be that the Mandela Effect might have something to do with this. i.e. Where reality itself changes. It’s quite a head spin to realize that you remember completely different historical events to other people around you.

It could just be that people’s memory is imperfect and people’s minds fill in the gaps in their knowledge differently/retrieve various memories incorrectly, just making assumptions based on partial knowledge and those assumptions/the way the remember partially stored events (and where/how they are stored) could be different for different people and some of those could be incorrect.

Maybe sort of like Google’s DeepDream where it creates images based on what it’s previously seen and an input image.

en.m.wikipedia.org

DeepDream

DeepDream is a computer vision program created by Google engineer Alexander Mordvintsev which uses a convolutional neural network to find and enhance patterns in images via algorithmic pareidolia, thus creating a dream-like hallucinogenic appearance in the deliberately over-processed images. Google's program popularized the term (deep) "dreaming" to refer to the generation of images that produce desired activations in a trained deep network, and the term now refers to a collection of related app...

[misscrystal]

You got that right! I’ve tried to wrap my mind around the whole narcissist thing and it’s not possible to even begin to really comprehend, the immensity of it, the sheer lack of anything human in many of them, the level of impersonation of humans they are capable of for at least a while. It’s way beyond comprehension, and the level of uniformity of them, the commonality of the various features, the maneuvers they all routinely use. It’s like an army with one overseer. One script they all follow with only slight twists in it.

It comes as such a huge shock to your entire being when suddenly the “entity” shows itself beneath the disguise and you finally see the beast that was carefully hidden. You have been seeing small glimpses of it all along but chose to ignore them, but then suddenly you find yourself confronted by a monster in full open view one horrible day.

You’ve seen this yourself?

Over and over again without understanding it until a few years ago. And as I said it’s not possible to fully understand but to simply realize you are dealing with something less than or other than fully human. Many people begin to realize this. Of course it’s my own opinion but it’s shared with lots of people.

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Over and over again without understanding it until a few years ago. And as I said it’s not possible to fully understand but to simply realize you are dealing with something less than or other than fully human. Many people begin to realize this. Of course it’s my own opinion but it’s shared with lots of people.

I’ve seen something similar and can see it in the eyes studying through the human ‘suit’ or however you describe it…the fuller manifestation comes when it doesn’t get its way/ you challenge it and all of a sudden any pretense of mimicking a human completely disappears, it almost shrinks and becomes grey, kind of insectoid and indescribably cold malevolent fury. Its scary. The question is whether there is a human there somewhere, whether the human is gone completely, whether it’s possession/ partial possession/ a veiled DID etc. I do not know, just it is real and I have seen it in from 2 people.

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In the case of people you know personally and have for a long time, it can be disturbing to realize that they seem to be from a different reality than you. I imagine that this could lead to some people assuming that a friend o relative is an impostor/replacement. - Technically, you could also argue that this is the case.

I’m just reading a thread on reddit from some poor guy who had a girlfriend and one day he no longer recognised her - face, body, voice etc, she freaked out, they got a police sketch artist to sketch the girl he remembered and it turns out it was her dead sister. It seems genuine from the dialogue in the comments. Seriously disturbing.

I’m just reading a thread on reddit from some poor guy who had a girlfriend and one day he no longer recognised her - face, body, voice etc, she freaked out, they got a police sketch artist to sketch the girl he remembered and it turns out it was her dead sister.

It could just be that the brain has recognised both people (as people he knew) but the connections/outputs just come to the wrong conclusion about who they were. Maybe the outputs of the neurons/dendrites (eg. those that should have detected those people) just didn’t work correctly for some reason and gave the wrong outputs.

So the person could just have mis-remembered the person and the people he knew probably hadn’t changed.

[capgras2019]

I’ve seen something similar and can see it in the eyes studying through the human ‘suit’ or however you describe it…the fuller manifestation comes when it doesn’t get its way/ you challenge it and all of a sudden any pretense of mimicking a human completely disappears, it almost shrinks and becomes grey, kind of insectoid and indescribably cold malevolent fury. Its scary. The question is whether there is a human there somewhere, whether the human is gone completely, whether it’s possession/ partial possession/ a veiled DID etc. I do not know, just it is real and I have seen it in from 2 people.

Or alternatively, whether I am seeing into spiritual realm rather than seeing a person being influenced/ controlled by a spiritual entity. That’s the alternative when we consider whether it’s a delusion on my part.

[capgras2019]

I’m just reading a thread on reddit from some poor guy who had a girlfriend and one day he no longer recognised her - face, body, voice etc, she freaked out, they got a police sketch artist to sketch the girl he remembered and it turns out it was her dead sister.

It could just be that the brain has recognised both people (as people he knew) but the connections/outputs just come to the wrong conclusion about who they were. Maybe the outputs of the neurons/dendrites (eg. those that should have detected those people) just didn’t work correctly for some reason and gave the wrong outputs.

So the person could just have mis-remembered the person and the people he knew probably hadn’t changed.

It could just be that the brain has recognised both people (as people he knew) but the connections/outputs just come to the wrong conclusion about who they were. Maybe the outputs of the neurons/dendrites (eg. those that should have detected those people) just didn’t work correctly for some reason and gave the wrong outputs.

So the person could just have mis-remembered the person and the person probably hadn’t changed.

Its the weirdest one I’ve come across, although there is potentially an exact parallel if one considered the instance that I am reporting myself as being two physically separate entities. I don’t believe the guy in that thread even knew of the dead sister, certainly didn’t know her, which is why it is so odd.

In the studies of DID, the scans of brain activity show completely different brain activity. function between alters - hence the capacity for one alter to be blind and other alters to have full vision etc - so there are some very odd phenomena with regard to brain function and relationship to identity/ consciousness.